Don't Believe That Western Gov's Behind Protests...

[Mercury69 3]

Not to be contentious here, but you ****ing Americans can go **** yourselves with your **** attitudes about military and shit. Just go **** yourselves. if you serriously want to do anything about it, come on up and I will personally ram a beer bottle down your throat and **** your daughter in the ass while you watch. All this "me and a troop of Boy Scouts" bullshit is old and tired and your day is done, you planet economy sucking, trillion dollar in debt nation of arrogant ****wads.Damn I had fun writing that lol. And, because i am Canadian and inherently polite (unlike you and your self-entitled nation who seems to think everyone shuold thank you for something or other), I didn't "fix" the swears.PS: Everyone is sick of your BS attitude. Grow the **** up. You're not in college any more.

[iZuma 764]

luckily for you america's military power keeps you safe enough for you to post that rant

[FCP Bob 1,312]

Danny, you have said multiple things in your last couple posts about Immigration to Canada, getting health care, what Toronto and Vancouver are like that are just plain wrong.If somebody is a Landed Immigrant to Canada in the country on an Immigration Visa they get full health care benefits after being in Canada for 3 months. Basically somebody who is a Landed Immigrant has the same rights as citizens except they can't vote and they don't get a Canadian Passport. It also takes very little time to be eligible for Citizenship.A Canadian can visit the US for up to 6 months without a Visa as long as they aren't working or going to school. To do either of those things requires a Visa. The same goes for an American who visits Canada. The reason is the law in the country being visited not the country of citizenship of the visitor.

[Mercury69 3]

luckily for you america's military power keeps you safe enough for you to post that rant

Yeah, maybe lol

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Danny, you have said multiple things in your last couple posts about Immigration to Canada, getting health care, what Toronto and Vancouver are like that are just plain wrong.If somebody is a Landed Immigrant to Canada in the country on an Immigration Visa they get full health care benefits after being in Canada for 3 months. Basically somebody who is a Landed Immigrant has the same rights as citizens except they can't vote and they don't get a Canadian Passport. It also takes very little time to be eligible for Citizenship.A Canadian can visit the US for up to 6 months without a Visa as long as they aren't working or going to school. To do either of those things requires a Visa. The same goes for an American who visits Canada. The reason is the law in the country being visited not the country of citizenship of the visitor.

Dude.I've worked short term in Canada. Getting across the border even for a one or two day Business meeting is difficult and may result in you being sent back. Working for even a brief period is next to impossible. Gaining Landed Immigrant status is insanely difficult. Even something simple like a band wanting to play a gig for a night at a bar requires so much hassle it is literally not worth it. I know these things for fact from real life experience.

[irishguy 14]

I love the bashing of our military-we don't set out to be a powerhouse, but to label our military as weak or unskilled is laughable. Currently at atleast three locations in Canada there are American military being trained by our military on top of that there are other troups both here and in the u.s.a that are involved in long termed joint training programs. While my brother was in Afghanistan searching for I.E.D's there were countless operations run jointly between our countries (more often then not our guys were in command). So while yes you're Army may be tougher then ours (my dad can beat your dad up) and its cute to troll and mock, soldiers like my brother stood side by side with U.S soldiers, watched their friends die, and while came back accomodated came back changed...

[FCP Bob 1,312]

Dude.I've worked short term in Canada. Getting across the border even for a one or two day Business meeting is difficult and may result in you being sent back. Working for even a brief period is next to impossible. Gaining Landed Immigrant status is insanely difficult. Even something simple like a band wanting to play a gig for a night at a bar requires so much hassle it is literally not worth it. I know these things for fact from real life experience.

Tell the truth you tried to bring your gun over didn't you.All kidding aside nothing I said contradicts what your experience is.I was talking about people who are landed immigrants. Once somebody is a landed immigrant we treat them very well and fairly. I know first hand how the whole process works.For professionals through the Canada - US Free Trade Agreement it isn't hard to get a visa to work in Canada for an American or for a Canadian in the US. If you aren't one of the classes covered by the Free Trade Agreement it isn't an easy process.We're two different countries and we sometimes forget that.One thing people need to remember is that if you have a criminal record you aren't eligible to come into Canada. That DUI from 10 years ago or that assault conviction from a bar fight when you were 22 can get you refused from coming into the country.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

I love the bashing of our military-we don't set out to be a powerhouse, but to label our military as weak or unskilled is laughable. Currently at atleast three locations in Canada there are American military being trained by our military on top of that there are other troups both here and in the u.s.a that are involved in long termed joint training programs. While my brother was in Afghanistan searching for I.E.D's there were countless operations run jointly between our countries (more often then not our guys were in command). So while yes you're Army may be tougher then ours (my dad can beat your dad up) and its cute to troll and mock, soldiers like my brother stood side by side with U.S soldiers, watched their friends die, and while came back accomodated came back changed...

Canada spends the 14th most in the World on defense which is probably about right, it's just that the US spends more than all other countries put together.We don't have a large military but since it's a very professional one with most of soldiers serving long term they don't take a back seat to anybody one on one.My Brother also was in the Armed Forces but over 30 years ago when he was in the Airborne Regiment who were the elite of the Canadian Forces. Thankfully he never had to see combat.

[mrdannyg 274]

Danny, you have said multiple things in your last couple posts about Immigration to Canada, getting health care, what Toronto and Vancouver are like that are just plain wrong.If somebody is a Landed Immigrant to Canada in the country on an Immigration Visa they get full health care benefits after being in Canada for 3 months. Basically somebody who is a Landed Immigrant has the same rights as citizens except they can't vote and they don't get a Canadian Passport. It also takes very little time to be eligible for Citizenship.A Canadian can visit the US for up to 6 months without a Visa as long as they aren't working or going to school. To do either of those things requires a Visa. The same goes for an American who visits Canada. The reason is the law in the country being visited not the country of citizenship of the visitor.

From your post, I don't see how anything I said was wrong, with the exception of your correction on health care for landed immigrants. As POR points out, getting that status is very difficult. I'm pretty sure refugees and people on student/work visas have difficulties as I described.It may take very little time to be eligible for citizenship as a landed immigrant, but the process takes forever, and most people are not easily accepted as landed immigrants unless they have highly marketable skills and/or money.As for the 6-month rule, I'm not expert on the matter, but Canada does have regulations as to how much time you can spend out of the country while still retaining your rights. Pretty sure you need 6 months a year in Canada to keep your health care, among other things.

[brvheart 1,752]

I love the bashing of our military-we don't set out to be a powerhouse, but to label our military as weak or unskilled is laughable. Currently at atleast three locations in Canada there are American military being trained by our military on top of that there are other troups both here and in the u.s.a that are involved in long termed joint training programs. While my brother was in Afghanistan searching for I.E.D's there were countless operations run jointly between our countries (more often then not our guys were in command). So while yes you're Army may be tougher then ours (my dad can beat your dad up) and its cute to troll and mock, soldiers like my brother stood side by side with U.S soldiers, watched their friends die, and while came back accomodated came back changed...

LoL

[FCP Bob 1,312]

From your post, I don't see how anything I said was wrong, with the exception of your correction on health care for landed immigrants. As POR points out, getting that status is very difficult. I'm pretty sure refugees and people on student/work visas have difficulties as I described.It may take very little time to be eligible for citizenship as a landed immigrant, but the process takes forever, and most people are not easily accepted as landed immigrants unless they have highly marketable skills and/or money.As for the 6-month rule, I'm not expert on the matter, but Canada does have regulations as to how much time you can spend out of the country while still retaining your rights. Pretty sure you need 6 months a year in Canada to keep your health care, among other things.

Refugees are actually treated better than landed immigrants while their case is being processed. They get health care right away and don't have to wait the 3 months. If their refugee claim is accepted then they are given landed immigrant's rights and their days in Canada needed to become a citizen start from when they first came to Canada not when their refugee claim was accepted.Somebody who is in Canada on a Student Visa is given special treatment if they want to apply for permanent immigration status.You are correct that if you're gone from your Province for more than 6 months you lose your right to health care and when you come back to your Province you have to wait 3 months before getting it back. That would be true whether you were leaving your Province for another country or just staying in a different Province in Canada.You were correct that spending more than 6 months in the US can create tax issues since the US will now consider you an American resident for tax purposes and tax you on your worldwide income. There are tax treaties in place to cover those issues though.

[Pot Odds RAC 23]

Tell the truth you tried to bring your gun over didn't you....

Lol.

[FCP Bob 1,312]

LoL

158 Canadian soldier's who were killed in Afghanistan had their bodies driven less than one mile from where I live along the Highway of Heroes so I'm glad you got a laugh at that post.I'm guessing that the JTF2 of the Canadain Forces have done as much or more fighting as any unit in Afghanistanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Task_Force_2

[akoff 0]

Everyone needs to relax...nobody cares who is tougher (not that it matters) I know many good Canadians, they like beer (good thing) and hockey (its cold so what the hell) all in all they are good people. Besides there are enough important issues for you to worry about, like is the NHL going to be able to stay there in the long term. You can keep the socialist parts of your pretty but very cold land, we'll continue to let the rich folks from CA who want quality healthcare treatment to come down here and pay for it!! as long as you don't do anything stupid we will always be great friends...we'll continue to do stupid things because our people vote for Democrats and they can't help it. Any chance we could trade you Cane, a bucket of frozen pucks and a composite stick for a pallet of Molson? it seems like a fair trade, he will have the healthcare he needs and we'll have one less lawyer!

[brvheart 1,752]

158 Canadian soldier's who were killed in Afghanistan had their bodies driven less than one mile from where I live along the Highway of Heroes so I'm glad you got a laugh at that post.I'm guessing that the JTF2 of the Canadain Forces have done as much or more fighting as any unit in Afghanistanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Task_Force_2

Whatever, Bob. You know full well I wasn't marginalizing deaths or military service at all.

[CaneBrain 95]

Everyone needs to relax...nobody cares who is tougher (not that it matters) I know many good Canadians, they like beer (good thing) and hockey (its cold so what the hell) all in all they are good people. Besides there are enough important issues for you to worry about, like is the NHL going to be able to stay there in the long term. You can keep the socialist parts of your pretty but very cold land, we'll continue to let the rich folks from CA who want quality healthcare treatment to come down here and pay for it!! as long as you don't do anything stupid we will always be great friends...we'll continue to do stupid things because our people vote for Democrats and they can't help it. Any chance we could trade you Cane, a bucket of frozen pucks and a composite stick for a pallet of Molson? it seems like a fair trade, he will have the healthcare he needs and we'll have one less lawyer!

I'd move to Vancouver if they'd have me. Great city. Hey guys, look! Brvheart totally was kidding about things he posted again.

[akoff 0]

158 Canadian soldier's who were killed in Afghanistan had their bodies driven less than one mile from where I live along the Highway of Heroes so I'm glad you got a laugh at that post.I'm guessing that the JTF2 of the Canadain Forces have done as much or more fighting as any unit in Afghanistanhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_Task_Force_2

how am i going to take link from serious when you claim to win a war before your country was formed....seriously i would never joke about soldiers, regardless of what ever may be argued over brothers in arms should be universally thanked.

[Mercury69 3]

Whatever, Bob. You know full well I wasn't marginalizing deaths or military service at all.

Then how about explaining your "lol". It looked pretty crass on the surface and I think we all know how things can get misinterpreted on the net, yet you didn't elaborate and expect everyone to understand?

[mrdannyg 274]

Refugees are actually treated better than landed immigrants while their case is being processed. They get health care right away and don't have to wait the 3 months. If their refugee claim is accepted then they are given landed immigrant's rights and their days in Canada needed to become a citizen start from when they first came to Canada not when their refugee claim was accepted.Somebody who is in Canada on a Student Visa is given special treatment if they want to apply for permanent immigration status.You are correct that if you're gone from your Province for more than 6 months you lose your right to health care and when you come back to your Province you have to wait 3 months before getting it back. That would be true whether you were leaving your Province for another country or just staying in a different Province in Canada.You were correct that spending more than 6 months in the US can create tax issues since the US will now consider you an American resident for tax purposes and tax you on your worldwide income. There are tax treaties in place to cover those issues though.

Fine, know stuff. See if I care. The "special treatment" is still awful of course, and takes many years, but I accept your corrections on the refugee status and your clarifications on health care for citizens.Doesn't change the very difficult and lengthy process for anyone to receive citizenship, or for refugees to be certified as such of course.

[brvheart 1,752]

Hey guys, look! Brvheart totally was kidding about things he posted again.

Sad.

[CaneBrain 95]

Sad.

It's a thing now.

[BaseJester 1]

LoL

I don't get it.

[DJ Vu 176]

Lots of Love, obviously. Brvheart has nothing but Love for soldiers. Capital L.

[brvheart 1,752]

It's a thing now.

I wasn't "kidding" about anything, because I didn't say anything.

Then how about explaining your "lol". It looked pretty crass on the surface and I think we all know how things can get misinterpreted on the net, yet you didn't elaborate and expect everyone to understand?

Irish dudes post wasn't: "Our guys are dying and our military service is military service, and it hurts my feelings when it's marginalized. The men who gave their lives were just driven down the Highway of Heroes and it was moving."Had he said that, then I wouldn't have said "LoL".What he actually said: "countless operations run jointly between our countries (more often then not our guys were in command)."That will always get an "LoL" from me. Because he threw that in to marginalize the US forces, which is exactly what made him mad in the first place.The way he worded "Jointly" was pretty funny too, considering Canada didn't send any troops to Iraq and they've only had anywhere from 900 to 3000 troops in Afghanistan (depending where you look). Compare that to our 1/4 of a million troops, and I'm not sure if his wording is specific enough. I am in no way complaining about troops levels that Canada sent. I don't care about any other countries fighting over there. As far as I'm concerned it's not their fight anyway, however, as an American I appreciate the sacrifices that were made on behalf of freedom/suppressing tyranny.However, again, looking at the troop levels, I think saying that "more often that not" 3000 troops were in charge of 250,000 is "LoL".You could then look at "operations" and his definition of "countless" and how that compares to the total number of other countless missions that no Canadian was a part of, but that's too much work.Also, JJJ is right. I have lots of love for troops from every country. Just thinking about kids from Canada dying, because Muslim's are insane, makes me well up with tears.

[BaseJester 1]

I wasn't "kidding" about anything, because I didn't say anything.Irish dudes post wasn't: "Our guys are dying and our military service is military service, and it hurts my feelings when it's marginalized. The men who gave their lives were just driven down the Highway of Heroes and it was moving."Had he said that, then I wouldn't have said "LoL".What he actually said: "countless operations run jointly between our countries (more often then not our guys were in command)."That will always get an "LoL" from me. Because he threw that in to marginalize the US forces, which is exactly what made him mad in the first place.The way he worded "Jointly" was pretty funny too, considering Canada didn't send any troops to Iraq and they've only had anywhere from 900 to 3000 troops in Afghanistan (depending where you look). Compare that to our 1/4 of a million troops, and I'm not sure if his wording is specific enough. I am in no way complaining about troops levels that Canada sent. I don't care about any other countries fighting over there. As far as I'm concerned it's not their fight anyway, however, as an American I appreciate the sacrifices that were made on behalf of freedom/suppressing tyranny.However, again, looking at the troop levels, I think saying that "more often that not" 3000 troops were in charge of 250,000 is "LoL".You could then look at "operations" and his definition of "countless" and how that compares to the total number of other countless missions that no Canadian was a part of, but that's too much work.

lol