GWCGWC 83 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Yup, I did the math too and it's good. Btw, your structure is wrong in the calcs, although for cEV it makes no diff, so nevermind.whoopsalso the calling ranges are about double what they should be. oh well, I'm not closing stars to change it so if you've confirmed it then it's settled. shoving has positive expectation. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I should also add that I raise 2.2x/fold 44 there all day.I'm exploitable. Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's the calling ranges and stacks that make it a negative play. You have to adjust those to more realistic ranges. Even with them calling tight it is still negative, but that doesn't always make it bad. Personally I'm either raising 2.25X or folding here probably folding because I agree with the downside of raising here. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's the calling ranges and stacks that make it a negative play. You have to adjust those to more realistic ranges. Even with them calling tight it is still negative, but that doesn't always make it bad. Personally I'm either raising 2.25X or folding here probably folding because I agree with the downside of raising here.Oh Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Pretty sick evidence there sweetheart Link to post Share on other sites
king1305 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I don't see fluff in yet, hit him up.He and I are mortal enemies until after the game Sunday, you know that! Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 It's the calling ranges and stacks that make it a negative play. You have to adjust those to more realistic ranges. Even with them calling tight it is still negative, but that doesn't always make it bad. Personally I'm either raising 2.25X or folding here probably folding because I agree with the downside of raising here.Math proves that you are wrong. If you tighten the ranges, it makes it even more profitable.Like I told a great friend of mine, I don't like any of the options all too well, but you still have to pick the best one. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 I'm pretty sure we're only great friends because your dick is twice mine in length Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 reg'd in 360753272 trying to figure out how to enter it.edit: got it! Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 He and I are mortal enemies until after the game Sunday, you know that!go GreenBay weeeeeeeeeeeee Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Math proves that you are wrong. If you tighten the ranges, it makes it even more profitable.Like I told a great friend of mine, I don't like any of the options all too well, but you still have to pick the best one.Actually mis-typed even putting them on a higher calling % it still says fold, but like I said you can fiddle with Wiz to get many different results. But enough about it! Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 but talking about hands are sooo fun! Link to post Share on other sites
Nvrquit 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Anyone potentially want a partner?Might be interested Link to post Share on other sites
kobe2odom8 14 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Dixi, what is your strategy for hiding from search? Link to post Share on other sites
MaxStPolish 4 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Les than jake at bottom lounge just ****ing rocked my balls off..........omfg. Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!! lick my taint twenty inches of snow!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
PillyPill 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Les than jake at bottom lounge just ****ing rocked my balls off..........omfg. Weeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!! lick my taint twenty inches of snow!!!!!So drunken thread time?Starting good in first 4.40. 7/9 in 360728982. Go me! Link to post Share on other sites
PillyPill 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 So drunken thread time?Starting good in first 4.40. 7/9 in 360728982. Go me!7th. A4<66 Button pushing into my BB when I had just over 10 BBs. Blah. GG me tho. Happy with finish and ready for more! Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 this forum really is out of controlmarcel, will you teach me tournaments, please??? Link to post Share on other sites
Canary3 1 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 this forum really is out of controlmarcel, will you teach me tournaments, please???Win flips Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Link to post Share on other sites
rcgs59 15 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 this forum really is out of controlmarcel, will you teach me tournaments, please???always was , always will beWin flipsdodge donkeys Link to post Share on other sites
PillyPill 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Would anyone be interested in doing this once every other month and/or once every four months or something like that, and that at end of the year do a Tournament of Champions or something like that? Link to post Share on other sites
Good Tom Hunting 0 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Thanks for doing some math. I'm glad that posting the hand got a good discussion going. All players being equal, I would agree that this is a good spot to shove, but when you factor in the skill level of opponents and the value of seeing more hands, I would still be hesitant to shove. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Would anyone be interested in doing this once every other month and/or once every four months or something like that, and that at end of the year do a Tournament of Champions or something like that?I'd be open to doing it once every 4, 5, or 6 months, but it is hard to commit to something so far in advance. Every month is definitely too much. Link to post Share on other sites
DiamondDixie 12 Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 Bubble girl finished 19th with ATo v K2sAs for doing more of these, if we did $2.20 180 turbos I wouldn't mind but these are just painful. Link to post Share on other sites
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