digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 21, 2011 Author Share Posted October 21, 2011 Good luck DaleThanks Wayne! BTW, I'm loving that "minimum 70GP" clause in our Gomez bet. If it get's close i may have to see what Tonya Harding is up to these days. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I have no experience in these cases, so wouldn't be much help. I would be cautious sending just about anything that doesn't go through lawyers, for fear of tacitly relaxing any of your rights. Was just speaking to a friend of mine getting into family law, and he says the most common error people make is that when their spouse is being non-cooperative they try to compromise or offer resolutions, and in doing so effectively promote a new agreement that is to their disadvantage. You should not need to compromise your rights in any way in an effort to convince the other party to make good on their part. Link to post Share on other sites
ajs510 122 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I would be cautious sending just about anything that doesn't go through lawyers, for fear of tacitly relaxing any of your rights.This is pretty outstanding advice. If she's lawyered up and refusing to be reasonable, you basically have to close the door on the idea that she's still the person you used to know who's capable of being reasonable when shown the light. Just identify what you want and refuse to compromise on getting it. Link to post Share on other sites
gruven 530 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 This is pretty outstanding advice. If she's lawyered up and refusing to be reasonable, you basically have to close the door on the idea that she's still the person you used to know who's capable of being reasonable when shown the light. Just identify what you want and refuse to compromise on getting it.I agree completely. I was lucky that my breakup with my boy's mom was as amicable as can be (we're still close friends as are Robyn (the new wife) and her), but I came from a family of lawyers and one of my families closest friends is a family court judge. His advice all along has been document EVERYTHING.... admit NOTHING.... and don't correspond with an ex unless your lawyer is reading it first. One email with one wrong word can cost you everything.. Link to post Share on other sites
strategy 4 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 reading through that thread has basically convinced me to never have kids, get married, etc. I don't have the whole story, but jesus christ I am so sorry to hear what this woman is putting you through. absolutely brutal. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 reading through that thread has basically convinced me to never have kids, get married, etc. I don't have the whole story, but jesus christ I am so sorry to hear what this woman is putting you through. absolutely brutal.It is not all like that. I have 3 beautiful kids with a wonderful wife. Let's just say we have been married for a very long time. Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 reading through that thread has basically convinced me to never have kids, get married, etc. I don't have the whole story, but jesus christ I am so sorry to hear what this woman is putting you through. absolutely brutal.As Wayne said it doesnt have to be that way..Unfortunately it happens. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 24, 2011 Author Share Posted October 24, 2011 Notes:- My ex's lawyer prepared this order. Basically that means she typed it up from the Judge's Endorsement Sheet as she is allowed.- My ex and her lawyer have been persistant in their quest to define my grievance settlement as a severance package. It is NOT a severance package under any meaning of the law, but whatever...- Have a close look at #6 in the Court Order my ex's lawyer typed up and then have a close look at #6 from the Judge's Endorsement Sheet.- Also, note the wording of the lawyer's letter asking me to sign and agree to form and content...She says I have 10 days from date of her letter to respond. The Family Law Rules state that I have 10 days after the order is served.The Judge indicated in his Endorsement Sheet (#1) and the lawyer even retyped it properly (#1) that I am considered served 5 days after mailing. This would mean I am considered served Oct 25 and would have 10 days from that date in which to respond.Also, note how the lawyer states that if I don't respond within 10 days that "the Order will be signed without your approval pursuant to Rule 25." Family Law Rule 25 subrule (8) states, "...it may be signed without approval." Pure slime on the lawyer's part if you ask me.Here's the link to the thread containing the info: http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/f3/form...0516/#post78065 Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Notes:- My ex's lawyer prepared this order. Basically that means she typed it up from the Judge's Endorsement Sheet as she is allowed.- My ex and her lawyer have been persistant in their quest to define my grievance settlement as a severance package. It is NOT a severance package under any meaning of the law, but whatever...- Have a close look at #6 in the Court Order my ex's lawyer typed up and then have a close look at #6 from the Judge's Endorsement Sheet.- Also, note the wording of the lawyer's letter asking me to sign and agree to form and content...She says I have 10 days from date of her letter to respond. The Family Law Rules state that I have 10 days after the order is served.The Judge indicated in his Endorsement Sheet (#1) and the lawyer even retyped it properly (#1) that I am considered served 5 days after mailing. This would mean I am considered served Oct 25 and would have 10 days from that date in which to respond.Also, note how the lawyer states that if I don't respond within 10 days that "the Order will be signed without your approval pursuant to Rule 25." Family Law Rule 25 subrule (8) states, "...it may be signed without approval." Pure slime on the lawyer's part if you ask me.Here's the link to the thread containing the info: http://www.ottawadivorce.com/forum/f3/form...0516/#post78065 Awful awful shit. Gotta wonder how lawyers like this go home and night and actually think they're living a good life. Note the phrase "lawyers like this" - there are lots of good lawyers out there Keep examples like this, with all source material. I'm no lawyery expert, but there are some ways you can show the other party to be acting 'not in good faith', and it'll effectively put an increased responsibility on them in regards to disclosure, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 You need Harvey Spector. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 You need Harvey Spector.I'm thinking Saul Goodman Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm thinking Saul GoodmanI'm breaking bad, but I'm turning into Saul. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Damn Dale. Let's hope it gets better real soon. Link to post Share on other sites
XXEddie 0 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm thinking Saul GoodmanA+In all seriousness, best of luck. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Damn Dale. Let's hope it gets better real soon.Thanks.I'm gathering evidence to support my case in the event that she wants to be a part of the 4% that makes it to a trial. I think, like Dan indicates, actions such as the one above and the one where they filed a contempt motion against me (and got it) claiming I didn't file a Financial Statement, or copies of my income tax returns or pay stubs...when I DID file a Financial Statement, COULDN'T provide my tax info because my ex-wife wouldn't provide me with the tax info I needed to complete my taxes despite numerous requests (which I have documented and saved in emails, texts and even a Facebook convo between my ex and my mother), and I was NEVER ordered to submit pay stubs...I was ordered to provide income info, which I did in my financial statement...actions like that support my belief that they are acting in anything but "good faith" despite their cookie-cutter paragraph that always mentions how they wish to solve this matter amicably. It's actually quite comical when I can step back from it once every blue moon. I may also bring up the fact that they continue to let FRO (Family Responsibility Office) act on the original Order and collect the arrears even though the information that FRO is acting on is incorrect and my ex and her lawyer both know it. My ex and her lawyer are claiming in the Order that FRO is acting on that I am in arrears an amount of over $16,000.00. However, at the latest uncontested hearing (this was the second uncontested hearing...I attended this one. I didn't know about the first one) my ex's lawyer submitted a letter to the court (and me...self repping) that claimed the arrears were $10,000.00+. My claim is that I don't owe any arrears. Based on evidence such as, my ex's contradictions on at least two different court documents including sworn affidavits, case law concerning retroactive support claims, the amount of time I spend with the kids and the items/activities for which I've paid) I think I have a strong case so I'm hoping and putting in a great effort to encourage things to get better real soon.The chapters of my future book are unfolding P.S. I also have email exchanges with my ex in which I have informed her of our current financial situation and have asked her to Consent to Withdraw the motion FRO is acting upon. To this date, she has refused. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 COULDN'T provide my tax info because my ex-wife wouldn't provide me with the tax info I needed to complete my taxesYou know I have heard this from tax client. We did screw his ex over when I file tax adjustments after their divorce was over. He got a $7k refund because she did his taxes incorrectly in the past.As you know, the door is always open if you want any tax advice. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 You need Harvey Spector. I'm thinking Saul GoodmanDon't know Saul, but Harvey is pretty awesome... Link to post Share on other sites
Zach6668 513 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Don't know Saul, but Harvey is pretty awesome...I have trouble deciding which girl is hotter on that show, the brunette paralegal, or the red head assistant. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have trouble deciding which girl is hotter on that show, the brunette paralegal, or the red head assistant.I always had a thing for red heads Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I always had a thing for red headsJust announced that Lindsay Lohan will be posing for Playboy.Thats good for you. Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Just announced that Lindsay Lohan will be posing for Playboy.Thats good for you.LOL I will pass Link to post Share on other sites
serge 904 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 LOL I will passShe used to be really hot..She has been through a lot, you think she is 45..She is only 25.. Link to post Share on other sites
Mercury69 3 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I have trouble deciding which girl is hotter on that show, the brunette paralegal, or the red head assistant.Why choose? There's ample fantasy room in your brain for more than one hockey pool. Why not for women, too?I always had a thing for red headsYes, me too, but not Lindsay Lohan and her freckly funbags Link to post Share on other sites
Babying 613 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Why choose? There's ample fantasy room in your brain for more than one hockey pool. Why not for women, too?Yes, me too, but not Lindsay Lohan and her freckly funbags Nice way of putting it into words Link to post Share on other sites
pezeveng 207 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Shit Dale that's alot of BS you are going through I hope all ends up well.One word of advice being the paranoid freak I am, I think this thread should get erased because I am sure your ex knows about this site and if she knows the handle Digital Monkey this thread is even easier to come across.Best of Luck with everything, you're a good guy and deserve better than the crap handed to you. Link to post Share on other sites
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