Clash Of Clans - Brags, Questions, Threats And Anything Else!

[mrdannyg 274]

When you spend more in troops than you gain in loot.

 

Gotcha. I can't think of any reason that someone would want to spend more in loot than they gain AND not want trophies, except in weirdly exceptional situations that wouldn't apply (like sub-200 trophy farming). The only thing I can think of that I have done or seen is if I have a war army ready to go, and for some reason can't use it, then I'll just attack someone with a bunch of loot even if my army may have cost more since I have to use it somehow. But there's no reason for that to be any more than the exception.

 

Best explanation is that they're trying to win trophies and failing, or not getting as much loot as they expect! You still leaving all your tombstones around?

[gruven 530]

Gotcha. I can't think of any reason that someone would want to spend more in loot than they gain AND not want trophies, except in weirdly exceptional situations that wouldn't apply (like sub-200 trophy farming). The only thing I can think of that I have done or seen is if I have a war army ready to go, and for some reason can't use it, then I'll just attack someone with a bunch of loot even if my army may have cost more since I have to use it somehow. But there's no reason for that to be any more than the exception.

 

Best explanation is that they're trying to win trophies and failing, or not getting as much loot as they expect! You still leaving all your tombstones around?

It's so bizarre. I've gone from 800 trophies to over 2000, and most of it comes from failed attacks that get around 80-100K in loot, and gives me 30 trophies. I've actually gone backwards in loot totals, since these guys somehow seem to be able to get more loot than you would think is available. Anyway, it's neither here nor there. Just wanted to get to crystal league, and I've done it, so now I'll probably drop trophies to build loot.

 

edit: here's an example that just happened. I got attacked by a guy with:

2 lvl 2 golems/2 pekkas/7 WBs/21 lvl 5 wiz/lvl 4 heal spell/2 lvl 4 rage spells PLUS clan castle troops and heroes

He got: 99K in gold, 72K in elix, 938 DE and lost trophies doing it.

[MapleLeafs 142]

Someone once said remember that a lot of kids play this game, who have no real appreciation for a good raid of boss loot. They just like unleashing an army of golems and dragons and pekkas and seeing what destruction they can cause.

 

Another reason could be people practicing for war attacks.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

Going to need you to explain "pyrrhic wins". Not all of us are smarter than everyone else in Canada other than cheese salesmen.

 

Pyrrius of Epirius was a brilliant (nominally) Greek General, probably the best general in the classical world, between Alexander and Hannibal/Scipio Africanus. He had dreams of being the next Alexander, and traveled all over the greek world, as a sort of General for Hire. Why something is a Pyrrhic Victory, is that he fought for Magna Graecia (Now Southern Italy, at the time controlled by Greeks, and at war with Rome), and he had many brilliant, hard fought and costly victories over the Romans, often when he was out numbered. However, Rome had a seemingly boundless supply of man power and resources, and Pyrrius only had a limited amount of supplys/troops, so even though he never lost a battle to the romans, he lost the war out of attrition.

[mrdannyg 274]

It's so bizarre. I've gone from 800 trophies to over 2000, and most of it comes from failed attacks that get around 80-100K in loot, and gives me 30 trophies. I've actually gone backwards in loot totals, since these guys somehow seem to be able to get more loot than you would think is available. Anyway, it's neither here nor there. Just wanted to get to crystal league, and I've done it, so now I'll probably drop trophies to build loot.

 

edit: here's an example that just happened. I got attacked by a guy with:

2 lvl 2 golems/2 pekkas/7 WBs/21 lvl 5 wiz/lvl 4 heal spell/2 lvl 4 rage spells PLUS clan castle troops and heroes

He got: 99K in gold, 72K in elix, 938 DE and lost trophies doing it.

 

That's a classic GoWiPe army, so it may be someone practicing for war, or who created a war army and didn't use it, or who created a big-time army looking for big-time loot, and either underestimated what they could get from you, didn't plan on using their spells, or got bored and wanted to get rid of the army so they could go back to barching!

 

So the short answer is, I really don't know, other than it probably didn't go as planned. And sometimes all they want is dark elixir...golems cost 450 each so they didn't really gain anything there, but I've seen people spend 250k on an army just to get 500 or 1000 DE.

 

Not really sure what you mean by "get more loot than what you think is available."

 

Pyrrius of Epirius was a brilliant (nominally) Greek General, probably the best general in the classical world, between Alexander and Hannibal/Scipio Africanus. He had dreams of being the next Alexander, and traveled all over the greek world, as a sort of General for Hire. Why something is a Pyrrhic Victory, is that he fought for Magna Graecia (Now Southern Italy, at the time controlled by Greeks, and at war with Rome), and he had many brilliant, hard fought and costly victories over the Romans, often when he was out numbered. However, Rome had a seemingly boundless supply of man power and resources, and Pyrrius only had a limited amount of supplys/troops, so even though he never lost a battle to the romans, he lost the war out of attrition.

 

Thanks! Now I'm going to use this term all the time (it is often relevant in my world, where we do a crap-ton of work to get something that isn't worth a fraction of the time spent). I'm not so comfortable about my pronunciation of Pyrrius of Epirius, but I'm guessing my coworkers ain't either.

 

Have you ever considered becoming a cheese salesman?

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

 

Have you ever considered becoming a cheese salesman?

 

Every. Single. Day.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

Also, it's like "Peer-Russ of Ep-Pie-rus", at least that's how I pronounce it

[serge 904]

New update!!

 

Air sweeper seems cool

 

Unadvertised in news is that we can upgrade walls with elixir again.

 

 

[mrdannyg 274]

New update!!

 

Air sweeper seems cool

 

Unadvertised in news is that we can upgrade walls with elixir again.

 

Seems cool. Annoying to have to redesign stuff, but they needed to do something with every single high-level attack being some version of lavaloon, and this seems like a clever solution.

 

According to some stuff on the forum, the change to elixir walls seems to have been an accident, and they'll probably get rid of it soon.

 

Nothing really useful or good for me personally in the update (other than elixir walls) but no big deal.

[serge 904]

So I pushed and pushed trophies last few days and now at Crystal..Love the 35000 bonus...Plus the 100 dark every raid.

[mrdannyg 274]

So I pushed and pushed trophies last few days and now at Crystal..Love the 35000 bonus...Plus the 100 dark every raid.

 

That's cool. I've thought about doing a trophy push but it seems kind of annoying too. With the new way they are doing matchups (your town hall is a big factor), it is going to make trophy pushing a ton easier.

[serge 904]

That's cool. I've thought about doing a trophy push but it seems kind of annoying too. With the new way they are doing matchups (your town hall is a big factor), it is going to make trophy pushing a ton easier.

 

If you have an hour straight where you can play, its not that hard to get a ton of trophies..

 

I just attack all the unprotected town halls...Takes literally no army just use the BK or Archer Queen. Sometimes the idiots protect the town hall with hidden defences..But even then, 30-40 barbs/archers do the trick.

 

What I found at this level of trophies is that as soon as I log off , I get attacked ...lower trophies I can go hours without getting attacked..

[mrdannyg 274]

If you have an hour straight where you can play, its not that hard to get a ton of trophies..

 

I just attack all the unprotected town halls...Takes literally no army just use the BK or Archer Queen. Sometimes the idiots protect the town hall with hidden defences..But even then, 30-40 barbs/archers do the trick.

 

What I found at this level of trophies is that as soon as I log off , I get attacked ...lower trophies I can go hours without getting attacked..

 

Do you have your town hall outside?

[serge 904]

Do you have your town hall outside?

 

I do..I know its a stupid way to push trophies...I guess thats why I get attacked..But I hate losing loot...Outside still allows me to save on loot

[gruven 530]

Whats crazy is that once you hit Crystal, it becomes like a balloon floating away. You actually have to manage your trophies to keep them down. Every time you log off, you will get attacked with a minute or two, but you may get hit 2X for +39 and then once for -9. I went from Crystal III to Crystal I without attacking anyone!!

[serge 904]

Anyone else play Hearthstone?

 

It's amazing

[Dubey 1,035]

Nope is that the card game or whatever?

 

 

 

 

Started my lvl6 balloon upgrade.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

yeah, a magic-style card game, but based on The Warcraft universe. I played it for a bit on the desktop, but I lost interest. I don't like collectible type games, and I really don't like digital collectibles.

[serge 904]

For those of you that dont play Hearthstone, Ill recommend dont try it..Because you will get addicted.

 

Certain famous poker player who is also in the AHL, has been constantly discussing the game and apparently he has got the bug..

 

Lot of poker players are also into it..Its highly addictive..

[Swacker Dave 89]

I'm certainly not near your guys' levels but this game is really starting to piss me off...

 

I can't do any farming 'cause as soon as I log off... or even if my phone goes to sleep I get attacked for everything I have farmed... 3x in a row I get dinged for a 200K, 200K, 700 DE raid! I can't make any progress. I don't understand what I am doing wrong.... just trying to get 20K DE to upgrade my BK to LV5 seems impossible.

 

Seriously thinking of packing it it... just a time waster... not fun anymore.

[ajs510 122]

There definitely comes a point where you either have to start spending money or stop playing because it gets too frustrating...sounds like you may have reached it. I stopped doing anything other than my compulsory war attacks for months while I was working on building up my walls and defenses to make my base less of a soft target, but I still get picked at every time I log off...just the way it is.

[mrdannyg 274]

I'm certainly not near your guys' levels but this game is really starting to piss me off...

 

I can't do any farming 'cause as soon as I log off... or even if my phone goes to sleep I get attacked for everything I have farmed... 3x in a row I get dinged for a 200K, 200K, 700 DE raid! I can't make any progress. I don't understand what I am doing wrong.... just trying to get 20K DE to upgrade my BK to LV5 seems impossible.

 

Seriously thinking of packing it it... just a time waster... not fun anymore.

 

TH8 is a tricky level. Every level is geared towards offense or defense, and the defense ones are, ironically, tricky to defend, since there's so much offense gained at the level above (th9 gets 20 more troops, an extra hero, an extra spell and a big jump in troop quality) and it takes months before you are actually maxed at your defense. And in the meantime, you have lots in the middle of upgrading!

 

Still, if you are getting hit like that all the time, there is probably room for improvement. Try a different (lower) trophy level, a different base layout. If you aren't already, put your TH outside. With a decent base, TH outside (totally outside, not just halfway) and keeping yourself between about 1100-1500 trophies, you shouldn't be getting hit that hard more than every other day or so. And while it stinks to do get hit, I always try to remember that 200k/200k/700 is really only a couple raids usually, so not too bad to make up.

 

There definitely comes a point where you either have to start spending money or stop playing because it gets too frustrating...sounds like you may have reached it. I stopped doing anything other than my compulsory war attacks for months while I was working on building up my walls and defenses to make my base less of a soft target, but I still get picked at every time I log off...just the way it is.

 

I don't know about this - I found even at th9 it was still fun and I wasn't getting hit like crazy. In fact, until the new update meant that I was getting viewed by th10s all the time, I don't think I had an attack where I lost more than one storage in most weeks. Got my DE zapped every so often, but not as often as I did it to others lol. I see a lot of people get bored at TH10, but in the last few clans I've been on, lots of people still having fun maxing out at th9 without going too nuts on gems. Depends on your expectations somewhat, and of course if you aren't raiding at least a bit most days, it can be hard to build more than you lose.

 

I got frustrated at th9 because I had maxed out my defense, but my troops were behind. And I joined a hardcore clan where if you were th9 and couldn't 3-star a max th9, you were considered a fail, so there was a lot of frustration and pressure. In a better clan now with more my th9 and th7 account, where people actually have fun and we even lose occasionally and no one goes nuts, and finding both accounts fun again.

[serge 904]

This game is difficult when you don't attack regularly. Last week or so haven't played much and 8000 dark goes poof. Along with 300 trophies and millions of elixir and gold

[mrdannyg 274]

This game is difficult when you don't attack regularly. Last week or so haven't played much and 8000 dark goes poof. Along with 300 trophies and millions of elixir and gold

 

I have found TH9 to be really demanding about that. With my new TH7 (going to TH8!) account, it is no big deal. There's lots of tiny upgrades to do to keep your builders busy, and if you don't have a ton of loot, by the time the percentages and loot penalties are applied, it is barely enough to steal. Plus, you're not as dangerous, so people will pop your TH.

 

At TH9 if you want to have enough in your storages to upgrade anything, then you have 300k plus gold to steal. It's pretty nuts. And while I found a ton of dead bases last week, in general raiding is really tough and slow-going when you're only seeing TH8+.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

Upgraded my last wall piece, so now I'm pushing to the TH9 upgrade. I'm going to farm while it does, and buy the first round of TH9 upgrades, but then I think I'm going to take a break for a while from the game, it's become such a grind.