budfox427 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Just got my copy in the mail yesterday. I know this has been said, and many times, but this book is ****ing amazing. Evryone who plays NL tourneys needs this, and needs it now. That is all. Link to post Share on other sites
21gambit 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Is volume 2 out yet? Link to post Share on other sites
Azzy666 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! 8) Link to post Share on other sites
budfox427 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Amazon still has Volume 2 in preorder status. Link to post Share on other sites
Sushiman 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 That's so weird. My local Borders and B&N both have decent sized poker sections. They've got all the Sklansky books, both SS, and books by every other flash in the pan WSOP winner but no Harrington on Holdem. If this book can do for my tournie what SSHE did for my limit that would be amazing. Link to post Share on other sites
seven2off 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I love the mini-quizes after each chapter, feels good when you make the same choice he does. I'll tell you what, Dan Harrington is a genious, he sure knows his shit. Link to post Share on other sites
budfox427 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 Amazon.com is your friend.http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-h...1053617-1514526 Link to post Share on other sites
Mihai C. 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I agree that it's the best book a n00b can read to get started in tournament play and learn how to bet. Volume 2 will be out sometime in July? It would probably be good to read as well.But ...If you really want to read a good book about NLH ... I would suggest "Kick A$$ NL Poker" by a guy called Kaizen Z.N. Nguyen (I think his reall name is Jason Misa). It's a 40 pages eBook that gives more info on how to play NL than any book I have read so far. Ok ok .. you can't buy that book anymore because the author has disappear ... but well ... if you can find it somewere ... (friends ... net ... you know it) ... read it ... worth every minute spent on reading it ...A quote from it?And now, a concrete example:What’s the best hand before the flop? Pocket Aces!What’s the worst hand before the flop? 72 off-suit!Let’s say you’ve just routinely raised the 5-10 blinds another 20 with 7c2d from under the gun (immediate left of the big blind), and a predictable “rock” (who you know would only re-raise an early position raiser with AK, KK, or AA) re-raises you from middle position 60 more. Everyone folds and it is up to you. You are heads up and you have the 1000 in chips that he has left in front of him covered. What would you do? If you are not on drugs now, your answer would be that you would happily and greedily call his 60 raise. And you would be right. Here’s why. Your 7c2d is close to a 9 to 1 underdog versus an Ac-Ad, the best “pocket rocket” combo that he can hope to have against your “monster”. Your “pot odds” at this point is 2.25 to 1 because there already is 135 in the pot and it costs you 60 to call. In terms of pot odds, a call here will certainly give you the worst of it.But wait just one damned minute! Your ‘implied odds’ at this point is at least 19 to 1 (the 135 already in the pot plus the 1000 in front of him that you can win if you “hit” versus your 60 call). Here’s how to calculate the implied odds influenced mathematical expectation of your 60 call. You lose 60 nine times and win 1135 once. Your average profit for this call: $59.50! A near 100% return, not annualized!Of course, you’re not going to call him right away. You’re going to do an Academy Award winning acting job first. You’re going to put both your hands behind your stack as if planning to push it all in. Then you stop and hesitate. You stand up, take a sip off your Evian water bottle, shake your head, and then sit down again. You look up and move your eyes left and right, and silently mutter something to yourself that’ll make it look like you’re making some dead ass serious mathematical calculations inside your head. Then you put both of your hands behind your stack again and then once again stop and hesitate. Do this routine for two minutes or until he calls for the “clock”. Finally, you shake your head and call the 60 while saying, “Okay, let’s see the flop!” The purpose of this acting job is to engrain in his mind that you have something that’s worth moving all-in with pre-flop, like a big pocket pair or AK. This will insure that if something like 7-2-2 or 7-3-2 flops, he can’t in a quadrillion years possibly put you on those low cards. Thus, insuring that he’ll pay you off with his entire stack if you do “hit” the flop. Of course, if you miss (and you will miss much more than you will hit), you just throw your “garbage” away. And yes, you’re going to be doing another Academy Award winning acting job before doing so. Like, “Shit! I hate to have to throw these pocket Queens away! Bull! Shit!” If you happen to be on TV while you’re doing this, you’ll either win legions of fans or people will think you’re loco. But it doesn’t matter........Now I can bet you would love to read this book and forget about Harrington's ... conservative ... AA, KK, AK one ... ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
lew189 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 why don't you do us a favor and put the e-book up on an ftp site? Link to post Share on other sites
Meatwad 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I agree that it's the best book a n00b can read to get started in tournament play and learn how to bet. Volume 2 will be out sometime in July? It would probably be good to read as well.But ...If you really want to read a good book about NLH ... I would suggest "Kick A$$ NL Poker" by a guy called Kaizen Z.N. Nguyen (I think his reall name is Jason Misa). It's a 40 pages eBook that gives more info on how to play NL than any book I have read so far. Ok ok .. you can't buy that book anymore because the author has disappear ... but well ... if you can find it somewere ... (friends ... net ... you know it) ... read it ... worth every minute spent on reading it ...A quote from it?And now, a concrete example:What’s the best hand before the flop? Pocket Aces!What’s the worst hand before the flop? 72 off-suit!Let’s say you’ve just routinely raised the 5-10 blinds another 20 with 7c2d from under the gun (immediate left of the big blind), and a predictable “rock” (who you know would only re-raise an early position raiser with AK, KK, or AA) re-raises you from middle position 60 more. Everyone folds and it is up to you. You are heads up and you have the 1000 in chips that he has left in front of him covered. What would you do? If you are not on drugs now, your answer would be that you would happily and greedily call his 60 raise. And you would be right. Here’s why. Your 7c2d is close to a 9 to 1 underdog versus an Ac-Ad, the best “pocket rocket” combo that he can hope to have against your “monster”. Your “pot odds” at this point is 2.25 to 1 because there already is 135 in the pot and it costs you 60 to call. In terms of pot odds, a call here will certainly give you the worst of it.But wait just one damned minute! Your ‘implied odds’ at this point is at least 19 to 1 (the 135 already in the pot plus the 1000 in front of him that you can win if you “hit” versus your 60 call). Here’s how to calculate the implied odds influenced mathematical expectation of your 60 call. You lose 60 nine times and win 1135 once. Your average profit for this call: $59.50! A near 100% return, not annualized!Of course, you’re not going to call him right away. You’re going to do an Academy Award winning acting job first. You’re going to put both your hands behind your stack as if planning to push it all in. Then you stop and hesitate. You stand up, take a sip off your Evian water bottle, shake your head, and then sit down again. You look up and move your eyes left and right, and silently mutter something to yourself that’ll make it look like you’re making some dead ass serious mathematical calculations inside your head. Then you put both of your hands behind your stack again and then once again stop and hesitate. Do this routine for two minutes or until he calls for the “clock”. Finally, you shake your head and call the 60 while saying, “Okay, let’s see the flop!” The purpose of this acting job is to engrain in his mind that you have something that’s worth moving all-in with pre-flop, like a big pocket pair or AK. This will insure that if something like 7-2-2 or 7-3-2 flops, he can’t in a quadrillion years possibly put you on those low cards. Thus, insuring that he’ll pay you off with his entire stack if you do “hit” the flop. Of course, if you miss (and you will miss much more than you will hit), you just throw your “garbage” away. And yes, you’re going to be doing another Academy Award winning acting job before doing so. Like, “censored! I hate to have to throw these pocket Queens away! Bull! censored!” If you happen to be on TV while you’re doing this, you’ll either win legions of fans or people will think you’re loco. But it doesn’t matter........Now I can bet you would love to read this book and forget about Harrington's ... conservative ... AA, KK, AK one ... ;-)Haha nice. If there were ever a case for a virtual book burning i think we found a nominee. Link to post Share on other sites
budfox427 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Author Share Posted May 27, 2005 I think that was the book I heard about that is no longer availble because the author plagarized stuff from posts Ray Zee made on 2+2 and then started selling it in book form, or something like that.That being the case, by money goes to Action Dan. That and the fact that he has been at the final table in the last 2 Main Events. Link to post Share on other sites
Mihai C. 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Ok ... a phrase or two .. or more might not be his ... so what ?! ... Harrington's book ... only tells you to bet ... and how to play only strong starting hands ... and I love his book for that ... Better than almost all other books from the market ... ...But ... the "Kick A$$" really changed my poker life ... It's not that I've start playing loose-aggressive or something like that ... It's a just very motivating book ... It's like reading "The Art of War" but ... being actually simplified and changed to apply to Poker ... Ok .. if you guys want the book ... PM with you email address ... it's just 300 Kb ... and probably the author lost all his money in poker ;-) ... Read it ... and tell me if I'm wrong as it to be the best book on Tournament play .. that really brings new stuff .. and not just starting hands ... pot odds talking ... or betting "patterns" ...Oh .. I've almos forgot ... I'm also looking forward ing reading Harrington's volume 2 ... and you should too ... ;-) Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth Beagle 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I loved Harrington's book too. It's the best book on No Limit Hold 'Em I've read yet and I can't wait for volume two. I hope it comes out before the Main Event starts. Link to post Share on other sites
Mihai C. 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Amazon says 7th of June ... initially it was 1st of May ... I pre-ordered it ... just to find out it delayed some of other books I've ordered until June so I had to cancel the pre-order ... don't know if it will actually get published before main event ... buThe volume 2 is about end-play .. last part of the tournament ... last tables ... final table ... shorthanded and so on ... Don't know how much should it help a WSOP final table player though ... as one really needed to master that info long time before the main event :-DBut well ... good luck at WSOP after reading that book though ... at least if you'll play against Dan Harrington you'll know his play ... :-P Link to post Share on other sites
bosox_11 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 How does vol. 1 translate to onilne play? Do his recommendations work for your standard 10-person SNG? Link to post Share on other sites
Stealth Beagle 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 How does vol. 1 translate to onilne play? Do his recommendations work for your standard 10-person SNG?Absolutely. Parts of it read almost like a textbook with "problems" to work through, and many of those feature specific questions and situations about SNGs. Link to post Share on other sites
Mihai C. 0 Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 I've seen too many loose callers of $200 bets with the starting hands Harrington recommends at 10/20 blinds ... and I've seen calls with QXs or worst hands even in $30 SNGs ... This doesn't mean the book sucks on Internet strategy ... no ... it doesn't ... if you haven't read it ... do it ... it's a good book for any player ... I'm an Internet player ... and the book helped ... but ... just reading the book won't be enough in playing better on the Internet ... For an Internet player I would also recommend ... "Insider Secrets of Online Poker" by Theodor Cage ... Link to post Share on other sites
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