HangukMiguk 8 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 I'm pretty sure it would take a change in Federal Law to allow that. States can offer games in state but to offer beyond their own state isn't something that current law allows I don't think.Pretty sure this is correct, violates interstate wire act, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
BellaireDrew 2 Posted December 14, 2010 Share Posted December 14, 2010 hey I dont cheat **** face and if I ever see you in person I will let you know with a neck punch douche nozzle. When you make a statement like that have something to back it up. Its dickheads like you that make me want to go elsewhere. Hope you show up to WSOP 2011 bud.lol, are you real? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 The legislation has passed and now it's up to Governor Christie to veto it or it will become law.My guess is that Poker Stars and Full Tilt will most likely stop serving New Jersey players.http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/01/legi...te-onl-9630.htm Legislation Passes in New Jersey to License and Regulate Online Poker2011 January 10, Matthew KredellMark down January 10, 2011, as an historic day for online poker. There is a winner in the race to legalize Internet poker in the U.S.New Jersey became the first state to pass legislation to license and regulate online poker Monday as the State Assembly voted 63-11 to approve a bill that would permit Internet wagering for New Jersey residents through hubs based at Atlantic City casinos. The State Senate had passed the bill 29-5 in November.The legislation now will go to the desk of Gov. Chris Christie. He has 45 days to sign it into law, conditionally veto it (returning it to the legislature for changes) or veto it absolutely. If no action is taken during the 45 days, the bill automatically becomes law. Gov. Christie hasn't taken a public stance on this bill but he has made it a priority to improve the revenue stream for Atlantic City, so it is not believed he would veto it. Unless a different date is specified in the final version of the bill, the law would take effect July 4.The bill allows not only for poker to be offered online but also casino games and other forms of gambling.ARTICLE CONTINUED AT LINKRead more: http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/01/legi...te-onl-9630.htm Link to post Share on other sites
mrpaddyx 13 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 The legislation has passed and now it's up to Governor Christie to veto it or it will become law.My guess is that Poker Stars and Full Tilt will most likely stop serving New Jersey players.http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/01/legi...te-onl-9630.htm Is there no way for Full Tilt and Pokerstars to become integrated into the new system? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Is there no way for Full Tilt and Pokerstars to become integrated into the new system?I'm no expert on the contents of the New Jersey legislation but I'm pretty sure the only organizations who will be allowed to get a New Jersey license are the current brick and mortar casinos. It's possible that Stars and Tilt may work with those casinos offering software and tech support but even if they do the licensed sites won't be able to merge their New Jersey players with those from outside the State.The thing that might keep Stars and Tilt offering games to players from New Jersey is that the legislation may not make it specifically illegal for an out of State online casino to offer games to New Jersey players. If that's the case then it's possible that New Jersey players might have the best of both Worlds, access to the large player bases and the rest of the World through a site like Poker Stars and access to locally licensed New Jersey casinos. Link to post Share on other sites
Lord_anarchy 0 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 ****. Link to post Share on other sites
hblask 1 Posted January 13, 2011 Share Posted January 13, 2011 It seems to me the most likely option is that Harrah's will team up with Stars or Tilt, so that the new site is Harrah's-Pokerstars Online Poker. That way the casinos don't have to start from scratch, and Stars and Tilt have a way in.Where it gets tricky is letting people from other states play... I'm sure NJ would be happy for the tax money, so I doubt they would object. And any states that want in on the action would probably have to provide a way to join a network, like they do with Powerball.Another likely result is a few states, like Washington and probably Utah, would specifically ban anyone from playing on these networks, so yeah, those states would be screwed.And within a couple years, the feds would have to straighten it all out and make federal rules. Link to post Share on other sites
isap 0 Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 It seems to me the most likely option is that Harrah's will team up with Stars or Tilt, so that the new site is Harrah's-Pokerstars Online Poker. That way the casinos don't have to start from scratch, and Stars and Tilt have a way in.You may think so because your thinking is poker-centric. But poker is only one source of income for casinos - and realistically why would the casino save a few months of software development time at the expense of losing a chunk of the action that they've lobbied hard to monopolize?If NJ players are *very* lucky, Stars and Tilt will continue offering games to NJ players because the law doesn't explicitly stop them from doing so. Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted February 19, 2011 Author Share Posted February 19, 2011 http://www.nypost.com/p/news/business/all_...H3YWdHcltkJPsHNIt's looking like Governor Christie is going to veto the Bill and that the State Assembly won't try and override it so it's going to die. Link to post Share on other sites
RakeMyBlind 0 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 hey I dont cheat **** face and if I ever see you in person I will let you know with a neck punch douche nozzle. When you make a statement like that have something to back it up. Its dickheads like you that make me want to go elsewhere. Hope you show up to WSOP 2011 bud.You sure you want to go straight for the neck punch? That seems very exploitable. Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 What odds can I get on herly ever showing up at a WSOP? Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 wouldnt take less than 500-1 Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted February 19, 2011 Share Posted February 19, 2011 wouldnt take less than 800-1 Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted March 4, 2011 Author Share Posted March 4, 2011 Christie Veteos the BillPress Release from Christie's officehttp://www.state.nj.us/governor/news/news/.../20110303b.htmlhttp://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/03/new-...mbling-9950.htm New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie vetoed a bill Thursday that would have allowed New Jersey to become the first state to offer legal and regulated Internet poker. State Sen. Raymond Lesniak, who introduced the legislation, said he was not optimistic that the bill could be revived any time soon."Unless we can work something out, the governor has blown a huge opportunity to create jobs and bring revenues into Atlantic City and make New Jersey the Silicon Valley of the new wave of Internet gambling," Lesniak said in a phone interview. "His veto message was so discouraging that I'm not particularly optimistic we can reach an agreement with regard to his concerns."Lesniak blamed powerful Casino giant Caesars Entertainment, formerly known as Harrah's, for the governor's decision."I think it lies in that one casino, Harrah's, which is run out of Nevada, has an inordinate influence on this process," Lesniak said. "They spent millions of dollars lobbying in Washington and they don't want any state, particularly New Jersey, to take the lead on this. They hired (Christie's) campaign manager, contributed millions of dollars to support his campaign for governor and on his transition report on gaming, which came out against Internet gaming and sports betting. They don't care about New Jersey. They care about their corporate interests in Nevada. I understand that, but I care about New Jersey. Their position is harmful to Atlantic City casinos and the state."Read more: http://www.pokernews.com/news/2011/03/new-...mbling-9950.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 One thing that will be common to all State regulation is that you can expect it to make it clear that only regulated sites are legally allowed to offer gaming to players in that State which I would expect to mean a site like Poker Stars will stop serving players from that State. My guess is that Poker Stars and Full Tilt will most likely stop serving New Jersey players.I know this thing has been vetoed and that I'm late to the party, but can you explain why you would have expected PS and FT to stop serving New Jersey players had the bill been passed? I mean, they still serve players in the US everywhere even though it's not legal on a federal level, right? So why would another law at a state level stop them? Link to post Share on other sites
FCP Bob 1,312 Posted March 8, 2011 Author Share Posted March 8, 2011 I know this thing has been vetoed and that I'm late to the party, but can you explain why you would have expected PS and FT to stop serving New Jersey players had the bill been passed? I mean, they still serve players in the US everywhere even though it's not legal on a federal level, right? So why would another law at a state level stop them?Poker Stars position is that they aren't currently breaking Federal Law by offering poker to Americans outside of Washington State. If any other States come out with legislation that explicitly makes it illegal for Stars to offer poker then I'm pretty sure that Stars will pull out of that State and any State regulation is going to include prohibitions against non-licensed sites from offering gaming in that State. Link to post Share on other sites
Swift_Psycho 1 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 Poker Stars position is that they aren't currently breaking Federal Law by offering poker to Americans outside of Washington State. If any other States come out with legislation that explicitly makes it illegal for Stars to offer poker then I'm pretty sure that Stars will pull out of that State and any State regulation is going to include prohibitions against non-licensed sites from offering gaming in that State.Ah, I see. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Link to post Share on other sites
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