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[Fenxis 99]

Why is the electoral college?

 

In theory to force candidates to go to every state otherwise everyone would hit up just the Northeast and California and ignore the rest. Also remember that the US is a Republic so it represents the state's selection.

[Fenxis 99]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-a-difference-2-percentage-points-makes/

 

So here’s another question. What would have happened if just 1 out of every 100 voters shifted from Trump to Clinton? That would have produced a net shift of 2 percentage points in Clinton’s direction. And instead of the map you see above, we’d have wound up with this result (Clinton winning with 307).

 

I think saw somewhere else that Trump got the same # of votes that Romney did last election. It's the much vaulted Clinton infrastructure that could only get 55% voter turnout that killed them.

[Untilted 158]

And the most stomach churning moment from last night was Hannity talking to Meghan Kelly and telling her that, when Comey reopened the email investigation he said he told Donald 'we are going to win'. We. This is a journalist. WE?..... proper journalism is dead and gone.

 

Nobody has ever mistaken Hannity as a journalist. So are many other agenda filled commentators and pundits. Just as bad or maybe even worse IMO is Donna Brazile

[Fenxis 99]

Before and after presidency:

 

[digitalmonkey 929]

Why are people protesting? I'm all for protests, but what is their point? What do they hope to achieve?

[gruven 530]

https://twitter.com/ijaileene/status/796450089149595648

[gruven 530]

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1350FY?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

[gruven 530]

A sports world take.

http://www.sportsnet.ca/basketball/nba/donald-trump-presidency-complicates-intersection-sports-politics/

[gruven 530]

One more: alarm bells should be ringing.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN1351RJ?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=Social

[serge 904]

I love Don Cherry

[serge 904]

Why are people protesting? I'm all for protests, but what is their point? What do they hope to achieve?

 

it makes no sense. There is a process. It's a democracy. They lost. Live with the result. I would be curious to see how many of those people on the street actually voted.

[serge 904]

Why is the electoral college?

 

It's a great question. I think this election is the perfect example. The votes that Hillary got came from major urban centers like LA, Chicago , NYC,Miami and Detroit. While generally the suburbs, rust belt voted for Trump. This is a generalization however it's fairly accurate.

 

A candidate has to have support from the state level and just not get votes from certain large States like California, New York, Florida and Texas.

 

Even in California if you look at the map , the coast is all Blue but inland (farming) is all red. It's a very archaic yet accurate form of democracy IMO.

 

 

[Zach6668 513]

 

 

It's a great question. I think this election is the perfect example. The votes that Hillary got came from major urban centers like LA, Chicago , NYC,Miami and Detroit. While generally the suburbs, rust belt voted for Trump. This is a generalization however it's fairly accurate.

 

A candidate has to have support from the state level and just not get votes from certain large States like California, New York, Florida and Texas.

 

Even in California if you look at the map , the coast is all Blue but inland (farming) is all red. It's a very archaic yet accurate form of democracy IMO.

 

Serge, you are too much.

 

What exactly makes it accurate? What makes it fair? How is it fair if the candidate that wins the Presidency didn't receive the most votes from the citizens he is charged to lead?

[FCP Bob 1,312]

2 reasons they put in the EC

 

1. States rights. Meaning they want to have all States matter

2. The founders viewed it as a sober second chamber that would be able to override the election if the public voted in a demagogue or other totally unacceptable candidate. They didn't trust the "rabble" to make the right decisions.

[Dubey 1,035]

Don Cherry is an idiot.

[Dubey 1,035]

Also, can you imagine if Trump had won the popular vote and lost the electoral college? Serge would be singing a different tune.

[serge 904]

 

 

Serge, you are too much.

 

What exactly makes it accurate? What makes it fair? How is it fair if the candidate that wins the Presidency didn't receive the most votes from the citizens he is charged to lead?

 

Because California has 36 million people. If you run on a platform that says all Californians will get $2000 when I'm President , you will win the election.

 

This is an extremely simplified answer obviously.

[Fenxis 99]

it makes no sense. There is a process. It's a democracy. They lost. Live with the result. I would be curious to see how many of those people on the street actually voted.

 

And if Clinton had won we would have the RWN promising rebellion because he's "going to take away our guns" and you had Trump said repeatedly that he wouldn't accept the result so **** off. Are you so twisted and senile you can't even remember back two months?

 

Though to be fair most of these lefties would have protested against Clinton at some point to make sure she upheld her side of the deal with Sanders.

[Dubey 1,035]

 

 

Because California is a blue state

 

is what you meant.

[Fenxis 99]

How is it fair if the candidate that wins the Presidency didn't receive the most votes from the citizens he is charged to lead?

 

They could keep the EC but allocate those votes proportionally; best of both worlds. You keep state power blocks but every vote maters.

 

Note that under this system there's no guarantee that Trump wouldn't have won... the democrats control California pretty much at every level so a lot of Republicans don't even bother to vote. But I guess that's true of Texas and the rest of Jesusland.

[serge 904]

Also, can you imagine if Trump had won the popular vote and lost the electoral college? Serge would be singing a different tune.

 

Lol. Take it up with the founding fathers. I didn't make the rules

[Dubey 1,035]

Serge, it's baffling to me how quickly you have adopted pretty much every republican ideal. And don't tell me you've always felt this way, because you certainly didn't learn them growing up in Toronto.

[Zach6668 513]

 

 

Because California has 36 million people. If you run on a platform that says all Californians will get $2000 when I'm President , you will win the election.

 

This is an extremely simplified answer obviously.

 

So? They still count as humans and each of their votes should be worth the same as each other's vote regardless of their motivations for voting. And how is that any different than the pandering all politicians do to any other group of 36 million people?

[serge 904]

 

 

And if Clinton had won we would have the RWN promising rebellion because he's "going to take away our guns" and you had Trump said repeatedly that he wouldn't accept the result so **** off. Are you so twisted and senile you can't even remember back two months?

 

Though to be fair most of these leftist would have protested against Clinton to make sure she upheld her side of the deal with Sanders.

Hmm. Thanks for telling me to **** off. I will

[gruven 530]

The electoral college was in part to ensure that all states got attention from presidential candidates and prevented them from campaigning only in populous states. This allowed voter in small and remote states to hear the platforms and policies of each candidate. In this age of information it's a moot point. Every word a candidate utters is instantly available.