digitalmonkey 929 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 $1Follow up question:Then why are we allowing players to be picked up for $0.25 now? Link to post Share on other sites
iBeaver 409 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 Follow up question:Then why are we allowing players to be picked up for $0.25 now?Honestly I have no clue.In the fchl we would allow gm's who could not make the draft or had to leave early to pick up junk ayers for .25. Since everyone was there I really don't see the need to offer this. I understand Jay left because he had to get up at 5am but I don't get why people who were actually there till the end getting quarter players. I need a player but I am not going to get him till fa starts And I will just pay my dollar. This whole snake draft mess is overkill. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Free agency is officially now open to everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Honestly I have no clue.In the fchl we would allow gm's who could not make the draft or had to leave early to pick up junk ayers for .25. Since everyone was there I really don't see the need to offer this. I understand Jay left because he had to get up at 5am but I don't get why people who were actually there till the end getting quarter players. I need a player but I am not going to get him till fa starts And I will just pay my dollar. This whole snake draft mess is overkill.Everyone was there, but Jay wasn't the only one who chose to leave early rather than wait hours just to pick up a couple players when they only had enough left to bid $0.25. I can certainly understand not wanting to wait around for that.So rather than force everyone to wait around, it was allowed that anyone choosing to leave could pick up players for $0.25 the next day. It's a bit of an advantage in some ways, but the advantage is probably offset by the fact that they get last pick. We did this last year and in the FCHL.Normally, it's fine. The draft is over and people have the next day to make pickups. Because of the whole auction messes this year, there was confusion for a few people as to how many players they needed. I didn't want to do a free-for-all, since then people would likely either missed out on taking guys when they should have, or erred cautiously and picked up too many guys. Either way, it would've meant other people might not have been able to pick up who they wanted because of others' mistakes, and that seemed to me to be a big problem.To avoid that, I gave everyone a day to get their rosters right so we'd know how many slots. If this was the FCHL, I would've just started the free-for-all at a certain time. But we're trying not to be so hardcore in this league and give people who have more time too many advantages, so I thought the snake draft was a more fair way to do it.Sadly, not everyone found the time to make pickups or send me picks in the couple days after the draft, so not everyone has a legit roster. Oh well, we tried. Anyone without a legal roster (might just be serge, I don't know) is now stuck picking up the dregs after everyone else has yet another chance to sort through them.I don't really like having $0.25 players still available, but at least serge has an illegal roster that would've been avoided if yahoo's system didn't suck dick. Sure it was his own error, but we all made mistakes that day. For now, I'm most interested in everyone having legal rosters, and if he had to pick up guys for $1, that would make it pretty difficult to do so, and overly punish him for the draft day mistake, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Follow up question:Then why are we allowing players to be picked up for $0.25 now?If you were following this thread, and I'm sure you were, then you know why. I'm not a fan of this socratic method of questioning - it looks sarcastic. If you disagree/d or had/have questions about what was being done, it looks less sarcastic to just post those questions, rather than ask for a general recap of the whole situation. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I believe as of yesterday everyone had a legal roster except Serge Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Thanks Matt - you rock. Link to post Share on other sites
iBeaver 409 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am not going to post your long post but I only want to point out one thing. You said people didn't want to wait hours to pick up scrap players. The draft didn't even last 2 hours so I think you meant to say minutes. I have a whole bunch of other comments but I will bite my tongue as its not worth making abig deal out of this whole thing. And just to reiterate what I mentioned a coue times this year and what I stated last season. Going forward I will be doing zero admin stuff and not be a commish of any kind. Not doing any of those things is what prompted me to return this season. Whenever I decide to ever get back on my computer I will set Matt up as full commish of yahoo and take me off completely. He can add anyone else if he wants too. He already has full powers over the spreadsheets. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I am not going to post your long post but I only want to point out one thing. You said people didn't want to wait hours to pick up scrap players. The draft didn't even last 2 hours so I think you meant to say minutes. I have a whole bunch of other comments but I will bite my tongue as its not worth making abig deal out of this whole thing. And just to reiterate what I mentioned a coue times this year and what I stated last season. Going forward I will be doing zero admin stuff and not be a commish of any kind. Not doing any of those things is what prompted me to return this season. Whenever I decide to ever get back on my computer I will set Matt up as full commish of yahoo and take me off completely. He can add anyone else if he wants too. He already has full powers over the spreadsheets.If people had stuck around to make those quarter picks, it would've been about 2 hours. So that's 1.75 hours longer than necessary for a few people. I'd appreciate if they'd have stuck around too, as I did, but we're not a hardcore league, and if people need to work at 5am or want to spend time with their family, I think the ability to pick up guys next-day is a reasonable arrangement.It got a little more complicated of course thanks to Yahoo's crap, but it was only really extra complicated for me (very slightly for JP, Jay and serge) so I don't know what everyone else is complaining about.If you have other concerns, I'd love to hear them. If you don't feel like making a big fight publicly, we can always talk in private. I had making unilateral decisions as I've done the last few days, but I'm rarely, if ever, getting opinions or suggestions, so that kind of leaves me hanging. As you know, the commish is a crappy job, which I don't particularly want, but someone has to do it. Link to post Share on other sites
Underdog 10 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Follow up question:Then why are we allowing players to be picked up for $0.25 now?The system wouldnt allow me to pick up another player cause it said my roster was full cause i had a player that wasnt available that i bid on that was on my roster (stl p)I think that may have been a prob with others BTW yahoo auction keeper drafts are a cluster *&*^*))Should of went with msn thing Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 The system wouldnt allow me to pick up another player cause it said my roster was full cause i had a player that wasnt available that i bid on that was on my roster (stl p)I think that may have been a prob with others BTW yahoo auction keeper drafts are a cluster *&*^*))Should of went with msn thingoh my god, Yahoo is not happening again. What a shitshow. Why they limit the number of reversals or timeouts, I have no idea. For private leagues, draft results should be fully editable by the commish, at any time, including unlimited timeouts.If I even suggest Yahoo over MSN next year, kill me. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 In regards to drafting on yahoo, someone told me that there is a player exclusion list that you can add to (I think?) so if we wanted to try yahoo next year that might be helpful. Sorry I didn't see it beforeHere we gohttp://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/sports/fa...seball-105.html Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 In regards to drafting on yahoo, someone told me that there is a player exclusion list that you can add to (I think?) so if we wanted to try yahoo next year that might be helpful. Sorry I didn't see it beforeHere we gohttp://help.yahoo.com/l/us/yahoo/sports/fa...seball-105.html Looks like that is for pre-ranking players done by individual GMs. Doubt we can exclude players individually from Yahoo's pool of players for the purpose of our draft. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 For waivers, I'm going to organize it by record and not points so I'm making the waiver order: (feel free to change it if you want) Ingmen NM Hurricanes Bulls (tied w/ Mustangs in standings, lost 4-2 vs Mustangs last season so they "win" the tiebreaker) Mustangs LB Whalers Douches( tied with Udogs in Standings and 3-3 in season series but lost 272.5-253 in the most points for in H2H) Underdogs Beavers Monkeys (tied with Bobbles but Bobbles won season series 4-2) Bobbles Broadway Go Bears Please correct me if you want it by points, Dan.And for everyone. Keep in mind that http://rezmanbrown.com/pools/fcbl/ has all of the league's records and #s and we're all ready to go for this season. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 That looks great Matt.Everyone should be buying Matt beer next time they see him. He's the only reason we are even close to ready to start the season.Three cheers for Matt! Link to post Share on other sites
MapleLeafs 142 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Great job so far Matt, thanks!As for the auction - if I knew it was only going to be 2 hours, I would have stayed. We've done MSN drafts for FCHL in the past that have started at 8:00 and finished after midnight. When I saw this one was at 9:30 pm, I knew the time sucked for me, but it was needed to accommodate west coasters (hey maybe Sunday drafts would work in the future for everybody). With that in mind, I envisioned the auction ending around 1:00 am or later and there was no way I could hang out that late to fill my roster. I asked Danny if I could get the main guys I wanted early (kinsler etc.)and then grab 0.25 players the next day since this was common practice in FCHL, and for FCBL last year.Yes, I left early to gain an edge, but that edge was at work next day, not in the pool. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 To be honest, if I'd known Jay was going to be a main beneficiary, I probably wouldn't have allowed it. He wins too much. At least if we could exhaust him for work the next day, we'd gain some small advantage, maybe. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 I still think we need to penalize Andre somehow to make things more fair for the rest of us. Link to post Share on other sites
iBeaver 409 Posted March 27, 2012 Share Posted March 27, 2012 Sigh. I really need to just completely stop posting. I understand why Jay left. I even made mention of that yesterday. I'm not looming for an argument public or private. Or at al because angry Steve is not angry but he tends to say things that often get misconstrued. So I will continue to bite my tongue and just move on. Have a good season and all that jazz. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 ill be home later today and hopefuly can fix my roster.I was told to wait so i may have misunderstood the previous communication.Thanks Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 ill be home later today and hopefuly can fix my roster.I was told to wait so i may have misunderstood the previous communication.ThanksLooks like - everyone was supposed to wait except you!You'll need to acquire $0.50 from someone, then add 2 players. You can add them in Yahoo and post in the Transaction forum.Glad you're planning on doing this today If you do get stuck/busy, you can PM me your choices for players and we'll do the admin stuff after. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 you need a pitching team, don't forget! I need to update the pitching spreadsheet so I will soon Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 28, 2012 Share Posted March 28, 2012 let's get the bets rolling! Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 So who can trade me some cash.. Link to post Share on other sites
wsox8 10 Posted March 29, 2012 Share Posted March 29, 2012 I have 1.50 available for this season Link to post Share on other sites
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