Vegas Knights 56 Posted April 3, 2014 Author Share Posted April 3, 2014 ...At what point do you stop resting on the little recognition you got and start asking yourself why nobody has been interested in the five years since?...I have received several offers to buy the script, but their offers were too low. And a lot of scripts sit on the shelves for years: From Wiki on Development Hell: Gangs of New York: Martin Scorsese first started trying to get Gangs of New York made in 1978. He finally did so in 2002, and a good deal of Scorsese's DVD commentary on the film is devoted to explaining the arduous process. John Carter spent the longest time in development hell of any film to date. The original production dated as far back as in 1931, placing the film in development hell for 81 years. http://en.wikipedia....evelopment_hell ______ But all it takes is one poker or gambling lover with clout or serious money... Geez, half of Hollywood is into poker. Let's see, Scorsese spent 24 years trying to get his project made. So I have 19 years to go to catch up with him. Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 What don't you like about your new projects that has you focusing on trying to sell this old one so hard instead? Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 Strategic timing, obviously. Haven't you heard? There's a poker boom going on! 3 Link to post Share on other sites
irishguy 14 Posted April 3, 2014 Share Posted April 3, 2014 I have received several offers to buy the script, but their offers were too low. And a lot of scripts sit on the shelves for years: From Wiki on Development Hell: Gangs of New York: Martin Scorsese first started trying to get Gangs of New York made in 1978. He finally did so in 2002, and a good deal of Scorsese's DVD commentary on the film is devoted to explaining the arduous process. John Carter spent the longest time in development hell of any film to date. The original production dated as far back as in 1931, placing the film in development hell for 81 years. http://en.wikipedia....evelopment_hell All it takes is one poker or gambling lover with clout or money. God, half of Hollywood is into poker. Let's see, Scorsese spent 24 years trying to get his project made. So I have 19 years to go to catch up with him. You got legitimate offers and rather than actually seeing your project put on screen you decided to hold out for more? Interesting strat. Absolutely there are examples of screenplays that have been shelved for years generally speaking they were passion projects by established industry people but it's certainly a possibility. You answer everything I say in the most inane run around/avoidance cycle. But since you looped around to it I totally agree that half of Hollywood loves poker and the fact that they aren't actively looking to get involved with poker as a movie concept should say something but if for some reason they do as asked before why would they look to you or your screenplay instead of either writing themselves or sourcing the project to one of the many award winning writers they likely associate with? Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 Absolutely there are examples of screenplays that have been shelved for years generally speaking they were passion projects by established industry people but it's certainly a possibility. Think about how long the Chase crew pined over Medellín, and look how that turned out. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Reasonable Man 6 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 I'm still curious as to why he thinks that he's got a bunch of people out to destroy him. Like that just sounds delusional. Link to post Share on other sites
jmakinmecrzy 1 Posted April 4, 2014 Share Posted April 4, 2014 It's a search and destroy mission, get it right. First the searching, THEN the destroying. Not just wanton destruction for destruction's sake, you gotta seek it out first. You idiots just don't understand mainline America. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigPokerFan 1 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 One wonders if any of the more cynical posters here have written a three time award winning script. I doubt it. Yet one man has done so, and in service of a pastime we all love. What if this award winning piece had been put into production 10 years ago? Quite possibly the game of poker would be more popular then ever. As it stands, with poker's growth in the population centers of Asia (i.e. large Asian countries) there is no limit to the success this film might find. My continuing astonishment that this script has not yet been purchased is only surpassed by my dismay regarding the criticizm brought to its creator. Shame on all of you. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted April 5, 2014 Share Posted April 5, 2014 One wonders if any of the more cynical posters here have written a three time award winning script. I doubt it. Yet one man has done so, and in service of a pastime we all love. What if this award winning piece had been put into production 10 years ago? Quite possibly the game of poker would be more popular then ever. As it stands, with poker's growth in the population centers of Asia (i.e. large Asian countries) there is no limit to the success this film might find. My continuing astonishment that this script has not yet been purchased is only surpassed by my dismay regarding the criticizm brought to its creator. Shame on all of you. Link to post Share on other sites
Reasonable Man 6 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 One wonders if any of the more cynical posters here have written a three time award winning script. I doubt it. Yet one man has done so, and in service of a pastime we all love. What if this award winning piece had been put into production 10 years ago? Quite possibly the game of poker would be more popular then ever. As it stands, with poker's growth in the population centers of Asia (i.e. large Asian countries) there is no limit to the success this film might find. My continuing astonishment that this script has not yet been purchased is only surpassed by my dismay regarding the criticizm brought to its creator. Shame on all of you. This was how I felt at first too, which is why I was interested in investing, but Gerry Burlage's continued behavior of lashing out personally at everyone who criticizes him put me off. That, and the review I quoted a bit ago casts serious doubt on the actual quality of this script. I think that we would all love to see another good poker movie get made, but more and more it seems that this isn't the script, or the author, that is going to give it to us. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
David_Sklansky 1,903 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I think that we would all love to see another good poker movie get made... What was the last one? California Split? Link to post Share on other sites
BigPokerFan 1 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 This was how I felt at first too, which is why I was interested in investing, but Gerry Burlage's continued behavior of lashing out personally at everyone who criticizes him put me off. That, and the review I quoted a bit ago casts serious doubt on the actual quality of this script. I think that we would all love to see another good poker movie get made, but more and more it seems that this isn't the script, or the author, that is going to give it to us. Many creative geniuses are tempermental and difficult to work with. VKs defensiveness may actually be evidence of his gifts. He certainly dosen't deserve to be martyred. Link to post Share on other sites
Reasonable Man 6 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 What was the last one? California Split? I mean I liked Rounders (my avatar probably gives that away though). Link to post Share on other sites
Reasonable Man 6 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Many creative geniuses are tempermental and difficult to work with. VKs defensiveness may actually be evidence of his gifts. He certainly dosen't deserve to be martyred. Well, until said creative geniuses have gotten their foot in the door, they'd be wise to stay humble, or at least to fake humility. You catch more flies with honey and all that. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Rounders wasn't even that great if we're being reasonable... man 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Reasonable Man 6 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 I mean it wasn't Citizen Kane or anything, but it also wasn't an atrocious pile of dung. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,353 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 . He certainly dosen't deserve to be martyred. Well, I think we can all agree on that And rounders is a corny piece of shit, that is only good for it's unintentional humor. California Split is the only good poker movie I've ever seen. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Well, I think we can all agree on that And rounders is a corny piece of shit, that is only good for it's unintentional humor. California Split is the only good poker movie I've ever seen. So you agree with me on Rounders? :) 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Potomophobia 17 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Many creative geniuses are tempermental and difficult to work with. VKs defensiveness may actually be evidence of his gifts. He certainly dosen't deserve to be martyred. I never thought about it that way. VK is really a creative genius. All the haters just cannot see the brilliance that is the man and his script. He and his dream can revive the struggling poker industry; restore respect and fame to poker players around the world; and allow VK to achieve the fame and fortune he so richly deserves. Nah. I'll buy him a case of kleenex though. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Nah. I'll buy him a case of kleenex though. Haters gonna hate Lovers gonna love I don't even want None of the above I'm wanna piss on you Link to post Share on other sites
ChicagoPhil 1 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Where can I see this movie? There sure is quite a bit of chatter about it. I've seen the trailer. Link to post Share on other sites
BigPokerFan 1 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 Well, until said creative geniuses have gotten their foot in the door, they'd be wise to stay humble, or at least to fake humility. You catch more flies with honey and all that. "Foot in the door"? The guy has already won three awards, how far in the door can one foot be? The people here giving him advice have won far fewer awards, likely none. I'm sure if someone with a four time award winning poker screenplay offered advice, he would be happy to listen. Link to post Share on other sites
Reasonable Man 6 Posted April 6, 2014 Share Posted April 6, 2014 "Foot in the door"? The guy has already won three awards, how far in the door can one foot be? The people here giving him advice have won far fewer awards, likely none. I'm sure if someone with a four time award winning poker screenplay offered advice, he would be happy to listen. Look, I'm not here to denigrate this guy, and in fact part of me is still sort of interested in investing in this. He just hasn't acquitted himself very well by the way that he has acted, and I'm still far from sure that this is actually a script worth investing in. I realize your response will be about multiple awards, but I'm still skeptical unless the OP can add some credibility to these awards by pointing to scripts that entered the contests and actually ended up being turned into films. Link to post Share on other sites
Vegas Knights 56 Posted April 6, 2014 Author Share Posted April 6, 2014 One wonders if any of the more cynical posters here have written a three time award winning script. I doubt it. Yet one man has done so, and in service of a pastime we all love. What if this award winning piece had been put into production 10 years ago? Quite possibly the game of poker would be more popular then ever. As it stands, with poker's growth in the population centers of Asia (i.e. large Asian countries) there is no limit to the success this film might find. My continuing astonishment that this script has not yet been purchased is only surpassed by my dismay regarding the criticizm brought to its creator. Shame on all of you. Many creative geniuses are tempermental and difficult to work with. VKs defensiveness may actually be evidence of his gifts. He certainly dosen't deserve to be martyred. "Foot in the door"? The guy has already won three awards, how far in the door can one foot be? The people here giving him advice have won far fewer awards, likely none. I'm sure if someone with a four time award winning poker screenplay offered advice, he would be happy to listen. Hey, PokerFan, thanks for that rare bit of support. Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted April 7, 2014 Share Posted April 7, 2014 Inconceivable. Link to post Share on other sites
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