brvheart 1,756 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Just to be clear, my initial deposit was properly left in my account, so there's no trouble there.Quit interrupting the discussion. Link to post Share on other sites
SilentSnow 1 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I know we talked about it a lot in the original thread. But the way they word the questions on that political compass test is really the worst ever. It leads to so much bias it's ridiculous.I agree. -It's pretty clear that it is biased towards a libertarian perspective. You would have to have some pretty crazy opinions to score high on the Authoritarian scale. -They left out a lot of political issues that would be worth including. -I think the questions tend to be too vague. They should include more specific questions as well as general outlook questions.-It's arbitrary to pick two variables. I think 5-10 variables would give you the best combination of accuracy and simplicity. Political labels are not too accurate so the test is theoretically useful, but the execution was poor. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Just to be clear, my initial deposit was properly left in my account, so there's no trouble there.I bet spademan disagrees with this Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 Oh, thanks for the heads up.This made me laugh really hard.Is there any moral difference between a genetic lottery supported through unjust governments and a bank error lottery?Heh, when I read this I was all, "Hopefully people will just shake their heads at this and ignore it," but now I'm all like, "I was WAY off!"With that said, if the bank gave me a free twenty grand, I'd take it and tell them to piss off not because of any moral footing inherent to said position, but because fuck it, I want the money, don't care about the well being of banks and don't fear the consequences for doing that. After the first felony, there is a kind of liberation that hopefully, none of you will ever come to understand.And here I thought that going to prison would make you want to never go back again, as opposed to taking strange moral stands when doing so will land you right back in the clink. Do people still call it the clink?You know the best way to shatter a backboard?Tell it it's adopted.Heh.Or: Shut the fuck up you hand-waving piece of shit.Your knee-jerk assumption to think everyone is an idiot isn't always correct. Just saying.Heh.Haha I knew Spademan would eventually show up, resort to namecalling and then the fanclub (shakezuma, SA) would hop in behind him.My god, your reading comprehension is atrocious. You need to reread the spade/shake interaction on this page. It's actually pretty good proof that people don't jump on bandwagons when they're disagreeing with you, they're really just disagreeing with you. Possibly because you're wrong, I don't know.Edit: Oh, hi vb. You're right, but you know that. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 yeah vb's definitely the andy dufresne of this thread. I'd like to think I'm at least red. spade is captain hadley. dm is brooks (hopefully!*)(please don't have me banned!**) Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 This made me laugh really hard.Heh, when I read this I was all, "Hopefully people will just shake their heads at this and ignore it," but now I'm all like, "I was WAY off!"And here I thought that going to prison would make you want to never go back again, as opposed to taking strange moral stands when doing so will land you right back in the clink. Do people still call it the clink?Heh.Your knee-jerk assumption to think everyone is an idiot isn't always correct. Just saying.Heh.My god, your reading comprehension is atrocious. You need to reread the spade/shake interaction on this page. It's actually pretty good proof that people don't jump on bandwagons when they're disagreeing with you, they're really just disagreeing with you. Possibly because you're wrong, I don't know.Edit: Oh, hi vb. You're right, but you know that. I just don't waste my time reading everything some people say.And why are you bringing god into this?Love to hear your opinion on how my morals are wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 yeah vb's definitely the andy dufresne of this thread. I'd like to think I'm at least red. spade is captain hadley. dm is brooks (hopefully!*)(please don't have me banned!**)I'll make a decision regarding a possible banning once my tears stop flowing. Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I'll make a decision regarding a possible banning once my tears stop flowing.now this was funny Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted June 5, 2011 Share Posted June 5, 2011 I just don't waste my time reading everything some people say.But then shake even asked you if you read it, and you said you did. LIAR!Love to hear your opinion on how my morals are wrong.Again with the not reading. I said "possibly" and "I don't know". But, if my memory serves me correctly, which it may not, you claimed to be a nihilist in this thread. Which means you really have no morals, or don't believe in them. So I'm not sure how I could argue that your non-existent morals are wrong. Although they probably are. Link to post Share on other sites
digitalmonkey 929 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 But then shake even asked you if you read it, and you said you did. LIAR!Again with the not reading. I said "possibly" and "I don't know". But, if my memory serves me correctly, which it may not, you claimed to be a nihilist in this thread. Which means you really have no morals, or don't believe in them. So I'm not sure how I could argue that your non-existent morals are wrong. Although they probably are.He asked if the read the page and I said yes. That was still a lie, but... Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 Ok, so I was in the green quadrant, which I suppose means Spadesy might not despise me...yet. But check out this article about the new law in Florida requiring welfare recipients to undergo drug testing in order to get their money. Am I a bad greeny for thinking that it's not the worst idea in the world if it's tweaked a bit? Like, if someone tests positive they have to go through a rehab program in order to stay on welfare as opposed to just dropping them immediately? Link to post Share on other sites
ahosang 0 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I thought I made it pretty clear that my position was a compromise between these two values. It's not like I'm suggesting that all children be raised as equals in communes by the state. "I have no problem with wealth being unequally distributed as long as it is earned""You can improve your life a lot, your kid can live with you in a nice house and you can create a much better life for your children.""In this case society is trying to balance the freedom not to be a slave in an oligarchy with the freedom to undertake selfish actions that often make people happy since people are hardwired to favor their children."There isn't much point getting into details though with people who refuse to even discuss the issue. I am a little surprised by the extreme opinions here. I thought that conservatives would at least entertain the notion of justice, fairness and competing on a level playing field. Apparently not.Yes you mentioned some compromise in passing. But what you are up against here is not just ideological opposition, but the status quo. A full confiscation is a significant change, which would affect action of the wealthy adults. In Western societies, and obviously the USA, these taxes have been repealed/cut in recent years(IIRC - and are not fully confiscatory in any case). So there is possible indication of a democratic rejection of your ideas .So, you will have to form a stronger argument if you want to convince people. As I said, your treatment of the issue is nowhere near convincing. I want to be clear - I have no strong views either way. But could you make any point other than the fact that there is an obvious disparity from the perspective of the potential recipients? Will increased early consumption by the wealthy be beneficial to the wider society(especially the poorer)? Early transfer of wealth to young adults? Can we be sure that society will not suffer through disincentive to productivity of wealthy adults? Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I don't remember the details. wait till skeleton jelly gets back on monday and I'm sure he can do some searching.edit: and post a screenshot of your graph.I'll do the first one, but not the second one.looks like I'm still in the "intelligent and reasonable people's" quadrant.I'm right next to you.Just to be clear, my initial deposit was properly left in my account, so there's no trouble there.This made me laugh a little louder than I wanted to. Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'll do the first one, but not the second one. The gist of it is here. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 The gist of it is here.I either missed that or don't remember it. But, not that this has anything to do with anything, isn't 33 weeks already a completely viable fetus, thus rendering USC's comment completely without merit? Link to post Share on other sites
LongLiveYorke 38 Posted June 6, 2011 Author Share Posted June 6, 2011 The gist of it is here.It's somewhat comforting to know that, wherever I am and whatever I'm doing, somewhere on the internet, no matter how deeply its buried, there's a gif movie of a Storm Trooper humping the air. Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'll do the first one, but not the second one.Fine, I'll do the second request too. Link to post Share on other sites
iZuma 764 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I'm right next to you.I always thought you seemed like a hand waving idiot! Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I always thought you seemed like a hand waving idiot!Better than the alternative I suppose. Spademan's closest comparable is a girl! Link to post Share on other sites
iZuma 764 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 well I'll be damned, I hadn't even seen spademan's grid. for some reason it must not have shown up on my computer at home, and since there was text there, I just assumed that he was vaguely describing where he was without actually posting the map. funnily enough, shortly after I redid mine yesterday, I went back and tried to answe all of the questions in as liberal a manner as possible and ended up only slightly to the lower left of checky. Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 I redid mine yesterdayYou shifted one line to the right and one line down from the first time you took it three years ago.I redid mine just now and shifted three spots to the left, but didn't move up or down.We're growing apart! Link to post Share on other sites
ShakeZuma 585 Posted June 6, 2011 Share Posted June 6, 2011 fucking hippie Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 You're actually on there, but I couldn't get you in range for the screenshot.Widely misunderstood: http://www.politicalcompass.org/printableg...8&soc=-0.51 Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted June 7, 2011 Share Posted June 7, 2011 Someone needs to install me on the top right corner. Kthnx Widely misunderstood: http://www.politicalcompass.org/printableg...8&soc=-0.51 You misunderstood the questions?You misunderstood yourself?What are we talking about here? Link to post Share on other sites
qyayqi 11 Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Economic Left/Right: -5.00Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.54hmm, i'm pretty sure i took this last time & was much closer to the centre. Link to post Share on other sites
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