digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 So Vinny Lecavalier is being bought out...I am confused on how this works now.. Is he a UFA and the Ligthning CANT sign him? Or is he a UFA just like regular UFAs and Lightning have full crack at him? The memo that was sent out I am assuming means that buying out a player and then resigning him for a lower contract is cap circumvention? Also for a player to be bought out, first he has to clear waivers.. Once he clears waivers he'll become an UFA. Tampa can't sign him. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Tampa can't sign him for one year. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Pittsburgh Penguins @penguins 4h Kunitz's deal begins with the 2014-15 season and runs through the 2016-17 campaign. It has an avg. annual value of $3.85 million. #Pens Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 bargain. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Former Tampa GM's Rick Dudley + Brian Lawton both had deals in place in the past to move Lecavalier that ownership ended up nixing. Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Dudley had him going to Toronto for Kaberle, Antropov, Hoglund and either Boyes or a 1st (TB choice). Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Lawton had him going to the Habs for Price, Pacioretty, a 1st and either Subban or McDonaugh. Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h It was after the failed Lecavalier trade that MTL went out and got Gomez Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Further on Lecavalier Jay Feaster offered him to Vancouver for Luongo when the Canucks were having a hard time resigning him. Damian Cristodero @LightningTimes 2h Because he has a no-move clause in his contract, Lecavalier can and will reject going on waivers prior to buyout. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Former Tampa GM's Rick Dudley + Brian Lawton both had deals in place in the past to move Lecavalier that ownership ended up nixing. Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Dudley had him going to Toronto for Kaberle, Antropov, Hoglund and either Boyes or a 1st (TB choice). Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Lawton had him going to the Habs for Price, Pacioretty, a 1st and either Subban or McDonaugh. Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h It was after the failed Lecavalier trade that MTL went out and got Gomez Jeff Marek @JeffMarek 3h Further on Lecavalier Jay Feaster offered him to Vancouver for Luongo when the Canucks were having a hard time resigning him. Damian Cristodero @LightningTimes 2h Because he has a no-move clause in his contract, Lecavalier can and will reject going on waivers prior to buyout. Wow, talk about your fluctuating values (both on Lecavalier and the players involved). You could either have Kaberle, Hoglund, Antropov and a 1st. So...a first, a third-liner, and a rapidly deteriorating rental player. Or, Price, Pacioretty, Subban and a 1st. So...a first, franchise D, solid G (hell of a lot better than who TB has had) and top-6 scorer. Yeah, I'd take that for Vinny. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Kunitz!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wow, talk about your fluctuating values (both on Lecavalier and the players involved). You could either have Kaberle, Hoglund, Antropov and a 1st. So...a first, a third-liner, and a rapidly deteriorating rental player. Or, Price, Pacioretty, Subban and a 1st. So...a first, franchise D, solid G (hell of a lot better than who TB has had) and top-6 scorer. Yeah, I'd take that for Vinny. Both of those trades were rumoured before anyone knew how awesome the montreal package was or how crappy the Leafs package was. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Both of those trades were rumoured before anyone knew how awesome the montreal package was or how crappy the Leafs package was. Well yeah, hence my comment about how crazily volatile player values are. At the time, I'm sure both packages were reasonable. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Kunitz!!! I can't believe Kunitz signed that reasonably after the year he just had. Talk about being right where you want to be and sacrificing a little to be there. Good on him. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Once he clears waivers he'll become an UFA. Tampa can't sign him. For 1 year. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 I can't believe Kunitz signed that reasonably after the year he just had. Talk about being right where you want to be and sacrificing a little to be there. Good on him. http://penguins.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=675492&cmpid=pit-twt-penguins 1 Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 To Calgary Flames David Jones Shane O'Brien To Colorado Avalanche Corey Sarich Alex Tanguay Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 Apparently the Penguins have offered Letang 8yr $54 million Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Apparently the Penguins have offered Letang 8yr $54 million If he doesn't take it show him the door. Well at least trade him and get something. He could be worth more but not to the penguins. When he's on he's a game changer but he has been too inconsistent, especially in the playoffs. When he's off it's noticeable and usually pretty bad for the pens. Could easily see him blowing up somewhere else though. Health is a bit of a concern too. Had he not missed 13 in a row I think he might have won the Norris this year. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 It's being reported as $56 million. It's also being reported he turned it down. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 As a person that isn't a fan of the Pens, I hope they sign that contract. Link to post Share on other sites
dEv~ 19 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yep and... Pierre LeBrun ✔ @Real_ESPNLeBrun Also told that Letang camp counter-offered with a long-term deal which would pay less than $8 M (north of $7.5 M); Pens said too high Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Honestly, if the two sides are that close it'll get done. No point speculating Letang's future any further. They're quibbling over roughly half a mill per season. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 If they can get a better package than they did for Staal, trade him. Link to post Share on other sites
Dubey 1,035 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 I don't want Letang if it means trading away Reilly/Gardiner AND signing Letang to an 8/56 deal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yep and... Pierre LeBrun ✔ @Real_ESPNLeBrun Also told that Letang camp counter-offered with a long-term deal which would pay less than $8 M (north of $7.5 M); Pens said too high With Karlsson with 6 more @ $6.5m cap hit per (starts at 5.5 and goes up to 7.5) you would think that the Penguins would balk much more than that (7m per?) edit: Will DePaoli @TIOPS_DePaoli 12h Can confirm Letang's agent Kent Hughes countered the Penguins 8 year, $54 million offer, asking for 8 years, $62.5 million/ full NTC Pens offered 6.75m per, counter was 7.8m per. I understand that the cap will be probably going way up (after the squeeze next season) and Letang wants to be paid ... he could gamble on a 1-year contract? Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Letang is already signed for next season. Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Letang is already signed for next season. Oops. If he's signed early does the cap hit average out ; or is that why teams are waiting for July _____ to sign. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well, he can sign an extension as of July 5th. His 13/14 cap hit doesn't change. His next contract starts in 14/15 and that'll be the $7 or $8M cap hit. I think Shero wants to lock him up ASAP so that he'll know whether or not to deal him. More value dealing him now than at the deadline or whatever. Link to post Share on other sites
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