Ninja Ace 1 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Then checks the flop...I hate these wonky min 4bets especially when I'm 3bet stealing...then we flop this crap value line? pot control line? I is confuzzledonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersHJ: $15.30 CO: $44.41 Button: $32.92 (Hero)SB: $25.00 BB: $14.48 UTG: $28.00 UTG+1: $72.00 MP: $7.72 MP2: $37.24 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (9 players)2 folds, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, CO raises to $5.75, Hero calls $2.75Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)CO checks, Hero? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I don't 3b light a lot vs 4x opens bc I am a nitIf I do i make it $2.50 or $2.75As played, bet $4.50 and go from there Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 I don't 3b light a lot vs 4x opens bc I am a nitIf someone has a fold to % that makes it correct why would the size of their standard open (aside from standard open shoving and other such nonsense) affect your decision? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 Then checks the flop...I hate these wonky min 4bets especially when I'm 3bet stealing...then we flop this crap value line? pot control line? I is confuzzledonce a cow has a taste for violence, it reverts. it becomes feral.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 9 playersHJ: $15.30 CO: $44.41 Button: $32.92 (Hero)SB: $25.00 BB: $14.48 UTG: $28.00 UTG+1: $72.00 MP: $7.72 MP2: $37.24 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (9 players)2 folds, 3 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3, 2 folds, CO raises to $5.75, Hero calls $2.75Flop: ($11.85) (2 players)CO checks, Hero? I think a nice little $8 bet makes a turn shove automatic, which is what we're setting up.Oh, and I hate your PF play FWIW Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 If someone has a fold to % that makes it correct why would the size of their standard open (aside from standard open shoving and other such nonsense) affect your decision?well with a read it's fine...If they fold to more than like 72% it's profitable to 3b any two, right... so go nutsJust saying I'd 3b smaller to give myself a better priceAnd i'd fold to the 4b regardless of sizing Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted January 3, 2011 Author Share Posted January 3, 2011 If they fold to more than like 72% it's profitable to 3b any two, right... so go nutsJust saying I'd 3b smaller to give myself a better priceNot nuts but I think hands with blockers or that play well against flatted 3bets are automagic. You might be onto something about me not mashing the pot button though.And i'd fold to the 4b regardless of sizingso i can't go "i has a ace in positionz and i is 30/70 against everythin but aces and no wayz da case ace will cum if u has eeet"?Serious question. Even a smallish 7 or 8 or me being OOP and I autofold. Link to post Share on other sites
CobaltBlue 662 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I probably fold the first or second time.Like KJ said, I don't like going over the top of 4x opens as much. My feeling is that they're typically a little more heavily weighted towards value than 3.5x or less. That said, I like the 3-bet sizing pre if we're going that route. When he 4-bets, I just don't think we're really deep enough to call. If he'd min-re-raised, I could see the flat. I realize that it's quite small, but I think it's still a bit too much of our stack. I dislike it, but I guess I don't hate it. Flop comes...he says he has KK...maybe AK...or is getting tricky with AA/QQ/AQ. I can get behind checking back or betting. Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 i dont think i call the 4 bet you flopped gold. hope he has AK, bet big and snap off a shove imo Link to post Share on other sites
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