Passive? : Aggressive?

[TrueAce13 18]

Again, I don't think calling here is terribe or anything, but it is something that needs to be considered seeing that his sizing is so much.

 

But flatting the flop is just horrible w how much is in the pot, the action, and the board texture

[gadjet 11]

I'm in Vegas now for a couple weeks and only have my phone for internet... So posting slides... I think the play of the games are too hard to describe for context in the forum where play is being compared to a much different standard of table play.

[TrueAce13 18]

Then don't post a strategy hand. It is something that happens a ton; someone posts a hand, people say that they played it poorly, and then defend themselves by saying "well, there are table dynamics and you just don't understand these players." If you truly wanted advice about the hand, you should be more open about it and not trying to defend your play. Flattens the flop is a horrendous play and needs to be stated as such. Your description of the villain makes it where raising/getting it in on the flop is gonna be the best line all the time. So please, don't hide behind the "you don't understand this game" argument.

 

And I don't mean to just point you out,you seem to want to get better and everything but it is a problem that this forum has a lot.

[gadjet 11]

Lol whoa... This isn't a I didn't get the answer I want so I'm taking my bat home kind of thing... I've been trying to be active on this forum and helping in the strategy section.

 

There's been a couple of times at the live game that the good players have laughed at the idea of posting hands from our casino on a strategy board and blowing peoples minds.

 

The reason I posted was for info on the line I took when a player I respect says he'd take a more active line...

 

I did hear that everyone says ship the flop and I've taken it into consideration... But there are other responses here yours included talking about the preflop raise sizing etc...

 

All I'm saying is that my casino game plays insanely different than the american standard games that I've experienced...

 

I appreciate the feedback regardless... If I tell you that I am 100% sure the maniac had a draw on the flop and would y fold if I shipped... But if he missed his draw he would still go all in bluff the river... 100% sure... Does it affect your line? If it doesn't it should...

 

Now I'm not 100% sure... But I was like 90% sure... And when the turn came I was 100% sure he hit.

[Var1ance 1]

Still waiting to hear where you play ?

[akashenk 12]

if it were me, I would probably raise big on the flop.. maybe even all in. I know you're giving up some value, so by the book, this may not be an optimal play. But the problem you have is you are out of position on a draw heavy board. Heads up against a flush draw, or an open-ender, or even some combo draw you are in decent shape, so in that case, it might make sense to slow things down and try to get maximum value out of the hand. But against so many other players, if you are up against more than one draw, then there are lots of cards that can hit the turn and counterfeit you. Even if you aren't up against draws, the turn could be scary and cause you to fold the best hand, which might be the biggest mistake you can make in this situation. Anyhow, if I were in your shoes I'd be happy to end the hand right there on the flop and collect my ~$400. There will be times when you run into a set over set or a flopped straight. You just have to deal with those and move on. I like your logic for checking the flop, but once you get the result you were looking for, put an end to it.