FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 22, 2012 Author Share Posted August 22, 2012 If the season is cancelled, NBC will pay the NHL $200 million and then get an extra year added to the end of their contract.link Seems like a pretty bad deal for NBC Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Well, is the extra year free? It's worth about $200M in today's dollars. ($2B, 10-year contract) Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Vu 176 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Yeah, it's free. NBC is basically giving the league extra resources to withstand a cancelled season. That doesn't seem like it's in their best interests though. If the season is gone, when it does come back ratings will certainly take a hit, right? Doesn't make sense to me from NBC's standpoint. It's a great deal for the league. Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 that was probably part of the negotiating between the NHL and NBC long before this. so I'm sure it was some condition the NHL insisted upon. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 Brendan Witt@WhitemooseranchBS how Bettman call the fans the greatest then stabs them in the back. Hey Gary go **** yourself and get the deal done selfish dick Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 does the league release profit numbers? I just wonder, if we kept the current CBA and the economy gets back to normal, would it still operate at a loss? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 24, 2012 Author Share Posted August 24, 2012 does the league release profit numbers? I just wonder, if we kept the current CBA and the economy gets back to normal, would it still operate at a loss?I think the issue is that a lot of American teams can't break even no matter what because of the salary cap floor which is now higher than the max cap was 5 years ago. The high revenue teams in the US and the Canadian teams are doing just fine.The worst thing to happen to marginal American teams has been the strengthing of the Canadian Dollar since that has driven up overall league revenue which increases the cap and floor but the NHL doesn't have very much revenue sharing so they don't see that increase in revenue but are forced to increase their payroll. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 On that same note, it really seems that the biggest issue is actually a division amongst owners over revenue sharing. The rich don't want to help the poor. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 On that same note, it really seems that the biggest issue is actually a division amongst owners over revenue sharing. The rich don't want to help the poor. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 The league's counteroffer yesterday gives me a little bit of hope that this all might get worked out in the next two weeks. They seem to have relaxed their financial expectations quite a bit. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 yeah... don't think so... they gave the players more, but then changed how they calculated HRR, so it's actually less.. and they want to roll the cap back to 58 million, without rolling salaries back... 16 teams already over that cap... Link to post Share on other sites
Fubar The Sperm 1 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well atleast I have the EPL to watch. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted August 29, 2012 Share Posted August 29, 2012 I keep trying to get my head around the CBA and I go cross-eyed and give up. I just want to watch hockey in 5 weeks. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 29, 2012 Author Share Posted August 29, 2012 Well atleast I have the EPL to watch. There are going to be a lot of very good young NHL players who will be sent to the AHL by their teams. Hockey fans in Toronto should make an effort to go to some Marlie's games. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 http://www.nhlpa.com/news/headlines/details/2012/09/04/setting-the-record-straight-cba-myths-vs.-facts NHLPA on their view of myths vs facts Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'd be interested to know which teams are really spearheading this drive...they keep saying "it's the rich teams" but I've gotta believe any list of the top 5 richest owners has to include Pegula and I can't see this being him...would be very out of character IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 5, 2012 Author Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'd be interested to know which teams are really spearheading this drive...they keep saying "it's the rich teams" but I've gotta believe any list of the top 5 richest owners has to include Pegula and I can't see this being him...would be very out of character IMO. Instead of rich I think you need to think high revenue and Buffalo isn't one of the highest. Think, Leafs, Rangers, Philly etc Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Instead of rich I think you need to think high revenue and Buffalo isn't one of the highest. Think, Leafs, Rangers, Philly etc So, basically the teams I already blame everything bad in the league on? Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I say think Jeremy Jacobcs and Ed Snider. High revenue, powerful and egotistic enough to push this on. These owners, and others, get such a free pass from hockey fans who save all their hate for Gary Bettman. Its like ignoring OJ did the crime, and hating Johnny Cochrane. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 7, 2012 Author Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yah, this is going to be ugly. NHL’s plan would bring back the reserve clause: agent Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Likely the 3rd lockout in 20 years under Bettman's "guidance" -- each time as the NHL was gaining some traction. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 11, 2012 Author Share Posted September 11, 2012 Really long article from Bob McKenzie http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=404989 Link to post Share on other sites
Fenxis 99 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 McKenzie for commissioner. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 Great article. I learned more from that one piece than all the other pundits running around spewing half-baked figures and pseudo-wisdom on how to "save the NHL". Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafpoker 1,462 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Im beginning to get bothered by this now. This is usually the time of year I start to get excited, now a part of me just wants them to cancel the whole year and screw themselves over. Link to post Share on other sites
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