JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I just tried to drink the tv remote , so grain of salt, but I agree with scram AND Tim (last paragraph excepted). Half measures, right Mike? Booyah! Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Oh, wakefield Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Not only is this a viable solution, but it's entirely practical.The problem is, much like people who are generally opposed to all gun rights yet demand for "better training for gun owners", your own ideas result in an outcome that still doesn't match up with your implied ideologies.The United States could exercise its dominion over all of planet earth, save for maybe China and Russia, by simply flying sorties and pushing the button whenever any country got out of line. When presented with the reality of total annihilation from an adversary capable of accomplishing it, a country will submit 100% of the time and serve our demands without any need for an 'occupying force'. We saw that with Japan after we cracked a couple atoms on them and suddenly, all that 'willingness to die for the Emperor' took a back seat to our old Darwinian impulse, to not have everything we know destroyed, everyone we know killed. There's absolutely no fore-brain ideology that can undermine millenniums old hind-brain impulse.The problem is, it would require actually doing it, which we don't have the stomach for anymore. Some country would eventually test our willingness to do it, which would entail a lot of dead non-Caucasian women, children and innocent civilians. This probably isn't something you'd be too cool with in the name of 'peace'. Ever see what the allies did in WWII? Firebombing Dresden and Tokyo? Had we lost that war, LeMay, Eisenhower, Churchill and a whole lotta others would've been stood before the Axis version of the Hague and dropped from the gallows.But yes. "Peace" can absolutely, positively be accomplished with air power alone, so long as it's accompanied by a willingness to use it to its full capacities, which we aren't willing to do. This is also why we haven't decisively 'won' a war since we lost our stomach for it after the second big one. Wars are won by savagery. Air conditioning and color TV kicked that right out of us. Add internet porn into the mix, we're basically French at this point.im good with this. i wasnt suggesting it because it is more peaceful and my lib-brain requires that. i think it is less peaceful by most definitions, but saves lives and money.then again, the United Nations would send a strongly worded letter and YOU DO NOT WANT THAT Link to post Share on other sites
JubilantLankyLad 1,957 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Oops Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 I gave this DVD to one of my former bosses, a vietnam war vet. amazing. errol morris. Link to post Share on other sites
AmScray 355 Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 I gave this DVD to one of my former bosses, a vietnam war vet. amazing. errol morris.I've never seen that clip before, but I disagree with McNamara's new found religion on the matter. Maybe when I'm 90, my opinion will 'soften' a bit but wars should either be fought completely, or not at all. "Proportionality" isn't a relevant factor when submission is the objective. Link to post Share on other sites
InternetExplorer 2,609 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 the whole thing is gold. I don't know enough about him to say whether he should be respected, but he was obviously extremely smarthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_kxPwFJOQs&feature=relatedagree completely. that we can sit here and chat about these issues is thanks in part to the swiftness with which we dealt with japan, which led to a smoother transition into the cold war, and all the rest. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 the whole thing is gold. I don't know enough about him to say whether he should be respected, but he was obviously extremely smartThe obvious stupidity in how he ran the Vietnam war from every angle removes any chance I would ever consider him remotely smart.And what a surprise that he felt the bombs dropped in Japan were wrong.....the guy still thinks that the rules of war are something two people who are trying to kill each other should agree with....Idiot. Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The obvious stupidity in how he ran the Vietnam war from every angle removes any chance I would ever consider him remotely smart.And what a surprise that he felt the bombs dropped in Japan were wrong.....the guy still thinks that the rules of war are something two people who are trying to kill each other should agree with....Idiot.We fight to the death butch.Ok ;ets get the rules straight.RULES? RULES IN A KNIFE FIGHT? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e86050c415/kfc-loves-gays-with-john-goodman?playlist=featured_videos Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 The obvious stupidity in how he ran the Vietnam war from every angle removes any chance I would ever consider him remotely smart.And what a surprise that he felt the bombs dropped in Japan were wrong.....the guy still thinks that the rules of war are something two people who are trying to kill each other should agree with....Idiot.Bingo, the fact that anyone listens to a word he says is amazing to me. Link to post Share on other sites
SAM_Hard8 50 Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 http://www.funnyordi...featured_videosWow that was the best ever! Thanks Bob Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 ian bremmer@ianbremmerIn 1974, 3% of retiring members of Congress became lobbyists. Today, 50% of Senators, 42% of House Reps (from @TheAtlantic). #yikes Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 The National Republican Lawyers Association found 334 cases of actual voter fraud over the last ten years.....or .7 fraudulent votes per state per election. Glad we got those voter ID laws in to combat this widespread scourge! Link to post Share on other sites
DJ Vu 176 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Couldn't one case of voter fraud involve multiple votes? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted August 10, 2012 Share Posted August 10, 2012 Couldn't one case of voter fraud involve multiple votes?I don't see how but I guess it's possible. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 17, 2012 Share Posted August 17, 2012 So what is more pitiful?That Iran has an annual anti-Israel protest in the capitol?orThat Iran doesn't get that Israel can and will destroy their country if they mess with them? Link to post Share on other sites
colonel Feathers 5 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 So what is more pitiful?That Iran has an annual anti-Israel protest in the capitol?orThat Iran doesn't get that Israel can and will destroy their country if they mess with them?the saddest thing of all is that TEHRAN used to be the party town of the mideast.Paris of the desert I believe it was called. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted August 18, 2012 Share Posted August 18, 2012 Well to be fair, the French lean anti-Semite..so they may still retain that title of Paris on the desert. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The Chicago Teachers Strike is getting really ugly. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 US Gov't ended up making a $12 Billion profit on the takeover of AIG Insurance during the crisis http://www.ft.com/cm...l#axzz26A7bI9Pz http://www.businessi...t-profit-2012-9 http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/09/10/plot-twist-in-the-a-i-g-bailout-it-actually-worked/?seid=auto&smid=tw-nytimesdealbook#prclt-ZbxdAD1b Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted September 11, 2012 Share Posted September 11, 2012 The Chicago Teachers Strike is getting really ugly. The teachers are the highest paid in the country, were offered a 16% raise and are demanding a 30% raise. It's too bad Chicago can't import some Scott Brown for a couple months to help them fix things before the inner city kids get more screwed by the teachers unions. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 I so hate ignorance. US Ambassador To Libya And Three Others Killed In Attack On Consulate Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/reports-us-ambassador-to-libya-has-been-killed-in-consulate-attack-2012-9#ixzz26FpUPyDs Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 ian bremmer@ianbremmer Afghanistan, Egypt, Libya all extremely troubling headlines this morning. Almost makes you forget the next Chinese President is MIA. ian bremmer@ianbremmer Western values on free speech versus Islamist values on respect for Islam clash with far more violence in a G-Zero world. ian bremmer@ianbremmer Egypt Muslim Brotherhood calling for nationwide strike to protest anti-Islam video. No word on Embassy siege. Will not help w IMF. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 The movies been out for months. They chose 9-11 for a reason. No easy answer for America though. Pressure for the new Libyan government to bring the murders to justice very quickly is about the only thing we can do. So we are dependent on Libya to handle our response. Not a good place to be. Link to post Share on other sites
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