digitalmonkey 929 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Police+se...9113/story.html"They were so young, between 14 and 19 years old."I'd be okay with torturing him.Does that make me a Republican or a Democrat, liberal or conservative? Link to post Share on other sites
Pot Odds RAC 23 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 Does that make me a Republican or a Democrat, liberal or conservative?Human. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avMHN16Y1s...player_embeddedVideo that supposedly was made by the killer. Basically a call to arms for Europeans to rise up against Marxism and Islam and start another Crusades. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avMHN16Y1s...player_embeddedVideo that supposedly was made by the killer. Basically a call to arms for Europeans to rise up against Marxism and Islam and start another Crusades.305 views, boy you are on top of these things to have found it already.Too soon to make this political but I will bet that the 'fundamentalist Christian' label will be predominate. Compare the way they push his 'right' agenda vs the muslim who gunned down people at Fort Hood. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 305 views, boy you are on top of these things to have found it already. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 I bet that is funny for some reason. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7avMHN16Y1s...player_embeddedVideo that supposedly was made by the killer. Basically a call to arms for Europeans to rise up against Marxism and Islam and start another Crusades.It looks like You Tube took the video down but here's another stream of it.http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=89a_1311444384 Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I bet that is funny for some reason.Well, yes, because of the implication. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Too soon to make this political but I will bet that the 'fundamentalist Christian' label will be predominate. Compare the way they push his 'right' agenda vs the muslim who gunned down people at Fort Hood.Frigging atheist-run media. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I'd be okay with torturing him.A lifetime of solitary confinement is pretty close to torture. I know nothing about Norway's prison system, but I have to assume that's where he's headed (since there's no capital punishment in Norway). Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 A lifetime of solitary confinement is pretty close to torture. I know nothing about Norway's prison system, but I have to assume that's where he's headed (since there's no capital punishment in Norway).from what I heard yesterday the maximum prison sentence there is 21 years, so he'll be out right after he's 50. WAY TO GO OBAMA. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,321 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 Link to the 1500 page manifesto from the Norway shooter.http://www.kevinislaughter.com/wp-content/...ndependence.pdf Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 from what I heard yesterday the maximum prison sentence there is 21 years, so he'll be out right after he's 50. WAY TO GO OBAMA.I believe that was just from the terrorism charges. The murders should put him away for life. Link to post Share on other sites
loogie 115 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 305 views, boy you are on top of these things to have found it already.All YouTube videos freeze at 305 when there is a surge of views. Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 No excuse whatsoever for what this guy did, but I've said it before, I'll say it again... you can only expect the consequences of "multiculturalism" to be silenced for so long, before the further fringe elements get drastic and lash out. Some people aren't too keen on watching the standard of living in their homelands- that their forefathers worked so hard to create- destroyed by alien, 3rd World cultures, which is precisely what's happening to many parts of Europe. Obviously, the right course of action here would've been to pour all that energy into effecting meaningful political change, but what option do you have when everyone around you is a bunch of delusionaly idealistic ninnies who are perfectly cool with destroying their own country for the sake of maintaining their ideals on 'tolerance' and 'diversity? Scandinavians are a wonderful people, but they are naive (because they're from Scandinavia). It can be hard, seeing the very practical consequences of 'what's in store', when everyone else around chooses to not see it because of their soaring idealism. This is one of those tragic cases where you cannot rationalize what the guy did in any way whatsoever, but it's really not too hard to decipher his motivations for doing it. He just went way, WAY too far. The worst case scenario here is that Norway goes even further off the 'tolerance' cliff as some sort of ninny-backlash to this. "We condemn what happened so to prove it, we're shipping in a fresh batch of 100,000 new Somalians..." Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted July 24, 2011 Share Posted July 24, 2011 I believe that was just from the terrorism charges. The murders should put him away for life.Either way, it's another example of how moronically lax the penal systems are in many European countries. I'm pretty sure in Spain you can rape a child to death and it's a misdemeanor if she was wearing a dress.They call us barbaric for having capital punishment, while they let rapists and murderers out of prison every day. Link to post Share on other sites
chrozzo 19 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 What would John Lennon do? Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,757 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I'm pretty sure in Spain you can rape a child to death and it's a misdemeanor if she was wearing a dress.Flight: booked. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,757 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 He's going to get 21 years in prison. 82 days per murder. Link to post Share on other sites
SBriand 4 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 Plus Norway can add 5 years to your sentence every 5 years if they deem you to be dangerous to society. I have little doubt that if he lives through the first 21 years he will continue to receive 5 yr sentences till he dies. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 No excuse whatsoever for what this guy did, but I've said it before, I'll say it again... you can only expect the consequences of "multiculturalism" to be silenced for so long, before the further fringe elements get drastic and lash out. Some people aren't too keen on watching the standard of living in their homelands- that their forefathers worked so hard to create- destroyed by alien, 3rd World cultures, which is precisely what's happening to many parts of Europe. Obviously, the right course of action here would've been to pour all that energy into effecting meaningful political change, but what option do you have when everyone around you is a bunch of delusionaly idealistic ninnies who are perfectly cool with destroying their own country for the sake of maintaining their ideals on 'tolerance' and 'diversity? Scandinavians are a wonderful people, but they are naive (because they're from Scandinavia). It can be hard, seeing the very practical consequences of 'what's in store', when everyone else around chooses to not see it because of their soaring idealism. This is one of those tragic cases where you cannot rationalize what the guy did in any way whatsoever, but it's really not too hard to decipher his motivations for doing it. He just went way, WAY too far. The worst case scenario here is that Norway goes even further off the 'tolerance' cliff as some sort of ninny-backlash to this. "We condemn what happened so to prove it, we're shipping in a fresh batch of 100,000 new Somalians..."Sam Harris has an interesting blog post about the situation that relates to AmScray's comment, as well as BG's. http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/christi...d-islamophobia/He first says that the guy's manifesto does not support the idea that he was a "Christian Fundamentalist". The emergence of “Christian” terrorism in Europe does absolutely nothing to diminish or simplify the problem of Islam—its repression of women, its hostility toward free speech, and its all-too-facile and frequent resort to threats and violence. Islam remains the most retrograde and ill-behaved religion on earth. And the final irony of Breivik’s despicable life is that he has made that truth even more difficult to speak about. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 I bet he get's Dahmered in jail. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted July 25, 2011 Author Share Posted July 25, 2011 No excuse whatsoever for what this guy did, but I've said it before, I'll say it again... you can only expect the consequences of "multiculturalism" to be silenced for so long, before the further fringe elements get drastic and lash out. Some people aren't too keen on watching the standard of living in their homelands- that their forefathers worked so hard to create- destroyed by alien, 3rd World cultures, which is precisely what's happening to many parts of Europe. Obviously, the right course of action here would've been to pour all that energy into effecting meaningful political change, but what option do you have when everyone around you is a bunch of delusionaly idealistic ninnies who are perfectly cool with destroying their own country for the sake of maintaining their ideals on 'tolerance' and 'diversity? Scandinavians are a wonderful people, but they are naive (because they're from Scandinavia). It can be hard, seeing the very practical consequences of 'what's in store', when everyone else around chooses to not see it because of their soaring idealism. This is one of those tragic cases where you cannot rationalize what the guy did in any way whatsoever, but it's really not too hard to decipher his motivations for doing it. He just went way, WAY too far. The worst case scenario here is that Norway goes even further off the 'tolerance' cliff as some sort of ninny-backlash to this. "We condemn what happened so to prove it, we're shipping in a fresh batch of 100,000 new Somalians..."You don't think it would be worse to allow this act to have the effect it intended? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted July 25, 2011 Share Posted July 25, 2011 I had heard in general terms what had happened over the weekend, but I didn't really read up on the details until this morning. This is one of the most unimaginable crimes I've every heard of. It's horribly tragic.It's scary to think that I'm of the same species as a creature that could do such a thing to other people. Link to post Share on other sites
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