brvheart 1,752 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 oh no, I meant, require ID to vote. not require everyone to vote. sorry, my bad.Oops. Yeah, that was my fault.The ID card wouldn't have to be a separate national card. It could just be an add-on to your driver's license or state ID card. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 i think that once the government identifies who is a legal citizen, that citizen should be tattooed (free of charge of course) with a unique identification number. i think the forearm would be a good place. it would be easy to do on babies going forward too. this would eliminate the need for useless id cards, that can be lost, stolen or even faked. Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 The difference is that none of these things are rights that are guaranteed by our democracy (except for the kids in school part).I mean, it's a bit of a thorny issue. I agree that it doesn't seem like too much of a burden to demand ID for voting. But it's a fact that this will have the effect of preventing many from voting (mainly the poor and elderly). The only thing I wonder is why these laws only seem to come up in the months before an election. Why can't we make such a law right after an election and give people years to comply, or grandfather it in or something? The reason that people are against them is because election fraud isn't that much of an issue, and forcing people to use ID's would take away more people's ability to vote than the number of frauds it would prevent, and it's not very close, really.what is this based on? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I'd be okay with that, but pass it just after an election, not right before one so people have to scramble.Like they have to to register to vote? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 i think that once the government identifies who is a legal citizen, that citizen should be tattooed (free of charge of course) with a unique identification number. i think the forearm would be a good place. it would be easy to do on babies going forward too. this would eliminate the need for useless id cards, that can be lost, stolen or even faked.Forehead or back of the hand would be my preference. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Forehead or back of the hand would be my preference.Tou cant be serious. Behind the ear would be much less conspicuous. Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 All poor people have satellite tvs and cell phones is stupider, promise. I wish a FL ID was that cheap. Also, it still smells like a poll tax to me.Zealous, save the ridiculous alinsky talking points for Fox News. I, like most people, had never heard of him until he became the new fox bogey monster. Acting like the GOP has never had any ends justify the means ppl is sad.this is great...smells like a poll tax - coming from a person who has never seen a $ that should be taxed. i assume they would be free based on proper identification...assuming all voters have that. i can't imagine why any reasonable honest citizen would be against this.Introduce a National ID card and there will be lots of people living in compounds in Montana who might not be very happy.i don't believe you have to get one, only if you want to vote...because it would be the same for everyone, everyone competes on the same rules - damn there is an idea. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 True story: You just walk in, and tell the person your name. They look it up on the list, and then cross you off. If you go late in the day, you can just read the names off the list and go tell whoever to say that name and then vote.There is no ID check, and no voter card check. It's absolutely ridiculous.That seems insane. Pretty sure you need to have some kind of ID in Canadia, but I'm too lazy to check.Seems like a lot if ideas in this thread, like an optional free voter ID card, would be a much better solution than the current "nothing."i think that once the government identifies who is a legal citizen, that citizen should be tattooed (free of charge of course) with a unique identification number. i think the forearm would be a good place. it would be easy to do on babies going forward too. this would eliminate the need for useless id cards, that can be lost, stolen or even faked.UPC codes on the back of the neck ftw Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 i think that once the government identifies who is a legal citizen, that citizen should be tattooed (free of charge of course) with a unique identification number. i think the forearm would be a good place. it would be easy to do on babies going forward too. this would eliminate the need for useless id cards, that can be lost, stolen or even faked.That's a good idea, but you can't really see it from afar. Maybe if people also had to wear some sort of band around their arm, that would really help us out. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Alinsky is very well known in every activist group of the left, for you to pretend that this is a bogey monster created by Fox is ridiculous. BTW I haven't watched longer than 5 minutes of Fox News in the the last 5 years. Barack Obama, and every single person in his administration is very, very well schooled in Alinsky.Oh. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 this is great...smells like a poll tax - coming from a person who has never seen a $ that should be taxed. i assume they would be free based on proper identification...assuming all voters have that. i can't imagine why any reasonable honest citizen would be against thisI'm assuming the word "not" was supposed to be between should and be in the first line? Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 That seems insane. Pretty sure you need to have some kind of ID in Canadia, but I'm too lazy to check.Seems like a lot if ideas in this thread, like an optional free voter ID card, would be a much better solution than the current "nothing."UPC codes on the back of the neck ftw works well at keeping those pesky poor people away from the polls, since our IDs cost a lot more than $6. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 works well at keeping those pesky poor people away from the polls, since our IDs cost a lot more than $6.In Ontario the health card is free and everybody has one. Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 In Ontario the health card is free and everybody has one.you just keep thinking that. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 you just keep thinking that.Thank you for your fine contribution and understanding of the conversation going on. Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Vu 176 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Tou cant be serious. Behind the ear would be much less conspicuous.It was a biblical reference.Thank you for your fine contribution and understanding of the conversation going on.Haha.So how do you prove your identity to get one of these free national ID cards? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 So how do you prove your identity to get one of these free national ID cards?You go to the front window, ask for one.The person at the window says "No, GET OUT OF HERE"If you say " Sorry heh." You get one.if you say: "Hey, I am a Canadian citizen and its my right. I'm going to get a lawyer and sue you." They know you are really from America Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Vu 176 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I was actually talking about the theoretical American card, but I like what you did there. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 I was actually talking about the theoretical American card, but I like what you did there.To get the American card you do the following:You pick a window; Republican or DemcoratAt the Republican window they ask you for a birth certificate. If you don't have one you have to go get one.At the Democrat window they ask if you are a going to vote democrat. If you are you are an American citizen. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 13, 2012 Share Posted March 13, 2012 Thank you Biden, for helping the republicans in any way you canVice President Joe Biden addressed 87 wealthy Democrats last night attending a fundraiser at the home of Sen. John Kerry in Georgetown. As they dined on grass-fed New York strip steaks and white truffle mashed potatos underneath a outdoor tent, Biden criticized Republicans for being out of touch.“These guys don’t have a sense of the average folks out there,” Biden said according to the pool report, “They don’t know what it means to be middle class.”87 guests paid a minimum of $10,000-per-couple to attend the dinner. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 And the Obama Administration Sec of Defense loves the troops....disarmed1st time ever soldiers were disarmed during a Sec Def speech.President Obama said the whole world's opinion would be better if he were elected. Instead even the troops hate him? Link to post Share on other sites
akoff 0 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 "Major General Mark Gurganus later said he gave the order because Afghan troops attending the talk were unarmed and he wanted the policy to be consistent for all."i call bullshit on this quote, i don't believe it...he wanted the policy to be consistent...that is funny. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 "Major General Mark Gurganus later said he gave the order because Afghan troops attending the talk were unarmed and he wanted the policy to be consistent for all."Now I get why the entire fellowship agreed to get blindfolded, after the elves were gonna blindfold only the dwarf. Link to post Share on other sites
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