True Detective

[Theraflu 1,035]

Half way to the EGOT

[timwakefield 68]

I know that it wasn't a pure tracking shot, in that they digitally edited it to seem like there was no cuts, when there actually were. But the effect is spectacular.

 

I found a video showing some of how they did it. Pretty amazing. I wish they told us the whole story cuz like you said it clearly must be multiple shots stitched together - the part at the very end of the shot where the camera exits the car and then shows the car, and it's a normal car, is clearly impossible to be the same shot. But like you said, the effect is spectacular, and I don't think it detracts from it that it wasn't actually done in one shot.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBfsJ7K1VNk

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

I don't think it detracts from it that it wasn't actually done in one shot.

 

 

 

Oh, I wasn't saying that at all. In fact, I think it's spectacular that they made it look like it was one shot when it wasn't.

[YonYonson 156]

they cheated and it ruins the shot for me.

[timwakefield 68]

Oh, I wasn't saying that at all. In fact, I think it's spectacular that they made it look like it was one shot when it wasn't.

 

Yeah yeah I was agreeing with you. The shot itself is of course incredible but the stitching is also incredible - there's no obvious spot where I can see where it was done, even when I look for it.

 

Apparently they did build in a potential cut in the True Detective shot - where the camera pans up to the helicopter was a purposeful potential hidden cut, but they didn't need it, it was actually all one shot.

[FCP Bob 1,321]

holy shit

[YonYonson 156]

you knew it had to be deeper than reggie ladoux. but this thing is gonna all the way to the top. also seems clear that WH's daughter was exposed to some kind of cult sex ritual as a kid. probably by her grandfather. that is connected to the murders somehow as well.

 

after MM figures it all out the scope of the conspiracy forces him out of the police force. so he drops off the map but keeps investigating. he may or may not have killed Tuttle in 2010. but either way MM was on to him and his cult.

[timwakefield 68]

Wait, did I miss Tuttle's 2010 murder?

 

 

Mouzone and his partner finally got interesting.

[hank213 1,823]

Wait, did I miss Tuttle's 2010 murder?

 

 

Mouzone and his partner finally got interesting.

 

no, this was the first they referenced tuttle's death by "mixed medications."

 

some interesting reading if you're of a mind:

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/02/16/true-detective-episode-5-review-the-secret-fate-of-all-life-is-the-best-episode-yet.html

 

http://io9.com/the-one-literary-reference-you-must-know-to-appreciate-1523076497

[YonYonson 156]

the article about the metaphysical nature of the show and the speech about living your life over and over again the same way as a metaphor for the tv show and the characters we're actually watching BLEW MY FVCKING MIND.

[hank213 1,823]

the article about the metaphysical nature of the show and the speech about living your life over and over again the same way as a metaphor for the tv show and the characters we're actually watching BLEW MY FVCKING MIND.

 

here's a mind bender for ya.

 

the scene where Marty is sitting at the bar in the strip club and he starts threatening the bartender and he says "Why do you make me say this shit?" That bartender is the writer of the show, so he really is making Woody say that shit. i guess there are lot's of little bits where they aren't necessarily breaking the 4th wall, but they are rubbing up against and stretching the membrane of the 4th wall.

 

I really love that the writer/showrunner is approaching the series with this thought in mind: "...a genre doesn’t ever have to be limited by what’s been done before." Audacious but I'll be damned if he isn't pulling it off beautifully.

[timwakefield 68]

 

 

Also, The King In Yellow (via Hank's link) is available for free Kindle download from Amazon.

 

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00847UYWA/?_encoding=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&force-full-site=1&linkCode=ur2&tag=film-20

[hank213 1,823]

 

 

Also, The King In Yellow (via Hank's link) is available for free Kindle download from Amazon.

 

http://www.amazon.co...ur2&tag=film-20

 

in another thread, in another forum...there is a lot of speculation that Marty (as well as other L.E.O.s) is somehow involved with a cult that is responsible for the murders. the symbol in that picture (among a few others). the graphic sexual pictures the daughter has drawn. Marty straight up executing LeDoux before he could spill too many beans. Cohle tells marty about the suspect, they make arrangements to go see him but he receives a mysterious phone call and offs himself before Cohle can do more interrogation. all very coincidental but sinister.

[mrfritz 904]

and remember when marty went to get his kids for dinner and they were playing with those dolls on the floor in their bedroom. it looked like they were acting out a ritual or somethin.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

It looked like they were acting out a gang bang.

[mrfritz 904]

that's the word i was looking for: gang bang

[hank213 1,823]

then flash forward to high school and she's getting double teamed in a truck. that kind of hyper-sexualization is a key indicator of sexual abuse at a young age.

 

 

 

or so i hear.

[BigDMcGee 3,355]

Sounds like we could be getting some hot Monarch Mind control action coming up http://conspiracy.wikia.com/wiki/Monarch_Mind_Control

[timwakefield 68]

I think I'll be pretty disappointed if it turns out that Woody (or MM, but more likely Woody) was a bad guy all along - not necessarily the killer but at least complicit or something. This show seems a lot smarter than to have a Shocking Twist! like that. It seems very likely that the daughter is tied to all of this somehow though, otherwise it's just a character-building tangent and with only 3 episodes to go there seems little point in that. In fact the whole subplot with Woody's marital problems is pretty unnecessary to the story unless it eventually ties in to the case.

 

 

Also, what do we think MM has in his storage unit?

[hank213 1,823]

I think I'll be pretty disappointed if it turns out that Woody (or MM, but more likely Woody) was a bad guy all along - not necessarily the killer but at least complicit or something. This show seems a lot smarter than to have a Shocking Twist! like that. It seems very likely that the daughter is tied to all of this somehow though, otherwise it's just a character-building tangent and with only 3 episodes to go there seems little point in that.

 

 

Also, what do we think MM has in his storage unit?

 

yeah i don't think any of those angles will play out. i think it is used to make the viewer aware it is primarily Cohle's nihilistic lens we're viewing the story through.

 

i think he has a lot of evidence from the school building and various other investigative materials. i think he was off the grid from 2002-2008(?) doing investigative work.

 

or

 

absolutely nothing but a small mirror on the wall.

[timwakefield 68]

How did he end up investigating the school building in the first place? I forget what its significance is.

 

I really need to rewatch the whole series so far before seeing the last 3 episodes.

[hank213 1,823]

it was where one of the vics (i can't remember if it was dora or the drowned chick) went to school. they went there and were interviewing the grounds keeper when marty got the radio call about ledoux and started honking the car horn. also, the school was run by one of Tuttle's organizations. it was there that i figured tuttle was involved somehow. in the first 2-3 eps his name came up at least 3 times:

1) inserted himself in the investigation by pushing for the task force for anti-christian crimes

2) the tent revivalist "came up under" tuttle and studied at tuttle's bible college.

3) tuttle's ministry ran the school where a victim used to attend

 

i'm definitely doing a marathon either before or shortly after season finale.

[timwakefield 68]

One other thing somebody else pointed out that I thought was interesting was that during the interrogation/debriefing MM knew that anything he said after he started drinking would be inadmissible, and that's why he requested the beer. Although that might not have any real significance.

[timwakefield 68]

So I re-watched the first episode and either I didn't watch very closely the first time, or it's just so dense that there are too many connections and minor characters and notable lines to pick up on all of them, or maybe a little of both.

 

One thing I didn't remember was that Tuttle was the cousin of the governor. I also completely missed MM's line to Brother Mouzone near the end: "I bet you wanna hear the hero shot huh? The place we carried the kids out?" Mouzone says, "Eventually, sure." Also maybe some more meta shit, describing it as "the hero shot."

[timwakefield 68]

Ok one more, I just had a thought and maybe it's stupid but maybe the reason MM investigated the missing girl with no apparent connection to the case (where they ended up finding the twig sculpture in the yard at her uncle's house), and the reason he's been investigating it on his own the last decade, is that his daughter didn't really die in a car crash. It obviously would have been widely known among the police if she'd been kidnapped and never found or something so I don't think it's that, but maybe there's a personal connection with her, more than just a surrogate connection.

 

I'm sure others have had that thought.