Adam's Extreme Fcp Yahoo League 2011-12

[serge 904]

You made it a money league and I rarely play fantasy sports for money. FCHL/FCBL are the only ones of the many fantasy leagues I play where money is involved and I would still take each one seriously if they were not money leagues. Unlike serge I don't have delusions of grandeur and think I will win each year so it is essentially a waste of money for me. Plus Andre. I did play on 09/10 though.

Your comments of delusions of grandeur are uncalled for..My delusions arent that grand..Semi grand..Like an Apple Pie

[ajs510 122]

You made it a money league and I rarely play fantasy sports for money. FCHL/FCBL are the only ones of the many fantasy leagues I play where money is involved and I would still take each one seriously if they were not money leagues. Unlike serge I don't have delusions of grandeur and think I will win each year so it is essentially a waste of money for me. Plus Andre. I did play on 09/10 though.

I made it a money league for a couple reasons, 1, because the majority wanted it, and 2, because the money aspect keeps people committed all season long whereas in the first couple years of the league I had tons of people crapping out on their teams midseason because things weren't going well.

[SBriand 4]

I made it a money league for a couple reasons, 1, because the majority wanted it, and 2, because the money aspect keeps people committed all season long whereas in the first couple years of the league I had tons of people crapping out on their teams midseason because things weren't going well.

Oh, don't get me wrong, I completely understood why it became a money league. I am not angry or resentful, just explaining why I stopped playing. I am cheap, there is no two ways about it. I don't necessarily enjoy being cheap as I miss out on a lot of fun at times but it is just who I am based on experiences I have had in life.

[MapleLeafpoker 1,462]

Plus Andre.

ok seriously, how good is this guy? I'm noticing his obvious success in FCBL, but come on, its baseball.

[ajs510 122]

ok seriously, how good is this guy? I'm noticing his obvious success in FCBL, but come one, its baseball.

He's very, very good at fantasy sports. Drafts well, amends his teams well, I think he's won the pool outright twice and seems to make the playoffs every year.

[serge 904]

Standard deviation says Andre wont do well this year..As a matter of fact I will bet my team against his +4 spots...Meaning I get 4 spots(ie if I finish 5th he finishes 2rd I WIN)I will offer this bet for $20 to the first three posters

[runthemover 39]

RE: 2 more participantsStrategy used to be in the league, right?FCP Bob is the only other regular I can think of who has not dropped out or rejected.

[MapleLeafpoker 1,462]

FCP Bob is the only other regular I can think of who has not dropped out or rejected.

I dont think he does hockey pools, other than ones he already has an all-star base built up in from long ago.I keep inviting him to my draft....no luck.

[ajs510 122]

RE: 2 more participantsStrategy used to be in the league, right?FCP Bob is the only other regular I can think of who has not dropped out or rejected.

I reached out to everyone in the FCHL on our site to see if anyone who hadn't noticed the "advertisement" for a new GM over here, but there was no interest. That rules out Strat, Steve and Ollie who used to be in the league and have dropped. Was hoping Chris would have some interest but he didn't respond to any of the ads for GMs, I knew Bob wouldn't be interested. Unless two guys step up together and say they're in, it's gonna be 14 teams this year I'm afraid.

[serge 904]

I dont think he does hockey pools, other than ones he already has an all-star base built up in from long ago.I keep inviting him to my draft....no luck.

Bob's answer is he doesnt like to gamble.

[Underdog 10]

Well last year was my first year and i finished in the money 3rd. This year i guess i should just win then.

[ajs510 122]

Teams paid to date: Ingmen, GoBears, Juicy Couture, Corona Ice Kings, Vlamateurs, Canadian Gothic, Mustangs, Retirement Contracts, Mercury Canadiens, Broadway.

Still looking for payments from the remaining teams...when they have a moment.

[Mercury69 3]

I am looking forward to this. It will be an initiation into Roto hockey and for a very reasonable tuition. I will not posture about where I will finish, at least until I have my team. then we shall see.

[ajs510 122]

I am looking forward to this. It will be an initiation into Roto hockey and for a very reasonable tuition. I will not posture about where I will finish, at least until I have my team. then we shall see.

It's not Roto hockey though, we play Head to Head. I HATE Roto hockey...I'm always out of games for my players by the end of the year.

[Dubey 1,035]

I'm going to give you a hint, since last year was my first time, and nobody gave me any pointers, and I sucked horribly:Goaltending is really important in this league. I think we start 20ish skaters and 2 goalies. goalies make up about half of the scoring categories. With 16 teams, not everybody is going to have 2 starters. The teams that do, are going to have a pretty good advantage. Don't wait too long on your starting goalies.

[Dubey 1,035]

It's not Roto hockey though, we play Head to Head. I HATE Roto hockey...I'm always out of games for my players by the end of the year.

It is roto style scoring though.

[Babying 613]

I'm going to give you a hint, since last year was my first time, and nobody gave me any pointers, and I sucked horribly:Goaltending is really important in this league. I think we start 20ish skaters and 2 goalies. goalies make up about half of the scoring categories. With 16 teams, not everybody is going to have 2 starters. The teams that do, are going to have a pretty good advantage. Don't wait too long on your starting goalies.

Will agree with Dave. My 1st year (actually 2nd since I was on autopick the 1st year) too and did not realize the importance of Goaltending.Will not make the same mistake.

[Belanger25 3]

I'm going to give you a hint, since last year was my first time, and nobody gave me any pointers, and I sucked horribly:Goaltending is really important in this league. I think we start 20ish skaters and 2 goalies. goalies make up about half of the scoring categories. With 16 teams, not everybody is going to have 2 starters. The teams that do, are going to have a pretty good advantage. Don't wait too long on your starting goalies.

I disagree, you need a decent goaltender and not an amazing goalie. Yes there are advantages to having a Luongo or a Thomas but you need to have 2 decent goalies(Preferably starters) and one back up. The problem is some people try to win the goalie stats so ****ing badly they draft 5 goalies. You don't need 5 goalies and people still don't understand that. If you waste too many picks are goalies and early.I know you can have this argument with Andre having 4 goalies last year and won(But his lowest scoring player had 26 points), but lets look at some of the worst teams(Not counting the last place team due to him not really playing, note also using total points not finished after playoffs).In 15th place The Ingman had four goalies,LuongoBudajRaskRaycroftLuongo is obviously your best goalie. With a two goalie minimum and a starter Luongo you don't need much to win at least two of the stats. Maybe you'll sacrifice W/SV/GS but you're probably going to win SV% and GAA if you just have the two categories and then you hope you get at best a tie in the shutout.In 14th place, runthemover had three goalies,EllisTheodoreLawsonWell these three just suck. This I understand.In 13th place, Newmarket Hurricanes with six goalies,DiPietroEmeryMontoyaNeuvirthNiittymakiVokounAgain too many ****ing goalies, because of this you cannot field enough skaters. You can only play 2 goalies a night and if you have 4 starters well then you're just screwed here.12th place Dev's~Bam with four goalies.BryzgalovClemmensenLaBarberaHedbergNot a bad group with the leader Bryz, but holding too many goalies does hurt a bit. Also what I think hurt more is he had guys like Nick Backstrom who didn't have a good year offensively.11th place The Mustangs with five goaliesQuickGiguereGustafssonReimerJohnsonWell there's a whole lot of wrong here, like having three Toronto Maple Leafs goalies(That's a death wish), and having three goalies from the same team! Now you're guaranteed to waste a roster spot each night because of having the three goalies. It's just awful, it's a waste.10th place Canadian Gothic with three goaliesTurcoFleuryBoucherHere's where the tactic unfortunately went south for Dale. He made the right move getting three goalies and getting what at the time in Chicago would have been considered to be the starting goalie in Marty Turco. When Crawford takes over for Turco it leaves Dale in the worst position possible. What also hurts Dale tremendously, is when his best player is Sidney Crosby.9th place Broadway with two goaliesHowardVarlomovIf he had another goalie he'd probably be in a lot better shape, but when some teams have 6. fricken goalies.I know you can make the argument for both sides here but it's more important to have a better offense. I finished in 6th place last year with a tandem of Roloson, Mason and Garon. Now those aren't the best three goalies but I somehow finished one point out of a playoff spot. A lot of people still believe that in order to win the key is having five goaltenders, and it's not the right method. Considering we have 16 teams in this league everyone could conceivably have three goalies and we;d have some on waivers in case someone does go down with an injury but for some reason it just cannot happen because people blow their load on a goalie, and then get 6 of them.

[serge 904]

I disagree, you need a decent goaltender and not an amazing goalie. Yes there are advantages to having a Luongo or a Thomas but you need to have 2 decent goalies(Preferably starters) and one back up. The problem is some people try to win the goalie stats so ****ing badly they draft 5 goalies. You don't need 5 goalies and people still don't understand that. If you waste too many picks are goalies and early.I know you can have this argument with Andre having 4 goalies last year and won(But his lowest scoring player had 26 points), but lets look at some of the worst teams(Not counting the last place team due to him not really playing, note also using total points not finished after playoffs).In 15th place The Ingman had four goalies,LuongoBudajRaskRaycroftLuongo is obviously your best goalie. With a two goalie minimum and a starter Luongo you don't need much to win at least two of the stats. Maybe you'll sacrifice W/SV/GS but you're probably going to win SV% and GAA if you just have the two categories and then you hope you get at best a tie in the shutout.In 14th place, runthemover had three goalies,EllisTheodoreLawsonWell these three just suck. This I understand.In 13th place, Newmarket Hurricanes with six goalies,DiPietroEmeryMontoyaNeuvirthNiittymakiVokounAgain too many ****ing goalies, because of this you cannot field enough skaters. You can only play 2 goalies a night and if you have 4 starters well then you're just screwed here.12th place Dev's~Bam with four goalies.BryzgalovClemmensenLaBarberaHedbergNot a bad group with the leader Bryz, but holding too many goalies does hurt a bit. Also what I think hurt more is he had guys like Nick Backstrom who didn't have a good year offensively.11th place The Mustangs with five goaliesQuickGiguereGustafssonReimerJohnsonWell there's a whole lot of wrong here, like having three Toronto Maple Leafs goalies(That's a death wish), and having three goalies from the same team! Now you're guaranteed to waste a roster spot each night because of having the three goalies. It's just awful, it's a waste.10th place Canadian Gothic with three goaliesTurcoFleuryBoucherHere's where the tactic unfortunately went south for Dale. He made the right move getting three goalies and getting what at the time in Chicago would have been considered to be the starting goalie in Marty Turco. When Crawford takes over for Turco it leaves Dale in the worst position possible. What also hurts Dale tremendously, is when his best player is Sidney Crosby.9th place Broadway with two goaliesHowardVarlomovIf he had another goalie he'd probably be in a lot better shape, but when some teams have 6. fricken goalies.I know you can make the argument for both sides here but it's more important to have a better offense. I finished in 6th place last year with a tandem of Roloson, Mason and Garon. Now those aren't the best three goalies but I somehow finished one point out of a playoff spot. A lot of people still believe that in order to win the key is having five goaltenders, and it's not the right method. Considering we have 16 teams in this league everyone could conceivably have three goalies and we;d have some on waivers in case someone does go down with an injury but for some reason it just cannot happen because people blow their load on a goalie, and then get 6 of them.

Your argument is good, however the reason to "handcuff" one of your goalies is pretty obvious..Its very difficult to predict sometimes which goalie will play...If you have a team like the Leafs last year who didnt have a clear number one, unless you are by the computer all day you will miss times where your goalie starts. You can predict all you want, but its a headache..Your model also doesnt allow for injuries. Go ahead and pick 2 goodish goalies..See what happens when you have a season ending injury to one, then you are left with a 3rd string goalie...And have no shot to win anything.

[Babying 613]

I had to trade for Luongo (I am pretty sure it was DannyG, see I told you guys he is easy to deal with). Not drafting goalies early is putting you 6 feet deep in a ditch.

[Ottawa_Biatch 288]

I had to trade for Luongo (I am pretty sure it was DannyG, see I told you guys he is easy to deal with). Not drafting goalies early is putting you 6 feet deep in a ditch.

Agreed. This guy Belanger doesn't know anything about hockey.

[serge 904]

Agreed. This guy Belanger doesn't know anything about hockey.

LOL..I would say he is definetely in the top 25 of all non NHL people in the USA..Ok maybe not, but he is very smarts in the biz

[Ottawa_Biatch 288]

LOL..I would say he is definetely in the top 25 of all non NHL people in the USA..Ok maybe not, but he is very smarts in the biz

I disagree. The guy thinks goalies don't matter. If you didn't have goalies, nobody would stop the puck. You could easily score like 100 goals a game and lose all your goalie categories.

[Dubey 1,035]

Belanger, I agree that having a bunch of goalies doesnt get you anywhere, but it is really important to have 2 bonafide starters. Given there are only about 20-25 bonafide starters in the league, and there are 16 teams in this pool.. well you get the picture.All the teams you listed had a high number of goalies, but none of them had 2 quality #1 guys.let's check the top teams:Go bears had:Ryan Miller (Drafted in the 1st round)Anti NiemmiSuper friends had:LundqvistCam WardUnderdogs had:BrodeurCory Crawford

[runthemover 39]

When I go into the draft, I want 3 goalies on my team. Before last year, where everyone goalie I drafted ended up being a total turd, I had done pretty well in the goalie department. This year is a little different with 14 teams. It should be slightly easier to get goalies.RE: "20-25 bonafide starters": I would even argue that there are about 10 goalies you'd be happy with on your team and another 10 who will get you consistent # of starts. After that you've got a mix of guys who are streaky, get you starts but allow a crap ton of goals, or have shared/backup time.It's obviously a decent advantage having more skaters and a couple quality goalies but obviously that's easily said and not easily done. Looking forward to the draft.