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A Harrahs casino nearby has just added PokerPro tables. They did not previously offer 'live' poker. There are no other brick and mortar casinos near me. Anyone have any experience on these? How is it? Worth checking out?

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I have played on them a few times on cruise ships. The only upside I noticed was that you don't have to tip the dealer. Other than that you might as well be playing online. If its your only option try it out, just don't expect the same experience of a brick and mortar game.

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As a four card game player (omaha/ O8), I would love to see place(s) near me get these. As a NLHE cash player, I would prolly dismiss these in a heartbeat. Live PLO has always been out of my means because the absolute cheapest you'll find is a 1/2 game that actually plays as 1/2/5 pretty much demanding a 500 buck buy in.Just my thoughts. I'd prefer a dealer and a live setting if I could, but since the game doesn't lend itself to spreading at that stake, Id love to someday play on a .5/1 PLO autotable someday.

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Hate them.
Please explain. It's the closest game to me but still almost 2 hours to drive. I would think game would move much faster with no shuffle/dealer change. Is there a clock? What do you not like?
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It's not like having a dealer but it's still live poker. You still get to sit with other players so the interaction with them is the same. I would prefer a dealer but I can play on a electronic table 20 min away as compared to live 2 hours away. Once you get used to them they're OK.With no dealer the game is faster and you never get screwed by dealer mistakes or have to tip. It also attracts new players who are used to slot machines and are generally easy pickin's.YMMV

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I've played them and there are good and bad things about them. Being an online player more than anything, I still prefer a live dealer, chips and cards when I play live if I have the choice. The closest casino to me is a Harrah's Indian casino with these tables and I really don't mind playing on them. I have also played on them on cruise ships and it was very enjoyable. Good:You don't have to tip the dealerYou get more hands dealt per hourYou can review the last handYou can see everyone's stack size in front of youYou can see the cards much easier than liveThe winning hand is displayed: i.e. the board and your individual screen reads flush, two pair etc.Socially they are the same as live pokerNo dealer error - everMuch less germ transmission since you aren't touching chips and cardsBad:Be careful before hitting confirm when you bet, you can misclick on these just like live - I did, you use your players card to touch the screen and the bottom tip of my card hit the 100$ chip and I was trying to fold - I didn't notice and I click confirm betting $100 when I meant to fold.There is no dealer around if there is a dispute at the table but the floor can be called easilyYou don't have chips and cards so you lose the ability to get reads from people from chip and card handlingIt is a computer generated deal but if you're a regular online player this shouldn't bother you. People who aren't online players still tend to feel there is a rigged element.

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I apologize to my friends that are dealers, and I realize this may be blasphemy, but I really wish all live poker would turn into this actually. You get to see so many more hands and have information more readily available. The only real drawback that I've ever heard is that the rake tends to be high...but I think that's the case for all low-stakes live play (and is slightly balanced since you're not having to tip the dealer).

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Please explain. It's the closest game to me but still almost 2 hours to drive. I would think game would move much faster with no shuffle/dealer change. Is there a clock? What do you not like?
Live poker is a tactile endeavor. How folks handle chips, cards, the way they bet, fold, etc....it is all part of what makes live play great. That element is gone on those stupid tables. Those tables are no different than having 9 guys sit on a round couch with laptops playing each other. Just one donkeys opinion obviouslyThat said, if there is no live poker available, I would rather play online than at one of those tables.
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I apologize to my friends that are dealers, and I realize this may be blasphemy, but I really wish all live poker would turn into this actually. You get to see so many more hands and have information more readily available. The only real drawback that I've ever heard is that the rake tends to be high...but I think that's the case for all low-stakes live play (and is slightly balanced since you're not having to tip the dealer).
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That said, if there is no live poker available, I would rather play online than at one of those tables.
Level of competition is usually going to be quite a bit different though. Especially if it's new at a place that hadn't had poker before.
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I'd rather play at one of those tables for cash than play cash online. Opponents online at 50NL and up are much better than 1/2 and 2/5 opponents on these tables live, any live game actually. I think where you find the most difference of opinion is players who have played a lot of live poker and prefer live poker to online poker still greatly prefer "real" live poker. When you have a player who learned online and plays primarily online I don't think they mind the digital tables as much.

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I played on one when I went on a cruise. I think everything has been said, but I'll repeat it.Positives... it's faster, no dealer mistakes.Negatives... it is easier to misclick on these than on the internet. Especially when you are drunk! (remember I was on a cruise.) Takes away chip handling tells.Is the rake high on all of them? Or just on cruise ships?

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They make p[perfect sense in some situations (cruise ships, remote locations, etc.)But nothing would make me sadder than to one day show up at Bellagio/Venetian and find a sea of electronic tables (not that anyone was advocating this).

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It's not like having a dealer but it's still live poker. You still get to sit with other players so the interaction with them is the same. I would prefer a dealer but I can play on a electronic table 20 min away as compared to live 2 hours away. Once you get used to them they're OK.With no dealer the game is faster and you never get screwed by dealer mistakes or have to tip. It also attracts new players who are used to slot machines and are generally easy pickin's.YMMV
The bolded is a huge positive for these.
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But nothing would make me sadder than to one day show up at Bellagio/Venetian and find a sea of electronic tables (not that anyone was advocating this).
I was.
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