Michael Minkoff Aka Professionalpoker And Censoring At Two Plus Two

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I then went back to comment and comments were quickly deleted. Comments were related to thread and citing recent actions by Pokerstrategy.com as an example. Pokerstrategy.com is attacking affiliates who have generic term "poker strategy" in the name. I commented on how the tpt case would be cited and hurt poker affiliates. My comments were then being deleted and what comments left made no sense because others were gone. Some of my posts were direct answers to green mods asking me questions. My account was later temp banned and I feel as though PP actions were because of that day. I was threatened that my Caesars / Wynn Ties to organized crime thread would be deleted too:

I can follow this story up til this point. After that, I'm totally lost:

Here are pm's http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jun/18/local/me-pellicano18 Here is link to someone else who's life was threatened from people that I've exposed. This is why I will not reveal identity. I can tell you this - I have a lot of contacts in poker world especially with other writers. Also, I have many contacts in tech. You said I could post, I asked you permission and you said OK. Then when I posted you didnt like that fact I didnt agree with punishment.---End Quote---PP:Actually I am thinking you are a nut. You fail to recognize facts and laws and just continue to spout your beliefs without for a minute considering that you are wrong. You fail to prove that you are what you state, an investigative reporter in any fashion. Why shouldn't we close your thread and ban you?CC: mason malmuthAs you can see there Mason Malmuth is Cc'd. It is perfectly normal for me to believe he was involved in this decision because he wasn't cc'd the other times.

Is that follows a series of PMs? Where does one person's statement begin and the other's end? Did you leave a on of the conversation out? Why are we talking about your desire to remain anonymous? Ahhh.. I'm confused.Without understanding the story, I can't really comment.

I can understand that. People who do the amount of digging I do generally are obsessive and focused. To me the PPA posting there every day to have players call up congressmen to do that exact opposite of what I want is annoying to me. Also, people seem blind to facts like Jon Kyl and his obvious flip flop. I'm happy to not fall into majority opinion especially when I look at the FTP thread.

Yeah.. you also have a tendency to just sort of start talking about something else in the middle of a conversation. I get that you think they're related, but I don't know why I'm hearing about Jon Kyl flip flopping right now--I thought we were talking about your relationship with 2p2.You do this A LOT. It makes it very very hard to have a discussion with you--at least on the Internet.

Daniel's ban was much more different than mine. It is my belief that he was not banned because he posted twice like I did. I believe that confusion happened, but that he was banned for not being a paid advertiser. I think the aftermath was poorly handled as well.

I think that was poorly handled to. I didn't really follow the details of that situation, so I can't say much, but I thought it was all sort of silly.However, you seem to be confused since Daniel is a Stars sponsored pro, and Stars is a huge sponsor of 2p2 from what I can tell. (I don't know anything about 2p2's financials, but I know that they sponsor the PokerCast and I assume that they show ads to non-Americans and stuff.)"I never thought there was a mass conspiracy against me at TPT. I felt as though PP have chip on his shoulder because of boyd thread and that you did also because of our debate on DD. I respectfully backed out of that because I did not want to hurt FTP or Kevmath. I apologized to you but never pressed the FTP backend again until yesterday." Huh? We had a debate on DD? Is DD DonkDown or something else? I don't remember any such debate. I would guess that PP doesn't really remember the Boyd thread either.

I disagree and think it was either PP being overzealous with me, or the context of the post:

Eh. He banned you because you reposted it after it was deleted. He actually happened to mention that in the mod forum right after it happened (It's not common for mods to talk about things like that with each other, but we were all talking about that huge thread, so it came up). It's easy to assign a more complicated motive, but from a mod's perspective it's just really really obvious that that's what a temp ban is for--plus he told me that that's what it was for immediately after it happened.Again, I bet PP had already basically forgotten the content of the post by the time that he temp banned you. There's very simple logic to "I deleted a post because I felt it clearly didn't belong. Poster ignored that fact and decided to repost it. I could delete it again, but he'll probably just post it again. So, I'll ban him for a day so he stops doing that." Obviously that logic was slightly wrong because you apparently didn't know that the post was deleted, but it's exactly why we give out temp bans."I was especially upset at the temp ban because of the innocence of the link to Forbes.com. I have a big problem with Pokerstars buying Full Tilt Poker for a number of reasons. Being temp banned at such a crucial time infuriated me. To me it's the equivalent of turning away voters at a registration center (being unable to post contrary to mass opinion on public forum) Although the site is a privately owned forum, it still is a public forum. Yes it is great that everyone is getting their money back, but the money should never have been taken in first place. I'm sure DN and I disagree on FTP's shortfalls, but we can always debate that here. Since the owners of PS are so mysterious, it's hard to research how they got their money. I find many issues with that meeting at sea between Wynn and Ps owner. First off why did PS need Wynn pre BF? Thee meetings were years ago and I don't believe the bills were public that stated that the owners of online poker licenses must have casino licenses with so many tables etc etc. But I could have missed something. Where these meetings to shed FTP by using Wynn's influence?"Again.. you weren't temp banned because of your post. You were temp banned because you reposted it after it was deleted. You probably could've gotten it reversed by contacting someone calmly.(FWIW, if you'd PMed a mod about that post explaining why it was relevant, PP would probably have let you repost it. I get that you didn't realize it was deleted, but I thought I'd mention.)

I think goofy is a really poor word. Meme's are goofy and fun. Using my post as example simply is trying to make me look like a fool. The only place to complain was the about the forums section were I went. I was completely perm banned in seconds. What is really wrong about that sticky is that each statement had been quoted or posted rather in the forum or in the news. I stated a year ago that the FTP software would be leased out:

I agree that you shouldn't have been permabanned. I feel pretty strongly about that, actually, though it's PP's decision whether or not to reverse it--not mine. That's why I posted in the mod forum about it after it happened.Actually one of the things that bugs me about this thread and your blog post and your tweets and stuff is that I keep getting lumped in with this decision. My only involvement is that I'm also a mod on 2p2 and that I immediately and consistently said that it was inappropriate.WRT my sticky, I'm sorry that you were the butt of the joke, but I mean, lighten up. I made fun of a post that you made on an Internet forum. Two other people who were quoted in the thread actually thought it was funny. (And both agreed to be more considerate when posting.)

Poker Domain SeizuresIn my opinion all of these studies the states are doing are wasting tax payers money. They could drag a third rate affiliate off any forum and that affiliate would be able to tell them that the state would not be able to get the conversions needed to have profitable poker eco system. You need thousands of players all day long to get games going. This leads me to the conclusion that the government went after Full Tilt Poker, UB, and Pokerstars to wipe out future competition for Caesars Entertainment Group. Once they have a bill in place for regulation of online poker, they will grant Caesars Entertainment Group a sweetheart license to run online poker sites in the USA. The state’s study will conclude that they can’t do it on their own, and that they will have to buy “skins” from Caesars Entertainment group. A skin is essentially a re-branded poker room that is running on the same network. So, let’s say the Rivers Casino Poker Room wants to do a online poker room after it passes Pennsylvania state law requirements. They will contact Caesars Entertainment group and purchase the rights to re-brand the software with their own logos. Users in Pittsburgh would log into Rivers Online Poker Room and would see graphics from Rivers Casino. In reality, they would be playing with people from all over the country and the world. Rivers Casino would get 40% of the revenue generated from only their players that are tracked to them, Caesars would get 50% and the state + US government would get the remaining 10%. This is why Harry Reid wanted a black out period…. He wanted to have Pokerstars and Full Tilt Poker cease their LEGAL operations in the US so that he could get all his ducks in a row for the passage of a bill that will clarify to banks that it’s actually legal to make deposits to online poker rooms.I had said Caesars because they owned 888. I later said Zynga. I did not know it would be Pokerstars, because I didn't understand how fast the PS situation could be reversed or why Wynn would should his friend in the foot. However, I discuss how these lobbyist can do reversals in short time spans as in the case of Abramoff with the indian casinos and Sun Cruz:Jack Abramoff Indain casinos

Again, I don't know what this has to do with anything. I'm trying to listen here, man, but you're really not making it easy on me.

I think that you have considered my feelings today but not the other day when I was posted in the sticky.

Eh.. we're talking about two different things:1) You accusing me of having vague nefarious relationships with companies that, if they did exist, would completely ruin my reputation2) Me quoting something you said on a message board with some lighthearted jabs.I mean.. I'm sorry that that upset you. I don't think I should have anticipated that.

I agree that sometimes I take a shot in the dark with some of my hypothesis. I resent the use of the word "theories" or "conspiracy theories" to me those are worse that the word Shill because a shill is at least paid whilst a "theorist" is looked at like hes crazy. The shill attachment came because I still don't understand the access to the backend access stuff. Also , poker is not the only subject I research when it comes to lobbyist. Many politicians or FBI agents etc etc get well paying "security" jobs after they do the bidding of the lobbyist. So at first they don't make a profit, but once the legislation or bill gets passed , they soon get high paying consulting job. I could use Louis Freeh and Michael Chertoff as an example as both run security firms now. That was my logic and the use of the shill word was used to hurt you because of mocking me in that thread. I retracted it at DD and reinstated it when the post was put in the sticky section. Yes it would not make sense to further publicize something that one is trying to hide, but I took it as sort of you using your respected opinion to discredit me, thus not only discrediting me for that mere post but anything I've ever posted. That's why I took it very personal. Also, some of my posts that seem unrelated to you or the other mods will be relevant in a couple of months or one year. Just like when I posted about the time frame to make claim with DOJ (I think it was months before anyone else).

"The shill attachment came because I still don't understand the access to the backend access stuff."FTP didn't give me that information. They were extremely pissed that it came out, of course."I think that the sticky should be taken down and an apology issued in it's place for 3 days to 1 week after forum is back up."That's not going to happen. I'll remove the quote, though. I was already going to because it turns out it wasn't a great example given the context (someone was super cool to point that out in the ATF thread), but also because there's no need to leave something like that up if it upsets you as much as it seems to. I'll forget, so you should remind me because I assume you won't forget."As I've stated before , I think you are a good person and I think your a brilliant person. I attribute much of that to your father who is also well spoken."Thanks for the kind words. My dad's a great guy. I'm really surprised that he's coming up, though."You have to take in consideration the devastation that this is going to have on Poker affiliates. The players will get there money back, but we have way more time and money invested than the players and we are going to get totally screwed. Both you, Two Plus Two and DN should also take into consideration the dangers of a poker (casino) monopoly."I mean.. I think 2p2's mostly interested in running a poker forum and publishing books; I assume DN's probably isn't worried about the company that he works for having a monopoly; and I'm mostly interested in my security gig and upcoming grad school life. Plus, I recorded Game of Thrones, and I'm super psyched about that.In other words... Relax."Sorry for my long winded response. I am very tired and there may be some ramblings."lol at apologizing to me for being long-winded. It would be cool if you could try to keep your... I don't know what you want me to call them because you nixed theories... out of it, though.Regardless, get some sleep, man. We're arguing about your ban on a forum that doesn't even exist currently! It can wait.

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Thanks for the kind words. My dad's a great guy. I'm really surprised that he's coming up, though.

Your dad is mentioned because I found a quote of his regarding journalism:Perhaps NYU professor Mitchell Stephens said it best:”[O]pinion is a way of getting at the truth, and we tend to forget that sometimes in America. Sometimes you think that American journalism has gotten so opinionphobic that it has lost a tool that contributes to people’s understanding.”