DiamondDixie 12 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Have any of you seen the Bodog updates? Players are now anonymous, they only have a random or seat number assigned to them so you have no idea who you are playing. Everything else seems like an improvement but this is just ridiculous. I was actually thinking of putting some money on there in a couple of weeks, oh well! Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted December 1, 2011 Share Posted December 1, 2011 Initially not particularly a fan of the idea and it opens up a host of potential problems, but time will tell.Tip: Don't turn off animation. There's a bug that makes it unplayable if you do. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 It's an interesting move.Bodog basically doesn't want winning professional players. Considering that they're mostly a Sportsbook and Casino as opposed to a poker site this makes perfect sense.In poker the player who rakes the most is not the most valuable player to a network or stand alone site. Depositing recreational players are the valuable ones.I don't know if anonymous tables are the way to go however.http://calvinayre.com/2011/12/01/poker/jon...oftware-update/ We have decided to introduce Anonymous Tables across all tables, both cash game and tournament tables. This is perfectly in line with Bodog Recreational Poker Model, our strategy of focusing on net depositing players. The anonymity will protect them by creating a more level playing field. This will mean that net depositing players get more entertainment for their money which will increase player retention. Player tracker tools and HUD’s are net depositing players’ biggest enemy, and we are now effectively stopping these from ever working on our software again. We will lose some users of these tools but that is only going to create a better environment for the net depositing players who are actually the ones generating the revenue through their deposits. In the poker forums (winning) players are furious which I can understand—like most predators they are not the best suited to look after an eco-system. Link to post Share on other sites
Shark527 0 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 So Bodog is still active for US players? I havn't been on here in a few months and was interested because a coworker said he plays poker on there, although he uses the site mostly for sports betting. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 So Bodog is still active for US players?Yes. Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 I see his point about protecting the fish, errr I mean net depositing players but I think they missed a big issue and that's that most recreational players love to have cute usernames and cute avatars. They also love to play against big name players, be they pro or just popular online players. Look at how fast a table will fill up if Daniel sits down at a low stakes game. These guys are perfectly aware that Daniel can out play them but they love being able to say they played with him. If they're lucky enough to get to a table with a pro in an MTT and get even luckier to knock that pro out it makes their whole year. Think about it, who does the most chatting at the tables? It's not the winning players it's the recreational players. They're the ones who are also saying "hi shyt4brains, you been winning lately" when they sit down with someone they've played a lot. This change totally removes all the social aspect from the online game and it's that aspect that recreational players like the most. Recreational players also have a fear of the unknown and are already suspicious of playing against a "computer" in the first place so this anonymity will only increase those fears. As many has mention on 2p2 and P5s this seems to make it much easier for collusion and bots to run rampant. I think Bodog's primary goal is to rid themselves of pesky winning players and I imagine they'll succeed but the fish will leave too. Big mistake imo! Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I see his point about protecting the fish, errr I mean net depositing players but I think they missed a big issue and that's that most recreational players love to have cute usernames and cute avatars. They also love to play against big name players, be they pro or just popular online players. Look at how fast a table will fill up if Daniel sits down at a low stakes game. These guys are perfectly aware that Daniel can out play them but they love being able to say they played with him. If they're lucky enough to get to a table with a pro in an MTT and get even luckier to knock that pro out it makes their whole year. Think about it, who does the most chatting at the tables? It's not the winning players it's the recreational players. They're the ones who are also saying "hi shyt4brains, you been winning lately" when they sit down with someone they've played a lot. This change totally removes all the social aspect from the online game and it's that aspect that recreational players like the most. Recreational players also have a fear of the unknown and are already suspicious of playing against a "computer" in the first place so this anonymity will only increase those fears. As many has mention on 2p2 and P5s this seems to make it much easier for collusion and bots to run rampant. I think Bodog's primary goal is to rid themselves of pesky winning players and I imagine they'll succeed but the fish will leave too. Big mistake imo!Some of the users in the 2+2 thread (several hundred posts in the span of days) have suggested that they implement "random" names/avatars when someone sits down at a table. The player would be anonymous, but they'd at least have more than just a number associated with them for their duration at the table. It would also be helpful to stop ratholing. Link to post Share on other sites
govikes 0 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Another thing I don't like is that once you leave a table, you can instantly sit back down with a lesser/different amount than what you left with. I think this could especially be an advantage in heads up play. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It seems that the tables aren't so anonymoushttp://www.pokeraddict.net/bodog-poker-warning/ Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 It seems that the tables aren't so anonymoushttp://www.pokeraddict.net/bodog-poker-warning/ Yeah, that's not good news.Here's the original blog post about it...http://www.hhsmithy.com/blog/bodogs-all-an...ough-obscurity/ Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yeah, that's not good news.Here's the original blog post about it...http://www.hhsmithy.com/blog/bodogs-all-an...ough-obscurity/ I'm continually amazed that they're aren't grown-ups in these jobs. That's just stupid to send the secret data to the client. Link to post Share on other sites
Jam-Fly 8 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'm continually amazed that they're aren't grown-ups in these jobs. That's just stupid to send the secret data to the client.is it easy to fix this? or would it require a full software overhaul etc.? Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted December 6, 2011 Share Posted December 6, 2011 is it easy to fix this? or would it require a full software overhaul etc.?Probably not the easiest fix from what I'm reading...and hard to trust the programming ability over there at this point.I'd guess that a temporary step they could take would be to disable logging in with account numbers (and require e-mail/username instead). That wouldn't be a long-term solution, but it would stop account numbers from being abused. Link to post Share on other sites
Yoda 1 Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I hate this change, and the new software in general (lot of bugs). But i've also made a quick easy $300 in 2 sessions at .50-1 so, maybe I like it? The players on bodog still seem just as bad! Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 this is the only site i currently play on...and i just updated 5 minutes ago as i was on vaca...seriously...WTF indeed!? i am so pissed Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 this is the only site i currently play on...and i just updated 5 minutes ago as i was on vaca...seriously...WTF indeed!? i am so pissedoh hi there Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 oh hi there hey, how is it going? (hi) Link to post Share on other sites
K_dense 3 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I cant even log in tonight... i wonder if this is due to increased traffic , or a crap server. anyone know? Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted December 15, 2011 Author Share Posted December 15, 2011 Merge FTW! Unless you're actually good at poker, if so just say on Bodog! :-) Link to post Share on other sites
K_dense 3 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 Merge FTW! Unless you're actually good at poker, if so just say on Bodog! :-)Diamond , i am not sure what ftw means. I have actually switched over to Bovada , username is - player 3 ... look me up Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted December 15, 2011 Share Posted December 15, 2011 I cant even log in tonight... i wonder if this is due to increased traffic , or a crap server. anyone know?Based on 2+2, they were having server issues last night. Seems to be fine now.Diamond , i am not sure what ftw means. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poker-foru...showtopic=64784 Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted December 17, 2011 Author Share Posted December 17, 2011 Diamond , i am not sure what ftw means. I have actually switched over to Bovada , username is - player 3 ... look me up For The Win... Link to post Share on other sites
K_dense 3 Posted December 24, 2011 Share Posted December 24, 2011 Merge FTW! Unless you're actually good at poker, if so just say on Bodog! :-)tried creating an account with Carbon. will not let me do this. Tells me that my state (Missouri) is the issue. Link to post Share on other sites
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