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And thanks to the activist conservative judges on the Supreme Court, they could strip search her if they felt like it! Ah, freedom...
lets hope they are the same ones that save us from the health care package....kind of funny isn't it.
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lets hope they are the same ones that save us from the health care package....kind of funny isn't it.
I think the fact that the mandate was originally a conservative idea is funny.
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Somebody definitely needs to save us from providing healthcare for all our citizens. What could be worse!
if you had said that without the sarcasm it would have been spot on...so close but so far
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Somebody definitely needs to save us from providing healthcare for all our citizens. What could be worse!
Making our citizens dependent on the government for everything, thus losing our freedom.
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Making our citizens dependent on the government for everything, thus losing our freedom.
Would you rather be dependent on the government for healthcare or not have healthcare? Pretend those were your options.
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Would you rather be dependent on the government for healthcare or not have healthcare? Pretend those were your options.
Would you rather be free to run your own life or have the government tell you how you will love? Pretend those were your options.Healthcare is not a right.
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Tim, I think it's time you guys on the far radical left got a little education about how things really are.The left bases all their political decisions on feelings. Motives are much more important than results. It's why you guys feel so superior to the right.You created welfare and think " Now poor people will have their basic needs met "Therefore anyone who is not for your brand of welfare must want poor people to not have their basic needs met, hence the "starve the poor" rhetoric you guys love to use to distract from the failure of welfare.The right thinks: "Now the poor will be dependent on the government and never break away from poverty"The actual results: Generations of poor people, largely minority, do not work, do not want to work, and want the government to give them everything.Sure some people are helped, some people use welfare for the safety net, but more and more welfare has become a cancer, and those people it has affected are lost. You can write them off from being productive parts of society ever. We could help people without destroying most of the lives we are trying to help.Now you want to 'give' people healthcare.You think: " People should be able to have all their sicknesses cured "Therefore anyone who is against free healthcare must " Want people to die on the steps of a hospital for want of basic healthcare"You fail to understand that the opposite of feelings based decisions is not 'feeling the opposite' about the subject.The right doesn't want the government to have complete control over your ability to control your own healthcare. In America your taxes are much lower than socialist countries with 'free' healthcare. This means you are free to take that extra money and choose to get the best insurance, the worst, none at all. It is your freedom to choose. No one should be forced to pay for someone else's healthcare because that person chose to instead buy a jet ski.The notion that people cannot make their own choices to protect themselves so we must force them is also abhorrent to the right. Of course some people will buy stupid things instead of things they should. The entire lifted truck industry is based on this. Do you think a government that tells you what you can and cannot buy is better than not letting some idiots be idiots?You want to bring the entire country down to the level of the worst examples. People who do stupid things should be the ones we base laws for the entire populous. We on the right believe that people are smart enough to be free. Free to choose a monster truck, free to own a gun, and free to choose their own plan to handle any future illnesses. And sometimes people will drive their monster truck off a canyon wall, shoot themselves while cleaning their gun, and not be properly insured for an illness that they get. These people have to deal with the consequences. Pretending we can save everyone from the consequences of their action is insane. But the left is trying to do just that, and they are willing to give away all the freedom of their birthright to do it.

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Would you rather be free to run your own life or have the government tell you how you will love? Pretend those were your options.Healthcare is not a right.
You didn't answer my question at all.And why do you get to decide whether or not healthcare is a right? Could you at least attempt to explain that statement? It's meaningless without an explanation, because the obvious comeback is, "But it should be." Why is primary education a right? Whatever rights American citizens have are simply what the government decides we should have, or should have protection from. So no, healthcare is not currently a right of every American, but it will be if the Democrats get their way.
You created welfare
No I did not. You seem to think everybody to the left of the Republican party is one person. I think that's where your problem starts. Cue you saying, "Nuh uh cuz Democrats do whatever you're accusing me of and do it way worse!"
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You didn't answer my question at all.
Your question was silly
And why do you get to decide whether or not healthcare is a right? Could you at least attempt to explain that statement? It's meaningless without an explanation, because the obvious comeback is, "But it should be."
If only I had explained this in my posts....it really would have been a good time to do that...
Why is primary education a right? Whatever rights American citizens have are simply what the government decides we should have, or should have protection from. So no, healthcare is not currently a right of every American, but it will be if the Democrats get their way.
Education is not a right. A larger and larger number of students don't get a high school education. The democrat party is incapable of actually doing anything of value, so I wouldn't hold my breath...Well other than increase the national debt in 39 months more than Bush did in 8 years.
No I did not. You seem to think everybody to the left of the Republican party is one person. I think that's where your problem starts. Cue you saying, "Nuh uh cuz Democrats do whatever you're accusing me of and do it way worse!"
Well there you go, you personally did not create the welfare program.I guess healthcare and mother government are an inevitability now.I wish I had some way to stop it, but if you personally did not sign the law to create welfare...I lose.
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I wish I had some way to stop it, but if you personally did not sign the law to create welfare...I lose.
My point was that you perhaps shouldn't blame me personally for it. That was of course just an example of my larger point, which I spelled out but maybe you ignored, regarding the ridiculous way you characterize anybody to the left of you.
Education is not a right. A larger and larger number of students don't get a high school education.
Education is not only a right, but it's the law. And I can't tell if you're criticizing how bad public schools are or if you're simply saying that lots of High Schoolers drop out.
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Would you rather be dependent on the government for healthcare or not have healthcare? Pretend those were your options.
they are not the only options currently and with a little bit of luck they not be the only options in the future or we all will in deep trouble.
Why is primary education a right? Whatever rights American citizens have are simply what the government decides we should have, or should have protection from.
a right is different then being forced to purchase something...that is a fairly basic concept that i am sure you will struggle to get your arms around.the healthcare law was written with the intent to kill the insurance business and over the course of a few years make all people be on governemnt healthcare. it is up to you if you chose not to believe that. They (democrats) got greedy and were so arrogant (hard to believe) that they didn't bother to consider if it was legal...well played guys!! it is actually hard to believe that they were as stupid as they were, people like you should look direct to your leaders when this falls because they 100 percent to blame. Hope and change LOL.bottom line is forced healthcare is nothing close to the public schools - now stop being silly.
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they are not the only options currently and with a little bit of luck they not be the only options in the future or we all will in deep trouble.
It is if you cannot afford health insurance and your state doesn't offer free or subsidized insurance (like Massachusetts and some other states do).
a right is different then being forced to purchase something...that is a fairly basic concept that i am sure you will struggle to get your arms around.
Children aren't being forced to purchase anything, but they would be forced to have health insurance. Seriously, the importance of universal healthcare is in insuring poor children, not lazy adults.
bottom line is forced healthcare is nothing close to the public schools - now stop being silly.
It is if you're a child.
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Really?Poor sick children will die if we don't do this now?While those selfish children who's parents chose to get insurance instead of a new Ipad are allowed to live????It's a national tragedy!And if it was true, then you wold have a point

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It is if you cannot afford health insurance and your state doesn't offer free or subsidized insurance (like Massachusetts and some other states do).see you just provided an option - move to Mass - or you could get a better job...people seem to think this is free. it is not society’s job to take care of anyone from craddle to grave, take care of your damn self or do without.Seriously, the importance of universal healthcare is in insuring poor children, not lazy adults. that is not what is currently on the table and to the best of my knowledge never been discussedi would be ok with a conversation on it. as long as they day you turn 18 you get your ass thrown off the program unless you are in college and after 4 years of college you are gone and if you don't pass you are gone, and if you have children you are gone and if you fail a drug test you are gone etc... i am not saying i would agree to any of that but it would be a discussion point.
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Really?Poor sick children will die if we don't do this now?While those selfish children who's parents chose to get insurance instead of a new Ipad are allowed to live????It's a national tragedy!And if it was true, then you wold have a point
Well it kind of is true. You're saying there aren't poor and uninsured children in this country? Akoff - I would agree with that plan. I never said the current bill is awesome.
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Yeah, just move to a new state or get a new job. Duh.
it isn't a right...that is a very simple concept that you seem to be missing. if you want something (health insurance in this case) given to you the options are to move to where it is provided or better yourself so somebody wants to provide you it or do without.This a concept you may not understand, most employers are happy to provide healthcare - it is a benefit of a productive job...you don't have to be super smart or super talented. if you show up 5 days a week, work an honest 8 and follow the rules you will by in large have healthcare...however most of the idiots that don't have healthcare already are not capable of that and most certainly shouldn't be having kids!!!
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it isn't a right...that is a very simple concept that you seem to be missing.
Things are only rights because the government decides they should be rights. In many other countries healthcare is a right. That's also a very simple concept.Regarding how many American children don't have insurance, it's 7.3 million. "Don't have kids" is not a very realistic platform.
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it isn't a right...that is a very simple concept that you seem to be missing. if you want something (health insurance in this case) given to you the options are to move to where it is provided or better yourself so somebody wants to provide you it or do without.This a concept you may not understand, most employers are happy to provide healthcare - it is a benefit of a productive job...you don't have to be super smart or super talented. if you show up 5 days a week, work an honest 8 and follow the rules you will by in large have healthcare...however most of the idiots that don't have healthcare already are not capable of that and most certainly shouldn't be having kids!!!
Your condescension is a different kind of funny than mk's condescension.
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I think the fact that the mandate was originally a conservative idea is funny.
No one on Earth would call anyone from Massachusetts conservative. Feel free to call Mitt the Great a Republican, but calling him a conservative is an outright lie.
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Would you rather be dependent on the government for healthcare or not have healthcare? Pretend those were your options.
You need to at least come up with a realistic hypothetical.
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No one should be forced to pay for someone else's healthcare because that person chose to instead buy a jet ski.
And yet this is exactly what we do because we don't let people without insurance die. Since we are saving these people either way, might as well make them have insurance. If you want to be "pro-letting uninsured people die", go right ahead at least it will be a logically consistent argument unlike most of your arguments.
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