Essay's Top Ten

[Theraflu 1,035]

Am I personally offended? No. But the way a lot of the racism is handled is on the offensive/objectionable side of the line. From an EW review that just popped up on the first page of results: ""Is [Quentin Tarantino's] Django attacking the cruelty [of slavery] or reveling in it?" 

I think he's reveling in it, and it feels similar to his shitty racist Pulp character. 

[Theraflu 1,035]

5 hours ago, brvheart said:

 

Everyone loves True Romance.  I didn't like and it wasn't memorable to me.  I guess I need to rewatch it since it's been like 25 years since I've seen it.

Probably been 15 years for me, the one time I saw it, and I didn't hold it in any special place. Fits in well with the Tarantino discussion though. Maybe we could all give it a little rewatch. 

[hank213 1,823]

Do it.

[SuitedAces21 2,722]

14 hours ago, Theraflu said:

Am I personally offended? No. But the way a lot of the racism is handled is on the offensive/objectionable side of the line. From an EW review that just popped up on the first page of results: ""Is [Quentin Tarantino's] Django attacking the cruelty [of slavery] or reveling in it?" 

I think he's reveling in it, and it feels similar to his shitty racist Pulp character. 

like i said, soft. it's a revenge fantasy, just enjoy django killing bad people.  

[Theraflu 1,035]

That's why Inglorious is much too low on your list! It does it so much better.

[Essay21 2,385]

I like inglorious, I just don’t love it like I love django. Jamie fox is amazing. And Leo. And Sam jackson 
 

brad Pitt isn’t great in inglorious If you were to ask me. Not like he was in once upon a time. 

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

True Romance has so many highs.  Gary Oldman scene, Dennis Hopper/Christopher Walken scene, Alabama vs Tony Soprano, The movie producer in the hotel

 

 

the Rewatchables has great episode on True Romance

 

and two on Heat.   
 

essay, do you listed to The Rewatchables?  I know Theraflu must.   Hank probably needs to.  Such a great podcast if you like the movie 

 

they just did Crimson Tide, a personal favorite.   I’d determined that I love Tony Scott so much.  Maybe as much as Tarantino, although Tarantino writes his stuff. 

[Theraflu 1,035]

I listen to a few Rewatchables, pick and choose. I really don't have any interest in Simmons, at all. I listen to a lot more Big Picture, even if Dobbins is grating. 

[Ron_Mexico 4,219]

What’s the issue with Simmons?    Besides him mispronouncing tons of words, he’s alright. 
 

I’ve come back around on him once I got past him not really writing columns that I liked anymore.  I take his content a la carte now and enjoy him again.  
 

I have become a big Russillo fan. That dude cracks me up.  Loved The Town Rewatchables 

[Theraflu 1,035]

It's been the same shtick for....25 years? I can't listen to him just combine random sports and pop culture moments that don't make sense. Feels like a parody of himself at times.

[Essay21 2,385]

I listen to Most every Rewatchables, love Bill Simmons even if he is turning into a bit of SJW in his old, rich guilt induced days. Russilo is amazing though. My favorite Rewatchables are the town and wolf of Wall Street. Russilo is just the best. I can’t think of an opinion he’s had where I was in serious disagreement. 
 

unlike simmons who was touting corona as the new Black Death and just being completely ridiculous with his comments. 

[Theraflu 1,035]

I know right, only 90k Americans are dead so far. That's a drop in the bucket!

[brvheart 1,752]

20 hours ago, Ron_Mexico said:

True Romance has so many highs.  Gary Oldman scene, Dennis Hopper/Christopher Walken scene, Alabama vs Tony Soprano, The movie producer in the hotel

 

 

the Rewatchables has great episode on True Romance

 

and two on Heat.   
 

essay, do you listed to The Rewatchables?  I know Theraflu must.   Hank probably needs to.  Such a great podcast if you like the movie 

 

they just did Crimson Tide, a personal favorite.   I’d determined that I love Tony Scott so much.  Maybe as much as Tarantino, although Tarantino writes his stuff. 

For years and years I told people that my favorite director was a tie between Tony Scott and Michael Mann.

[brvheart 1,752]

1 hour ago, Theraflu said:

I know right, only 90k Americans are dead so far. That's a drop in the bucket!

I mean,  have you seen the numbers?  Pretty weaksauce for a pandemic.

Latest data from Pennsylvania:

Pennsylvania has more coronavirus deaths over age 95 than under age 60. 
Pennsylvania has more coronavirus deaths over 85 than under 80. 
 

Just like you and everyone else that accepts seasonal flu and traffic deaths every year, there is absolutely a tipping point where 90k is "only", and it's not worth the total destruction of the economy and the middle class's financial well-being for years, if not decades in some cases.  (I'm thinking about all the small businesses being destroyed)

Every single one of us drives every day even though 40000 Americans die every year in traffic deaths. 

I feel like the media is driving a narrative that choosing to care WAY more about coronavirus than traffic deaths + seasonal flu is somehow more noble that thinking that all of them are bad, but that life needs to go on.  I object to that characterization.

I can be sad for the deaths, and try to mitigate it as much as possible, but this pandemic isn't dangerous at all for anyone under 60 and it should be over at this point.

[SuitedAces21 2,722]

2 hours ago, Theraflu said:

I know right, only 90k Americans are dead so far. That's a drop in the bucket!

it kind of is. perhaps you weep constantly, but people are dying by the millions every year. if we'd done better with nursing homes this thing would be a big nothing burger. time to get america back to normal. 

[Theraflu 1,035]

There's 90 thousand deaths WITH shutting down the country for two months. How can you say it "should be over" if all the measures that were taken were not sufficient? I don't understand just willingly giving up your parents and grandparents. Switching your argument from "the flu kills 40k a year, what's the big deal" to "well it's only 90k!" is ****ing stupid. 

Waving the big giant ECONOMY flag is maddening. There is unlimited money. The politicians don't care about you, or your business. They can save whatever they want. 

[brvheart 1,752]

 

39 minutes ago, Theraflu said:

There's 90 thousand deaths WITH shutting down the country for two months. How can you say it "should be over" if all the measures that were taken were not sufficient?

 

Because statistically nobody under 60 has died.  That means that the shutdown did almost nothing.

 

Also, I'm not giving up anyone.  I think people over 60 should no-contact self-isolate.  So many nursing homes will be sued after this is over.

[Essay21 2,385]

There is unlimited money, the rallying cry of the socialist before the destruction of society. 
 

the shut down was a gross overreaction. That was obvious 30-45 days ago. The hospitals never got overwhelmed and most deaths are for people over 80 and in nursing homes. If you don’t see that you’re hatred for trump is being fueled by a willing to deceive media. All we had to do was extreme safety at all nursing homes and everyone else go about your business and be vigilant. But oh well, never let a good crisis go to waste.  

[Theraflu 1,035]

Baffling.

 

[Essay21 2,385]

Right, you have no facts, you have only WHY DO YOU WANT TO KILL GRANDMA

[Theraflu 1,035]

So to be clear, the only way that the measures taken would have been acceptable were if the hospitals were overrun, the exact thing that the measures were trying to prevent? In your mind, the fact that significant steps were taken, and hospitals weren't overrun, means those steps were unnecessary? 

And just so we're clear, you think 95% of the world's leaders who took similar precautions overreacted, yes? Your vote was for the Swedish model? 

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/05/20/sweden-becomes-country-highest-coronavirus-death-rate-per-capita/

 

 

[Essay21 2,385]

The hospitals in America were nowhere near overrun, so a total lockdown was not necessary. Targeted measures would have been more effective, the data is clear on that. Nursing homes will account for almost 50% of deaths. 
 

I believe groupthink doesn’t prove something correct.  I didn’t need to shelter at home, and neither did you. But the government couldn’t wait to blow its load and control everything. 
 

6 deaths per million isn’t something worth destroying the worlds economy. Not to mention the countless people who will die over the next few years from the lack of preventive screenings for cancer over these months. Lives lost are lives lost, and given the demographics of the lives lost to Corona the measures were too extreme. 
 

if New York wasn’t run by morons tens of thousands of people would still be alive. But hey, when you can force a nursing home, the most likely pace for a virus to kill a lot of people, to take elderly People  infected with the virus, you gotta do it. And you def need to close businesses nationwide, in places with no known similarities to New York, as well. All good stuff. 
 

it was a very difficult situation in early March, we didn’t quite know what we were dealing with. But within 21 days of that it should have been clear the threat was not close down the world serious and we should have returned to normal in stages much sooner.  But politics and hatred of trump got in the way. 
 

luckily for all of us capitalism and The American way of life will get us back on track, despite the insane stupidity of our elected officials and collective masses. Some people will get left behind, but some people always do. And most people will continue to have better lives and more freedom than ever before - just so long as Democrats never have all three branches or government again and fvck it all up.

[Essay21 2,385]

Should we collect all the articles from the liberal media about how Georgia and Florida were going to have blood on their hands for reopening only to see nothing happen? I mean life has to go on here folks. Stay inside forever if you want, but the rest of us are back at it in the land of the free and the home of some brave. 

[brvheart 1,752]

16 hours ago, Essay21 said:

6 deaths per million isn’t something worth destroying the worlds economy.

I didn't even realize that was the big gottem from Thera's article.  Holy crap that is so horrible.  I can't believe we destroyed the economy for that.

 

One nice takeaway is that we can speed up the destruction of some of these big box brick-N-mortars that have been trying to hang on for the last few years. 

[Theraflu 1,035]

Leveraged buyouts have been taking care of that for years. Billionaires are $400 billion since the pandemic started. Amazon, Target, Walmart are all cruising along.