Balloon guy 158 Posted May 14, 2013 Share Posted May 14, 2013 R I hope you realize that just because you post a bunch of false, racist, internet propoganda memes that it doesn't give credence to your contentions, it only further supports mine that conservatives have gone off the deep end. If your rebuttle is posting that Democratic women are ugly, pictures of Obama in muslim garb, and other idiotic propoganda, then well, I think you are supporting my contention. They have gone off the deep end. The deep end? Don't you mean the WH is in deep stuff? 40th anniversary of Watergate is so ironic too. Silly corrupt Chicago politician, the IRS isn't for you to play with. At least Barry will be forced to hide out when he leaves office, instead of getting rich speaking to bankers. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Looks like the IRS scandal ( the one the WH press secretary said Obama found out about yesterday from the newspaper ) was first revealed 3 year ago, and nothing was done by anyone in the administration. And nothing will be done now by this administration unless republicans force them to prosecute people who broke the law. Heard a good point about the IRS agents being twice as likely to be democrat, and how the atmosphere in DC would result in this type of action because this is what liberals do.... They blame republicans for using the government's power to force their agenda ( by pointing to bills passed by votes etc ) while actually using the government's power to punish and control. At the end of the day, RR is the perfect liberal, he makes strawmen about republicans, all while ignoring the front page news on every website and news show in the country pointing to the real culprits of manipulative fascist trickery being committed daily by the democrat party. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 When Charlie Rangel tells you its time to come clean....you went way too far Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 And looky lookywho else is complicit in the IRS attacking tea partiers... As the New York Times reported back in 2010 : With growing scrutiny of the role of tax-exempt groups in political campaigns, Congressional Republicans are pushing back against Democrats by warning about the possible misuse of the Internal Revenue Service to audit conservative groups….And the Republicans are also upset about an I.R.S. review requested by Senator Max Baucus, the Montana Democrat who leads the Finance Committee, into the political activities of tax-exempt groups. Such a review threatens to "chill the legitimate exercise of First Amendment rights," wrote two Republican senators, Orrin G. Hatch of Utah and Jon Kyl of Arizona, in a letter sent to the I.R.S. on Wednesday. ... Democrats dismissed the Republicans' complaints as groundless. And I think it's safe to say the NY Times is left of politico Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 The reality is that everybody is abusing the tax system both from the left and the right when it comes to Political Groups masquerading as social welfare groups and they all should be investigated. From The Economist Republicans and taxes The IRS errs Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,311 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Report: The IRS also targeted at least three liberal groups Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Report: The IRS also targeted at least three liberal groups Isn't it also possible that these e groups actually failed to maintain their tax exempt status? And to say: "Well, sure the IRS targeted republicans for years, but during that time some liberal groups ran into trouble and that mitigates the concentrated attacks by the IRS" is pretty weak. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Having dozens of liberal groups get fast tracked for tax exempt status while tea party groups were delayed for 27 months makes your argument equally weak Bob. Having the guy responsible getting bonuses every year for his 'work' (wink wink ) also hurts it. The fact is this administration's leaders chose to ignore the blatant abuse of power in almost every department. So if not actually guilty, their refusal to supervise their staff places them in the 'still responsible' for the misconduct. The beauty is the DOJ shooting the complicit media's support by their investigation. The press so badly wanted to protect Obama, but slowly the reality of the Obama's WH's corruption is forcing them to accept that they can't pretend only Fox News cares about the breaking of the law. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 15, 2013 Share Posted May 15, 2013 Once a lying power hungry queen, always a lying power hungry queen In my diary of August 12, 1974 I noted the following: John Labovitz apologized to me for the fact that months ago he and Hillary had lied to me[to conceal rules changes and dilatory tactics.] Labovitz said, “That came from Yale.” I said, “You mean Burke Marshall [senator Ted Kennedy's chief political strategist, with whom Hillary regularly consulted in violation of House rules.]Labovitz said, “Yes.” His apology was significant to me, not because it was a revelation but because of his contrition. At that time Hillary Rodham was 27 years old. She had obtained a position on our committee staff through the political patronage of her former Yale law school professor Burke Marshall and Senator Ted Kennedy. Eventually, because of a number of her unethical practices I decided that I could not recommend her for any subsequent position of public or private trust. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Conservative group waits a year, then just changes its name to a liberal one and gets tax exempt status in a couple weeks But but but...the IRS audited a liberal in 2005..........and another one in 2008 Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Conservative group waits a year, then just changes its name to a liberal one and gets tax exempt status in a couple weeks But but but...the IRS audited a liberal in 2005..........and another one in 2008 loooooool. They didn't change their name to a liberal group, they changed it to an environmental one. You can't see the difference, because Republicans burn this "Us vs Them" mentality into you, and you idiots become so far gone you don't know up from down, but only as it relates to the Republican agenda. To call "Greenhouse Solutions" a Liberal name is such sad, illogical propaganda that I legitimately feel sorry for you if you can't see that. Oh, and there's this line from the article, "The reason for the difference in timing could have nothing to do with the group's name. Greenhouse Solutions was applying for "permanent" nonprofit status after existing as a nonprofit group for some time. Media Trackers, a new group, was just beginning the first steps in the application process. Having a previous file with the IRS could very well have been the reason Greenhouse's application was approved so quickly." And of course, the idea of it being fast-tracked for a liberal-sounding name is the opinion of the explicitly conservative owner. So an explicitly political group (but but but they investigated a republican in 2008) requests non-profit status and it doesn't get approved in what the conservative group deems to be a reasonable time frame. An environmental group requests their existing status as a non-profit be upgraded to permanent, and it gets approved quickly. ZOMG CONSPIRACY. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 loooooool. They didn't change their name to a liberal group, they changed it to an environmental one. You can't see the difference, because Republicans burn this "Us vs Them" mentality into you, and you idiots become so far gone you don't know up from down, but only as it relates to the Republican agenda. To call "Greenhouse Solutions" a Liberal name is such sad, illogical propaganda that I legitimately feel sorry for you if you can't see that. Oh, and there's this line from the article, "The reason for the difference in timing could have nothing to do with the group's name. Greenhouse Solutions was applying for "permanent" nonprofit status after existing as a nonprofit group for some time. Media Trackers, a new group, was just beginning the first steps in the application process. Having a previous file with the IRS could very well have been the reason Greenhouse's application was approved so quickly." And of course, the idea of it being fast-tracked for a liberal-sounding name is the opinion of the explicitly conservative owner. So an explicitly political group (but but but they investigated a republican in 2008) requests non-profit status and it doesn't get approved in what the conservative group deems to be a reasonable time frame. An environmental group requests their existing status as a non-profit be upgraded to permanent, and it gets approved quickly. ZOMG CONSPIRACY. Ya..in the middle of the IRS admitting they targeted audits for conservative groups, and them admitted they were holding up tax exempt status for all Tea Party organizations, this guy is stretching credibility by pointing out that they got quick action when they changed their name to a communist sounding name. The fact that you are trying to spin this in your favor while ignoring the context of what's going on is telling of your willingness to see things through liberal blinded eyeglasses. ( Are there any other kinds? ) And I hate to educate you, because I feel many people are very happy in their ignorance, but the environmentalist movement is the home of modern socialism/communism. Everyone else knows this, everyone else understands why, and me pointing to a story on a left centrist site like Yahoo News who is agreeing with me SHOULD have been enough proof. But go ahead and pretend that it's me making this connection, not everyone else in the world. If it makes you feel better, Bob also tried to excuse this scandal that is inexcusable by saying that a couple liberal groups also got audited during the same tax year as the ones targeted for their political beliefs. Ah the lovers of Big Government, defending the government targeting political enemies. When I thought you wanted to be more like Europe, I thought it was Western Europe in the 90s, not Eastern Europe in the 70s. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Ya..in the middle of the IRS admitting they targeted audits for conservative groups, and them admitted they were holding up tax exempt status for all Tea Party organizations, this guy is stretching credibility by pointing out that they got quick action when they changed their name to a communist sounding name. The fact that you are trying to spin this in your favor while ignoring the context of what's going on is telling of your willingness to see things through liberal blinded eyeglasses. ( Are there any other kinds? ) And I hate to educate you, because I feel many people are very happy in their ignorance, but the environmentalist movement is the home of modern socialism/communism. Everyone else knows this, everyone else understands why, and me pointing to a story on a left centrist site like Yahoo News who is agreeing with me SHOULD have been enough proof. But go ahead and pretend that it's me making this connection, not everyone else in the world. Gotcha, environmentalism is now communism. Yes, republicans are not at all crazy. The only part of that article that "agreed" with you was the direct quotes taken from the Republican. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Gotcha, environmentalism is now communism. Yes, republicans are not at all crazy. The only part of that article that "agreed" with you was the direct quotes taken from the Republican. And yet..Yahoo News never considered pointing out your point that an environmentalist name isn't a liberal name. But do a google search and you'll get educated. Or don't and remain in the dark...which is what the left is hoping you'll do. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 BTW Danny, the really funny thing about the quote from you in my sig is that the 1st world designation is a bourgeois phraseology used to designate class status in the world. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 The patron saint of leftist baloney is even falling away from the need to excuse anything this president does. That should tell you something. http://www.thedailys...--into-darkness Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 And the IRS required a Pro-Life group to promise not to ever picket Planned Parenthood in order to receive their non-profit status. I think I'm safe from Bob showing me examples of Occupy groups being denied unless they took a shower and got a job, and Danny from explaining why 'Coalitions for Life Iowa' isn't a right leaning designation. But I wouldn't bet money on that. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 BTW The IRS will be instrumental in the implementation of Obamacare. Who would have guessed? Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 The patron saint of leftist baloney is even falling away from the need to excuse anything this president does. That should tell you something. http://www.thedailys...--into-darkness And that's why partisanship is such a suckers game. Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 And yet..Yahoo News never considered pointing out your point that an environmentalist name isn't a liberal name. But do a google search and you'll get educated. Or don't and remain in the dark...which is what the left is hoping you'll do. It's so funny to see you make claims that environmentalist are LIBERAL as if that's a bad thing. Since when has caring about the environment become so "evil" to Republicans? I suspect it's since Big Business told you to think that way. Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 BTW The IRS will be instrumental in the implementation of Obamacare. Who would have guessed? So? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 It's so funny to see you make claims that environmentalist are LIBERAL as if that's a bad thing. Since when has caring about the environment become so "evil" to Republicans? I suspect it's since Big Business told you to think that way. Liberals are by their nature stupid and incapable of accomplishing anything meaningful. Therefore it is a bad thing to have the people in charge of protecting the environment come from the shallow end of the gene pool. But killing a few millions blacks to save a pelican egg probably makes sense to you guys. I mean, they were third worlders after all... Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted May 16, 2013 Author Share Posted May 16, 2013 Ya..in the middle of the IRS admitting they targeted audits for conservative groups, and them admitted they were holding up tax exempt status for all Tea Party organizations, this guy is stretching credibility by pointing out that they got quick action when they changed their name to a communist sounding name. The fact that you are trying to spin this in your favor while ignoring the context of what's going on is telling of your willingness to see things through liberal blinded eyeglasses. ( Are there any other kinds? ) And I hate to educate you, because I feel many people are very happy in their ignorance, but the environmentalist movement is the home of modern socialism/communism. Everyone else knows this, everyone else understands why, and me pointing to a story on a left centrist site like Yahoo News who is agreeing with me SHOULD have been enough proof. But go ahead and pretend that it's me making this connection, not everyone else in the world. If it makes you feel better, Bob also tried to excuse this scandal that is inexcusable by saying that a couple liberal groups also got audited during the same tax year as the ones targeted for their political beliefs. Ah the lovers of Big Government, defending the government targeting political enemies. When I thought you wanted to be more like Europe, I thought it was Western Europe in the 90s, not Eastern Europe in the 70s. Well, the reason they searched groups with Tea Party and such was because they were the one's blatantly flaunting the law. Or are you against prosecuting illegal actions if you think they support your cause? Here's one example, http://www.huffingtonpost.com/andy-kroll/billionaire-political-donors_b_3285766.html?utm_hp_ref=politics Billionaires Unchained (excerpt) Because they're so lacking in transparency, some nonprofits have been emboldened to bend -- if not break -- the tax law. One of the more egregious examples was benignly named the Commission on Hope, Growth, and Opportunity (CHGO). Created in the summer of 2010, it informed the IRS that it wouldn't spend a penny on politics. During the 2010 elections, however, it put $2.3 million into ads attacking 11 Democratic congressional candidates. Then, sometime in 2011, CHGO simply closed up shop and disappeared -- a classic case of political hit-and-run. And it wouldn't have happened without a secretive wealthy bankroller: of the $4.8 million raised by CHGO, tax records show that $4 million came from a single donor (though we don’t know his or her name). Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 So? I imagine you will be happy having the IRS overseeing your forced purchasing of a product by the government. Some people find this chilling.... It would be hard to explain this to someone who thinks enriching Dow chemicals to stop the ozone hole that wasn't affected much by cfcs, was a good plan, yet is accusing me of being in the pockets of big business. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted May 16, 2013 Share Posted May 16, 2013 Well, the reason they searched groups with Tea Party and such was because they were the one's blatantly flaunting the law. Or are you against prosecuting illegal actions if you think they support your cause? Here's one example, http://www.huffingto...hp_ref=politics Billionaires Unchained (excerpt) Because they're so lacking in transparency, some nonprofits have been emboldened to bend -- if not break -- the tax law. One of the more egregious examples was benignly named the Commission on Hope, Growth, and Opportunity (CHGO). Created in the summer of 2010, it informed the IRS that it wouldn't spend a penny on politics. During the 2010 elections, however, it put $2.3 million into ads attacking 11 Democratic congressional candidates. Then, sometime in 2011, CHGO simply closed up shop and disappeared -- a classic case of political hit-and-run. And it wouldn't have happened without a secretive wealthy bankroller: of the $4.8 million raised by CHGO, tax records show that $4 million came from a single donor (though we don’t know his or her name). Oh NOES. The IRS should be given a pass to target political enemies if they can find ONE example to justify their actions. I hope you are equally forgiving when we get back in power and we turn the gun sites to a few places we feel like bringing down. Viva La Gander Link to post Share on other sites
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