solderz 0 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 The shooter also liked to eat at dairy queen. He was known to eat up to 5 cones a day. Long-term, chronic brain freeze caused this shooting. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 actually this is a veiled, you can't be moral without God thread which we all know is actually partly true. I suppose we evolved with a predisposition to have magical thinking as a survival technique. His brain (the shoooter) ultimately failed him though and he made a huge error in judgement. Normally magical thinking errors don't get people killed, but in this case he apparently bought into the right wing conspiracy theories and couldn't shake it.It's more likely he judged that it didn't matter what he did, because that's the kind of stuff he said often Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted January 14, 2011 Share Posted January 14, 2011 I didn't realize he carried out these killings in the name of . Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 14, 2011 Author Share Posted January 14, 2011 I didn't realize he carried out these killings in the name of anarchy .Yea, apparently you pays a nickle, you decide why he did this.And it will make the news! Link to post Share on other sites
antistuff 0 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 bg...yikes man we get your point. nihilism is as dangerous to society as religion. two wrongs dont make a right dude. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Also, atheism =! nihilism by any stretch of the imagination. They are entirely separate philosophies. Bazarov, the protagonist in the classic work Fathers and Sons written in the early 1860s by Ivan Turgenev, is quoted as saying nihilism is "just cursing", cited in Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Macmillan, 1967) Vol. 5, "Nihilism", 514 ff. This source states as follows: "On the one hand, the term is widely used to denote the doctrine that moral norms or standards cannot be justified by rational argument. On the other hand, it is widely used to denote a mood of despair over the emptiness or triviality of human existence. This double meaning appears to derive from the fact that the term was often employed in the nineteenth century by the religiously oriented as a club against atheists, atheists being regarded as ipso facto nihilists in both senses. The atheist, it was held [by the religiously oriented], would not feel bound by moral norms; consequently, he would tend to be callous or selfish, even criminal" (at p. 515).So you're only 150 years out of date in pretending they're the same.***************BG responds: You mean like Darwinism? I reply: No, we don't discard something just because it's old. See: Newtonian physics, mathematics, The Constitution, etc. The point is that linking atheism with nihilism was falsely done 150 years ago in order to make atheists look bad. If you're going to build straw men you could at least cull them from the 20th century, or even the 21st. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 bg...yikes man we get your point. nihilism is as dangerous to society as religion. two wrongs dont make a right dude.Nice double entendre. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Also, atheism =! nihilism by any stretch of the imagination. They are entirely separate philosophies.So you're only 150 years out of date in pretending they're the same.***************BG responds: You mean like Darwinism? I reply: No, we don't discard something just because it's old. See: Newtonian physics, mathematics, The Constitution, etc. The point is that linking atheism with nihilism was falsely done 150 years ago in order to make atheists look bad. If you're going to build straw men you could at least cull them from the 20th century, or even the 21st.You can't get to nihilism without first accepting atheism.In fact atheism leads to many different philosophies:Communism, nihilism, posting new threads about creation museums.But at least you have all those soup lines, hospitals, universities, and orphanages...oh wait...that's right, atheist are parasites on society.Why is it so in vogue? Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 oh wait...that's right, atheist are parasites on society.Bill Gates is the largest philanthropist in the history of the world. He's also an atheist. Warren Buffet is also giving away preposterous amounts of money. He is agnostic. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Bill Gates is the largest philanthropist in the history of the world. He's also an atheist. Warren Buffet is also giving away preposterous amounts of money. He is agnostic.Ten Bill Gates couldn't touch the giving the Catholic church has done....but hey, if you want to hang the value of your side on the maker of Windows...who am I to stop you? Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ten Bill Gates couldn't touch the giving the Catholic church has done....Nor could ten Bill Gates give the touching the Catholic church has done.... Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 15, 2011 Author Share Posted January 15, 2011 Nor could ten Bill Gates give the touching the Catholic church has done....Glad to see the Windows love here. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 Ten Bill Gates couldn't touch the giving the Catholic church has doneTen people vs. hundreds of millions. Not a very fair comparison. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 16, 2011 Author Share Posted January 16, 2011 Ten people vs. hundreds of millions. Not a very fair comparison.Is it my fault so few people are atheist? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Is it my fault so few people are atheist?No but I do hold you partially responsible for all the molestation. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 But at least you have all those soup lines, hospitals, universities, and orphanages...oh wait...that's right, atheist are parasites on society.I will bet you all the gold in my pouch versus all the balloons in your stable that the soup lines* are populated almost 100% by people who believe in Jesus, the hospitals and universities are operated by an extremely large proportion of atheists compared to the population as a whole, and...I don't know what to say about the orphanages. Kids are obnoxious anyways, so who cares?*the eaters Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I will bet you all the gold in my pouch versus all the balloons in your stable that the soup lines* are populated almost 100% by people who believe in Jesus, the hospitals and universities are operated by an extremely large proportion of atheists compared to the population as a whole, and...I don't know what to say about the orphanages. Kids are obnoxious anyways, so who cares?*the eatersI probably have about $5K worth of balloons right now so it's not a fair bet.But how does this change what I said?Atheist are parasites, sucking off the teet of hospitals and universities all built by Christians.Christians are giving their time to feed the poor, atheist insist on being paid huge sums, with no ability to fire them, and having huge retirement packages while they snip at the heals of the very belief system that allows them to be the parasites that they are.Plus they wear tweed at a factor of 2,000:1 to Christians.Tweed. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I probably have about $5K worth of balloons right now so it's not a fair bet.But how does this change what I said?Atheist are parasites, sucking off the teet of hospitals and universities all built by Christians.Christians are giving their time to feed the poor, atheist insist on being paid huge sums, with no ability to fire them, and having huge retirement packages while they snip at the heals of the very belief system that allows them to be the parasites that they are.Plus they wear tweed at a factor of 2,000:1 to Christians.Tweed.Or, christians are parasites sucking off the knowledge of science and medicine that atheists developed, which we allow them to have even though they try so hard to undermine the process of science. If it weren't for us, your pretty christian hospitals would still be using leeches, and you'd have absolutely no clozapine to give all those homeless people you are obsessed with. Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 Or, christians are parasites sucking off the knowledge of science and medicine that atheists developed, which we allow them to have even though they try so hard to undermine the process of science. If it weren't for us, your pretty christian hospitals would still be using leeches, and you'd have absolutely no clozapine to give all those homeless people you are obsessed with.Most scientific discoveries were made by Christians.But hey, feel free to pretend that after we have discovered most scientific discoveries, and built most universities, that you guys are the owners of science. It's cute. Link to post Share on other sites
Mills 0 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 I probably have about $5K worth of balloons right now so it's not a fair bet.But how does this change what I said?Atheist are parasites, sucking off the teet of hospitals and universities all built by Christians.Christians are giving their time to feed the poor, atheist insist on being paid huge sums, with no ability to fire them, and having huge retirement packages while they snip at the heals of the very belief system that allows them to be the parasites that they are.Plus they wear tweed at a factor of 2,000:1 to Christians.Tweed.I assume you are at least chuckling when you post stuff like this... Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Most scientific discoveries were made by Christians.Most rapes in this country are done by christians too. But I really don't think this is true about science any more. Pew Research Center Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 But I really don't think this is true about science any more. Pew Research Center 48/48/4 Even Steven! Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 48/48/4 Even Steven!Only 30% of the scientists claim to be christian. Link to post Share on other sites
Skeleton Jelly 2 Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Only 30% of the scientists claim to be christian.I guess I was just looking at religious vs. not.But if it's Christian vs. atheist, don't Christians win? Link to post Share on other sites
Balloon guy 158 Posted January 18, 2011 Author Share Posted January 18, 2011 I guess I was just looking at religious vs. not.But if it's Christian vs. atheist, don't Christians win?We win by being better looking, better people, right about things and going to heaven.They can win the pie chart thing if they want. Link to post Share on other sites
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