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I'm much thicker he said, answering my question and confirming my suspicion all in one douchey hate your face moment.

 

Don't forget how nonchalant I am about it. In my swinging days only 3 times did I meet my match. I hear my brother has me beat but I have never seen it personally. Which I am okay with, because I don't need any Highlander moments. Too busy.

 

Enough about my dick though, the Heat, 26 straight right?

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I change my mind.   Make this shit illegal.

I'm much thicker he said, answering my question and confirming my suspicion all in one douchey hate your face moment.

Okay, I'm assuming this all started out by evolving into a wife swapping event of some sort. Best I can tell their is no homosexual activity happenin'. So, if correct, it seems that other guy like

Don't forget how nonchalant I am about it. In my swinging days only 3 times did I meet my match. I hear my brother has me beat but I have never seen it personally. Which I am okay with, because I don't need any Highlander moments. Too busy.

 

Enough about my dick though, the Heat, 26 straight right?

 

27.

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How do you handle it when you both want to hammer the same one.? Have you ever tag teamed one of the babes? Also, since you claim you are both fairly large, and your buddy likes toys, your gal must be fairly open.

 

We schedule. No tag teamed. It's not off the table but there would have to be some evolving of the relationships, probably, and I know for sure only one of them would be comfortable with that anyway. As it is now it's more like I have two very distinct marriages and in each one it's very private but not, if that makes sense. As far as open, you mean in terms of willingness to do things or blown up? Definitely willing. Not blown out. The toys are more, he just likes to use toys when he's doing his thing. I don't get it, I can get the same reactions with just me, maybe some fingers here or there and correct pressure and speed. It's just different styles for largely the same results.

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We schedule. No tag teamed. It's not off the table but there would have to be some evolving of the relationships, probably, and I know for sure only one of them would be comfortable with that anyway. As it is now it's more like I have two very distinct marriages and in each one it's very private but not, if that makes sense. As far as open, you mean in terms of willingness to do things or blown up? Definitely willing. Not blown out. The toys are more, he just likes to use toys when he's doing his thing. I don't get it, I can get the same reactions with just me, maybe some fingers here or there and correct pressure and speed. It's just different styles for largely the same results.

LOL this is great. If theres any truth in this thread, then wow just wow.
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So, anyway, Saturday is the anniversary of our first "date". We're going back to the same spot we met, it's a little college hangout not far from ASU called Four Peaks. If it was Fall I could get a growler of the Pumpkin Porter which is just killer. Oh, well, I will have to just have something else. They had some sort of Rye wine last time that was like 13% alcohol last time I went that was really good.

 

A lot has happened this year, moved in, got engaged, bought a few new cars with different couple combos on the titles, got all the kids on the same schedules and doing there thing, were in the process of buying some rental properties in the East Valley, not to mention weve done welll investing on all fronts. (I cant get my hands on enough bullets these days)Its been a good year. We're looking forward to the next with a certain amount of pep in our step for sure.

 

On top of all that when we first met I was about 60 pounds overweight and each sex session was a workout like none other, and I knew it was either drop weight or die do I dropped 40, so far. 20 to go.

 

Like I said it's been a good ****ing year. May just have to start playing some more poker. We will see. Time is definitely an issue these days and second wife isn't a fan. No ones perfect.

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Really wanted to shoehorn in that unclever quip, eh?

 

I don't know what 'quip' you've determined to be forced and 'unclever' but just in case you haven't paying attention over the years, being clever at will isn't something I struggle with.

 

Shlomo. (<-- an ironic example of being simultaniously clever and unclever)

 

The rest of what you said was funny, because it was basically you saying "No... That thing I said earlier? I didn't say that..."

Of course the laws as written will require contortion in order to accomidate homos and harems alike. If we're shifting the paradigm from "one man one woman" to "whatever consending adults want to do", then it will require rewriting everything, just as it's required massive re-writing for homosexuals thusfar.

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Weekend was a dud. Happens sometimes. Something's had been brewing for awhile and it all just came to a head, super fun.

 

We actually ended up skipping the brewery and going to this wine bar called Vintage 95 out in Gilbert. Great spot, romantic,love it. The dinner started out well, shared an appetizer, just talked and relaxed like we always do. Two bottles in Wife number two pulls out last months budget numbers, what the surplus was, what we paid towards debt, etc. Why?

 

We don't ****ing know. The woman is an absolute hawk when it comes to money, easily our biggest pain point. I like to spend. I also make enough too spend, but lets ignore that for now. Anyway, the three rational members of the group exchange looks that she is oblivious too, and we just play along, okay, wife number two lets look at these numbers.

 

Perfect numbers, and were furious. Not only did we put a certain amount aside towards debt that we wanted we doubled it and put the same amount in savings. Wtf? Not two weeks ago she was losing her shit at the three of us telling us we would be woefully short of our March goal because of our spending. It turns out she neglected to tell us that on top of the usual goals she also had a number she wanted to set aside just in case tax bills were higher than anticipated. So, we start in in her because she really put the house in a tailspin about something that technically wasn't even happening. And the night just went downhill. It got weird. At one point she insisted on telling a story about something we had argued about and we were still working through it, and with differing opinions I completely disagreed on her version and just tried to get her to stop. Nope. Wouldn't. Wanted to make a big deal about getting everything right with the kids Easter egg hunt, and gets mad at all of us because it's obvious we are just trying to get it done so we can get to bed and ****. Weird stories in the car,insisting that I always try Anal sex, and that we always do it which is not true, and really didnt connect at all.

 

She basically spent the past few days being a massive super C, and I was the one elected to deal with this tyrant, when she gets like this the other two count on me to calm her down. I did, but, it wasn't easy. It turns out it was a myriad of issues and she was just acting out. Now were on the right path dealing with those issues. Well, I suppose "right" path is debatable. Argument can and has been made that were all idiots. We do love this family though and this is normal family life. Sometimes you have crap weekends where one finds himself arguing that "No, I do NOT **** you in the ass that often."

 

I guess I shouldn't complain after all.

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So, since this has been kind of nice to just talk a bit about our crap, and I had mentioned that maybe I would tell the tale of my mom coming to work when she caught wind of what was really going down with our new "friends", here goes.

 

Months into the relationship and things are going well. We have had multiple "family" days to get to know each other and a date has been set for move in to the new place. I am psyched, what man wouldn't be? On a Sunday night my mom shows up out of the blue at my work, with a letter, hand written.

 

I just want to say that I love my mother and this story means no disrespect, and I understand completely how weird this is for her. She had her convictions, they are strong and in there own way good. They are just not my convictions. Anyway, the handwritten letter is a mess, barely legible at all, the product of a very upset woman. My mom let me have it. Said I was putting my child in danger, that my hedonistic lifestyle could only lead to child abuse. (Huh?) That my friends were monsters, wolves, and would eat me and my wife alive. (My answer: Mom, of the four of us I am easily the wolf.)That not only did I not love my wife, that there is no way I could love new wife and no way any of then loved me. (Easily the most offensive.) That I would take my daughter to hell. (I hope not.) That god would punish my friends because they know me. Just an awful experience. By the time she was done I felt as low as I have ever felt.

 

It was actually an amazing catalyst for love. I limped home that morning. New wife, seeing how upset I was, took the day off from work and just held me. (She's amazingly loving, a big heart. Crazy as she can be about some things but mostly just big hearted.) She just held me for hours while I slept, and when I woke I felt better. At some point we made love but I was exhausted, barely remember.

 

That was awhile ago. Haven't seen mom since. Talked a few times, she wants nothing to do with me or any of us, save for my actual child, and even then it's tied to stipulations. (Meet at a neutral spot, can't have new wife with me, etc.) It's really sad.

 

I get it. I really do. Best I can do is hope that maybe someday she comes around, as other family has. Truthfully some of the support has been shocking. Quite a bit of family has welcomed the new parts of my family with open arms. That's been a joy to see. Interesting maybe only to us, but some of the most judgemental ones have been old swing friends. Maybe it's about taking ourselves off of the market? I don't know, but that's been a bit off putting for sure.

 

I guess we could just rename this thread. It turns out I may be the only one on this site who gives two shits about alternative situations. Actually, I may be the only one on this site right now.

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I change my mind.

 

Make this shit illegal.

 

Just as much bulllshit as any relationship for sure. Sometimes more. It's a lot to maintain. Me and my wife. Me and my second. All four of us. Me and other husband. Me, other husband and second wife......and on. Multiple dynamics all which have its own set of challenges.

 

I love it, never bored.

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Weekend was a dud. Happens sometimes. Something's had been brewing for awhile and it all just came to a head, super fun.

 

We actually ended up skipping the brewery and going to this wine bar called Vintage 95 out in Gilbert. Great spot, romantic,love it. The dinner started out well, shared an appetizer, just talked and relaxed like we always do. Two bottles in Wife number two pulls out last months budget numbers, what the surplus was, what we paid towards debt, etc. Why?

 

We don't ****ing know. The woman is an absolute hawk when it comes to money, easily our biggest pain point. I like to spend. I also make enough too spend, but lets ignore that for now. Anyway, the three rational members of the group exchange looks that she is oblivious too, and we just play along, okay, wife number two lets look at these numbers.

 

Perfect numbers, and were furious. Not only did we put a certain amount aside towards debt that we wanted we doubled it and put the same amount in savings. Wtf? Not two weeks ago she was losing her shit at the three of us telling us we would be woefully short of our March goal because of our spending. It turns out she neglected to tell us that on top of the usual goals she also had a number she wanted to set aside just in case tax bills were higher than anticipated. So, we start in in her because she really put the house in a tailspin about something that technically wasn't even happening. And the night just went downhill. It got weird. At one point she insisted on telling a story about something we had argued about and we were still working through it, and with differing opinions I completely disagreed on her version and just tried to get her to stop. Nope. Wouldn't. Wanted to make a big deal about getting everything right with the kids Easter egg hunt, and gets mad at all of us because it's obvious we are just trying to get it done so we can get to bed and ****. Weird stories in the car,insisting that I always try Anal sex, and that we always do it which is not true, and really didnt connect at all.

 

She basically spent the past few days being a massive super C, and I was the one elected to deal with this tyrant, when she gets like this the other two count on me to calm her down. I did, but, it wasn't easy. It turns out it was a myriad of issues and she was just acting out. Now were on the right path dealing with those issues. Well, I suppose "right" path is debatable. Argument can and has been made that were all idiots. We do love this family though and this is normal family life. Sometimes you have crap weekends where one finds himself arguing that "No, I do NOT **** you in the ass that often."

 

I guess I shouldn't complain after all.

I could be wrong, but dont mistake our curiosity with a desire to read an in depth accounting of your weekends.And amscray is right.
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Thanks for the stories!

 

I don't know what 'quip' you've determined to be forced and 'unclever' but just in case you haven't paying attention over the years, being clever at will isn't something I struggle with.

 

Shlomo. (<-- an ironic example of being simultaniously clever and unclever)

 

The rest of what you said was funny, because it was basically you saying "No... That thing I said earlier? I didn't say that..."

Of course the laws as written will require contortion in order to accomidate homos and harems alike. If we're shifting the paradigm from "one man one woman" to "whatever consending adults want to do", then it will require rewriting everything, just as it's required massive re-writing for homosexuals thusfar.

 

Is re-writing it for homosexuals any more complicated than copy and pasting "person" where it used to say "man" or "woman?" I mean, they'll make it more complicated of course, but is it really?

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I could be wrong, but dont mistake our curiosity with a desire to read an in depth accounting of your weekends.And amscray is right.

 

you are wrong

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Our specialty is generally awkward sex stories. Preferably ones where stupidity ends up in there being no sex at all.

 

Wrong thread.

 

I'm just interested in stories that are unique to this particular arrangement. I don't care about regular sex or relationship stories.

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So, just finished planning out an end of April staycation. It's sort of anniversary number two, in that we had first date night, night after that was good old first time ****in night, then a month later, at the end of April, there was a house party where we had not seen each other for a month, and we all realized after 6 hours of going at it where we locked the doors and the rest of the party was not allowed in, well, we realized shit was different. So, were gonna have some in town fun. Night one at Talking Stick resort, night two at The Clarendon downtown (Tickets to Christopher Titus at Stand Up Live) and night three at The Arizona Grand in Tempe. The twist is every night we only have one room. We haven't done same room in a long, long time, I am interested to see how it goes. Anything goes, but what will actually happen?

 

My best guess is that it will be alot like what happens at home. When it's the four of us we always go with the opposites. That's a two fold thing: one, we all sleep better with the opposites. It took months for us to be able to admit. Two, I see my actual wife about once a week, the same for the other two, and that's enough. Everything else is geared towards drinking the new milkshake, and drinking it up good, and I know for my actual wife she looks at hubby dos the same way. So, it's possible that even though it's same room there won't even be trading on any level. I would say probable.

 

That being said, I do think a nice healthy foursome session is a good idea, it's just risky in terms of how the girls bodies react every time, it messes stuff up. They both have a hard time handling multiple bodily fluids running about up in the who-area so we have to be extremely careful else we jack up the night.

 

I am also curious how much poker I will play night one. Definitely planning on playing the afternoon tourney that the casino poker room offers, but past that I don't know. I keep a lid on how much I really am turned on by the game because wife number two is not a fan if gambling of any sort (the money hawk thing) but maybe she's ready to give me the room to put in a nice higher limit cash game session.

 

We will see!

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I think this is an interesting topic, not the quad sex life and wife bitching story which for now I will take as a joke account, but nonetheless interesting. I support marriage for any two people. I am not opposed to people living in what ever living or financial arrangement they see fit. I think of marriage as simply the term used to describe the type of contract, like we might use to define others, real estate, taxes, or whatever. There is obviously no good reason to not allow any 2 people to enter into said contract for many reasons, financial, kids, estate, etc.. And also, I believe there is some benefit for children in having two parents and have no problem with government allowing soft paternalism in encouraging those relationships. I have never seen any studies or evidence that groups accomplish child rearing better. I am also not in any way condemning single parents, I was one.

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I think this is an interesting topic, not the quad sex life and wife bitching story which for now I will take as a joke account, but nonetheless interesting. I support marriage for any two people. I am not opposed to people living in what ever living or financial arrangement they see fit. I think of marriage as simply the term used to describe the type of contract, like we might use to define others, real estate, taxes, or whatever. There is obviously no good reason to not allow any 2 people to enter into said contract for many reasons, financial, kids, estate, etc.. And also, I believe there is some benefit for children in having two parents and have no problem with government allowing soft paternalism in encouraging those relationships. I have never seen any studies or evidence that groups accomplish child rearing better. I am also not in any way condemning single parents, I was one.

I think most people against gay marriage would be ok with some sort of govt sanctioned liason guaranteeing same rights as married couples.
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I think this is an interesting topic, not the quad sex life and wife bitching story which for now I will take as a joke account, but nonetheless interesting. I support marriage for any two people. I am not opposed to people living in what ever living or financial arrangement they see fit. I think of marriage as simply the term used to describe the type of contract, like we might use to define others, real estate, taxes, or whatever. There is obviously no good reason to not allow any 2 people to enter into said contract for many reasons, financial, kids, estate, etc.. And also, I believe there is some benefit for children in having two parents and have no problem with government allowing soft paternalism in encouraging those relationships. I have never seen any studies or evidence that groups accomplish child rearing better. I am also not in any way condemning single parents, I was one.

 

Hmmmmm......I do feel the need on some level to prove that it's not a joke, at the same time while we are out, we are careful, in that careers could be hurt. That's a struggle for us. Friends all know, most family, but past that were pretty careful. Tell you what, lets take a pics or it didnt happen approach. I will post pics with faces scrubbed, and at some point when I feel comfortable and feel it's controllable I will link Facebook. There is also a blog in the works as well, just working in having enough content because it may be monetized in some way.

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