vbnautilus 48 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 He's saying that he will do all he can to convince them of his beliefsI think this is not something parents should do. At all. A parent's job should be to teach their children how to find out what's true and what isn't. If brvheart does a good job of that, and if his beliefs correspond to the truth, then his children are likely to share them. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Well, only that one trouble-making girl can claim that.What was that one TV show, or maybe it was a movie, where the dad would let his kids do whatever they want and would get mad if anyone tried to tell them they shouldn't do something? Anyone? Help me out here.She is a trouble maker. She's pretty and spunky and she's going to be trouble in high school.Also, there is no way it's not Big Daddy. That's the movie where the kid stays up unutil like 2am and eats ketchup all day.By the way, my kids don't cower in fear, ever. Spankings are always proceeded with a long talk and immediately followed up with a long snuggle. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I've never seen Big Daddy! Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 By the way, my kids don't cower in fear, ever. Spankings are always proceeded with a long talk and immediately followed up with a long snuggle.man that sounds so damn creepy. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I'm just trying to figure out which part is the biggest punishment: the spanking, the long talk ("I'm not mad, I'm disappointed"), or the post-punishment snuggle. I think we just found a new poll question! Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 How old do you guys think his kids are? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 How old do you guys think his kids are?12, 10, 8, 5. I don't even know if he has 4 kids but that seems about right. Link to post Share on other sites
speedz99 145 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 She is a trouble maker. She's pretty and spunky and she's going to be trouble in high school.I almost just made the most inappropriate joke of all time. I think I only stopped myself because of the .0001% chance that someday someone I love might see it and never look at me the same way again.By the way, my kids don't cower in fear, ever. Spankings are always proceeded with a long talk and immediately followed up with a long snuggle.SUPER CREEPY!Is that really how spankings work? I thought parents just got really pissed, did the spanks while yelling about what the kid did wrong, then had the talk after. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 12, 10, 8, 5.7, 5, 4.I almost just made the most inappropriate joke of all time. I think I only stopped myself because of the .0001% chance that someday someone I love might see it and never look at me the same way again. Hi Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 man that sounds so damn creepy.It's creepy to hang out with your kids?I'm just trying to figure out which part is the biggest punishment: the spanking, the long talk ("I'm not mad, I'm disappointed"), or the post-punishment snuggle. I think we just found a new poll question!My kids actually love me, so it's not a punishment to hang out. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 I almost just made the most inappropriate joke of all time. I think I only stopped myself because of the .0001% chance that someday someone I love might see it and never look at me the same way again.pussy.SUPER CREEPY!Whatever, weird-o.Is that really how spankings work? I thought parents just got really pissed, did the spanks while yelling about what the kid did wrong, then had the talk after.I actually love my kids. I made my wife promise that we would never ever spank our kids angry. So if we're ever angry, they have to sit on their bed and wait for mom to calm down. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 12, 10, 8, 5. I don't even know if he has 4 kids but that seems about right. 7, 5, 4. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Your wife must've been in a constant state of pregnancy for about four years. Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted November 22, 2011 Author Share Posted November 22, 2011 Correct. I think that it would be obvious that that person wasn't serious about following Christ. If you are following Christ you are going to change your lifestyle. I have had TWO different friends who gave their life to Christ only AFTER making a long decision to quit drinking. It wasn't because drinking was bad, but it was because they were alcoholic drunks and knew that they wouldn't be able to not get drunk if they continued to drink. They were "all-in" as it were, and were willing to quit drinking entirely in order to avoid the temptation to get drunk.The answer to the exclusion question is absolutely yes. It's Biblical that if your brother (in Christ) continues to live in sin that you shouldn't associate with him. This is because if you show him that you are complacent with him living in sin, then it will not only infect you and your family, but it will look very hypocritical to the outside world. We are supposed to hate sin, so how can we willingly ignore it? I can find verse on it, if you need me to.This is one of the main issues that "real" Christians have with other detonations, like Catholics or Episcopalians or whatever. Catholics have almost no issue with being drunk or with living with a girlfriend. I have witnessed a Catholic priest telling a guy that he should move in with his girlfriend so that he knows so sure that they were a match. And yet they are staunchly anti-birth control... WHICH ISN'T EVEN IN THE BIBLE. It's ridiculous. Most pastors I know will refuse to marry two "Christians" that are living together. My kids know that the only "curse" word that gives them a spank is saying "God" "oh my God" or "Jesus. Anything else is just a talk. (I don't think any of them have ever cussed). HOWEVER, the "taking God's name in vain thing" is OT and not repeated in the NT, therefore, I think you could make a case that it's not a sin. I however, am teaching my kids to be extremely respectful of God, since I think he deserves it.I'm trying to be patient with you SA, I really am... but we have been over this ad nauseam, and you are so hateful of religion in general, that it's really affecting your mental abilities in this area. The entire point of him saying that was to reinforce the impossibility of us saving ourselves. In the face of the impossible, the only option is turning to Christ.Again, Jesus didn't "change" any of the standards. God standards are exactly the same. The justification of our sins is what changed. We no longer have to know and understand all the rules perfectly. We just have to have a heart to follow Christ and we can let Him take care of all that stuff.So, are they going to hell for this? If other faiths are doing it wrong is there any repurcussions? Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 My kids actually love me, so it's not a punishment to hang out.All parents think that. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 All parents think that.I think that's because it's almost universally true. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 So, are they going to hell for this? If other faiths are doing it wrong is there any repurcussions?I definitely think it's possible for them to still be saved, however, it definitely calls lots of things into question. Like... do you read the Bible? Do you just ignore stuff you don't like? Why not just start a new religion, instead of using the "Christian" name, if you don't care what Jesus CHRIST actually said? Also, I have never said, and never implied, that committing a certain sin will send you to hell. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 It's creepy to hang out with your kids?if you do it like that it is. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 if you do it like that it is.If you seriously think that, I immediately feel terrible for you.It's not your fault, SuitedAces21. It's not your fault. Link to post Share on other sites
BillyPilgrim 1 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 don't fuck with me brvy. not you.[maybe i find it creepy because i'm reminded of a tv show where this serial rapist targeted old women and made them cuddle with him afterwords]{probably also has to do with how strongly i abhor spanking}<perhaps> Link to post Share on other sites
Roll the Bones 74 Posted November 23, 2011 Author Share Posted November 23, 2011 I definitely think it's possible for them to still be saved, however, it definitely calls lots of things into question. Like... do you read the Bible? Do you just ignore stuff you don't like? Why not just start a new religion, instead of using the "Christian" name, if you don't care what Jesus CHRIST actually said? Also, I have never said, and never implied, that committing a certain sin will send you to hell.So, you hear that BG? Brv thinks you are doing it wrong and are going to hell.btw, I've always thought you had really cute kids. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 BG isn't Catholic. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 So, you hear that BG? Brv thinks you are doing it wrong and are going to hell.btw, I've always thought you had really cute kids.I'm not sure what you think BG believes, but he and I see eye-to-eye on almost everything related to the Bible.Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 don't fuck with me brvy. not you.[maybe i find it creepy because i'm reminded of a tv show where this serial rapist targeted old women and made them cuddle with him afterwords]{probably also has to do with how strongly i abhor spanking}<perhaps>Yeah, if you are comparing rape to spankings (in your head), you have a really skewed view of discipline. Link to post Share on other sites
Dread Aidan 8 Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 I'm not sure what you think BG believes... Every night before you go to bed, spank your children.If you don't know why, they do. Link to post Share on other sites
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