SilentSnow 1 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I don't think you are a fair measuring stick as to what Romney needs to do... Romney made many 'actual views' but you don't think those counted? They don't count because they were all vague generalizations or outright lies. Every politician lies, but Romney and Ryan have taken it to a whole other level. They are two of the most dishonest politicians I've ever seen. Of course this means they are the perfect Republican candidates since the core strategy of screwing over the middle class in favor of the rich is no longer sellable without blatant lying. http://www.patheos.com/blogs/slacktivist/2012/08/29/mitt-romney-tells-533-lies-in-30-weeks-steve-benen-documents-them/ Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 That was 2008 when McCain lost. I'm aware. While BG claims that even a block of concrete saw 2008 coming, there are reams of posts in the FCP archives from January to November of 2008 where conservative posters discuss at length why McCain will win. I was making separate points about 2010 and 2008. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Obama's shiny veneer has been shown to be thin and plastic. Veneers are supposed to be thin. The next one is foreign policies and Obama is going to get smashed. This is hilarious to me. I mean, Romney's best shot was in tonight's debate (both in subject matter, and in ability to hide your hand). Now that we move into a subject that Romney is especially weak in, and Obama (presumably) has some fire lit under his ass, I think we'll see a different result. If Obama does allow Romney to dominate the discussion again, though, I could be wrong. I mean, you lost money to me on the 2010 election, so I guess you're dumber than a block of concrete. LOL Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Veneers are supposed to be thin. And that's what his experience/leadership qualities/abilities are....thin This is hilarious to me. I mean, Romney's best shot was in tonight's debate (both in subject matter, and in ability to hide your hand). Now that we move into a subject that Romney is especially weak in, and Obama (presumably) has some fire lit under his ass, I think we'll see a different result. If Obama does allow Romney to dominate the discussion again, though, I could be wrong. You are, Obama has a huge gap in credibility in FP. He will be crushed. I honestly thought it was the only debate Romney would clearly win. LOL Bite me Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I mean, you lost money to me on the 2010 election, so I guess you're dumber than a block of concrete. I'd go back and post everything you, Copernicus, 85suited and many others said in the run-up to McCain getting his head kicked in but the idea of embarrassing an old man gets less and less appealing as I become a more mature person. Bite me I think everyone agreed that the first debate would be the hardest for Obama to win, not the easiest. Obama has had a monster lead on Romney on national security issues all campaign. I think that watching you get your hopes up is almost worth Obama punting the first debate. So now he threw the debate...he smirked and failed to offer anything but rhetoric that was knocked down with little effort because he wanted to lose. Well that's one way to excuse your team. I guess the Dolphins want to have a losing season in order to set up next year? Or was last years 6-11 record in order to win this one? 1-3...must be next year. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 They don't count because they were all vague generalizations or outright lies. Every politician lies, but Romney and Ryan have taken it to a whole other level. They are two of the most dishonest politicians I've ever seen. Of course this means they are the perfect Republican candidates since the core strategy of screwing over the middle class in favor of the rich is no longer sellable without blatant lying. http://www.patheos.c...documents-them/ Oh yea..Republicans take lying to a whole new level....sure they do. The middle class is to be destroyed..that's the plan. Serious question: Does the Kool Aid stain your teeth? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I said he punted the debate. If you don't know what that means, just ask. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He failed to win He lost He gave up He was unprepared He was in over his head He failed He never had a clue He sucks as a debater He is continuing his plan to bring down the country so that it can be better prepared to win later on? Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 BG, you can bash Obama and the dems all you like but BACK OFF my Dolphins. Picking on them is like picking on the retarded kid in the high school lunchroom. And nobody said he threw it on purpose, he was just bad. He can recover. And when did Romney become a foreign policy expert? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 And when did Romney become a foreign policy expert? You name somebody else with as many foreign bank accounts as he does. When The Caymen Islands threaten National Security I want Mitt taking that call at midnight. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Of course Obama has more Foreign Policy experience than Romney - He's been President for four years! How much FP experience did Obama have before he was President? He didn't have more Foreign Policy experience four years ago than McCain. Basically you're saying Obama is better qualified to be President than Romney because he was elected President four years ago. Any President needs to learn on the Job. I trust Romney to learn the job better and faster than Obama has. He brings more leadership capability than Obama did when you guys chose him. Obama had his chance to learn and still hasn't come up with detailed and implemented plans. You want details from Romney, but failed to demand the same details from Obama four years ago, or even today. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I really wish people (candidates right down to voters) would respond to what people say instead of whatever interpretation allows you to make some sort of zinger or sound bite. No one said Romney wasn't qualified to be president because Obama has 4yrs more experience in FP. You can't go on a rant about something that wasn't even said. No one said Obama threw the debate. You can't go on a rant about something that wasn't even said. It is IMPOSSIBLE to discuss anything if either side refuse to even appear to be listening to the other side. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 He failed to win He lost He gave up He was unprepared He was in over his head He failed He never had a clue He sucks as a debater He is continuing his plan to bring down the country so that it can be better prepared to win later on? True but hes black, which gets him 95 % of the black vote, and 75% of the guilt ridden white vote. Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Mexico 4,219 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 I really wish people (candidates right down to voters) would respond to what people say instead of whatever interpretation allows you to make some sort of zinger or sound bite. No one said Romney wasn't qualified to be president because Obama has 4yrs more experience in FP. You can't go on a rant about something that wasn't even said. No one said Obama threw the debate. You can't go on a rant about something that wasn't even said. It is IMPOSSIBLE to discuss anything if either side refuse to even appear to be listening to the other side. But c'mon, you gotta admit, the right does that WAY more than the left. Maher created weekly sketch about it on his tv show called "Dispatches from the bubble" And does anyone watch the Daily Show or even watch Hannity? He had Tucker Carlson on to discuss that inflammatory video of Obama blacking it up in New Orleans and basically saying the same thing Bush did to the people of New Orleans in 2005. Well, They talk about how the media didn't cover him and his liberal socialist agenda speech and Tucker actually says "...and I KNOW it hasnt been covered by the media because I covered it." Huh? Just, odd Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 But c'mon, you gotta admit, the right does that WAY more than the left. Maher created weekly sketch about it on his tv show called "Dispatches from the bubble" And does anyone watch the Daily Show or even watch Hannity? He had Tucker Carlson on to discuss that inflammatory video of Obama blacking it up in New Orleans and basically saying the same thing Bush did to the people of New Orleans in 2005. Well, They talk about how the media didn't cover him and his liberal socialist agenda speech and Tucker actually says "...and I KNOW it hasnt been covered by the media because I covered it." Huh? Just, odd I'd say this tacit is owned by the left Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid has become the chief attack dog against his co-religionist Mitt Romney, but on Wednesday that attack went even further when his official Senate office released a statement that attributed a quote to Mr. Romney, even though he said the exact opposite. Mr. Reid's release quoted the Republican presidential nominee's staff as telling the Boston Globe that Mr. Romney would "not honor deportation exemptions" that President Obama has granted under his new non-deportation policy. But that phrase doesn't appear in the Globe's article. In fact the newspaper said Mr. Romney's staff specifically "said he would honor deportation exemptions issued by the Obama administration before his inauguration," thought the staffers said a Romney administration wouldn't issue any new exemptions itself. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 4, 2012 Share Posted October 4, 2012 Don't you be beating my man up! Link to post Share on other sites
Tiltinagain 973 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 BG, you can bash Obama and the dems all you like but BACK OFF my Dolphins. Picking on them is like picking on the retarded kid in the high school lunchroom. And nobody said he threw it on purpose, he was just bad. He can recover. And when did Romney become a foreign policy expert? When did Obaba? One of the biggest digs on him during the last campaign was his almost non-existent foreign policy experience. Nobody on the left cared then. Now it's supposed to be a problem for Romney? Of course Obama has more Foreign Policy experience than Romney - He's been President for four years! How much FP experience did Obama have before he was President? He didn't have more Foreign Policy experience four years ago than McCain. Basically you're saying Obama is better qualified to be President than Romney because he was elected President four years ago. Any President needs to learn on the Job. I trust Romney to learn the job better and faster than Obama has. He brings more leadership capability than Obama did when you guys chose him. Obama had his chance to learn and still hasn't come up with detailed and implemented plans. You want details from Romney, but failed to demand the same details from Obama four years ago, or even today. This I really wish people (candidates right down to voters) would respond to what people say instead of whatever interpretation allows you to make some sort of zinger or sound bite. No one said Romney wasn't qualified to be president because Obama has 4yrs more experience in FP. You can't go on a rant about something that wasn't even said. No one said Obama threw the debate. You can't go on a rant about something that wasn't even said. It is IMPOSSIBLE to discuss anything if either side refuse to even appear to be listening to the other side. Cain said he "punted" the debate. Which means giving up and giving the ball back to the other team. Yes, it's not quite the same as "throwing" the debate, which implies intent, but the result was the same. The best part of the debate was reading Dems, including those here, dismiss Obama's ass kicking as no big deal. In the end maybe you're right. But right now, a month away from the election, it was a big deal because had Obama clearly won, it could have been the nail in Romney's coffin. If nothing else the debate got the attention of those swing and undecided voters. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 This is a poker forum, the fact that you guys don't know what punted means is sad. Punting a stack in poker means losing all your chips by playing terribly. He punted the debate because he did a terrible job. Jeez. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 This is a poker forum, the fact that you guys don't know what punted means is sad. Punting a stack in poker means losing all your chips by playing terribly. He punted the debate because he did a terrible job. Jeez. See lefties think in that term because they suck at poker... And it's well inside the NFL season..forgive me for thinking football when you say punted. Okay, Obama sucked and lost...I can accept that. I am curious if debates will actually matter and be important indicators of the person if Obama wins as big as Romney did at the next debate? Or will they not be that big a deal again? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 They'll be a bigger deal because Obama has a pretty large state by state lead....if Romney wins all three like that then it's game on. And yes Obama lost because he was crappy and boring. And because he ended up debating 2003 Mitt Romney instead of the 2012 guy that's been campaigning for months. Had to throw him a little. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted October 6, 2012 Share Posted October 6, 2012 Throw him? Truth is Obama is lazy. He's said it himself. He told some campaign workers that studying was a drag during his 3 day intense study. But what is there to really study? He's been president for almost 4 years. Shouldn't he know his plans and his record? Sure some details,but an overall view of what he wants should be no harder than Nancy Pelosi talking about botox injections. Everyday life should be known. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think knowing the issues and being good in a modern political debate are very different things. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted October 7, 2012 Share Posted October 7, 2012 I think knowing the issues and being good in a modern political debate are very different things. Methinks obama has disproved this little theory. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted October 8, 2012 Share Posted October 8, 2012 This is really great: Bartlett coaches Obama http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/opinion/sunday/dowd-two-presidents-smoking-and-scheming.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0 Link to post Share on other sites
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