Am I Shoving Good Here Or Just On A Cooler From Hell?

[CorvairShaggy 5]

OK Maybe this needs to go under bad beats , but I am just wanting to make sure I am getting it in correctly here. Is this just a typical variance swing here?? In the past 6 months I feel like I have ran bad for a few games, or a day or two, but right now mentally I'm f$%^&ed. This is just a sample of the past hour, but this same thing has been happening for 4 days now, and over about 30-35 games. Am I shoving in wrong spots here, need to be 3-betting some of these, etc. It's just frustrating when you go deep in these and FT cash big a few times, then go on a run where you can't get back to even min-cashing. Is there any major problems here?!?!?!? $3r 180-man Here, eatyourstac was a supernova playing a bunch of tables, and he would open shove from the jump, but showed any paint, that is why I made this move. Got lucky here. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t15/t30 - 9 playersUTG+1 kockas15: t2,900 MP madein1984: t2,975 MP2 th€.special1: t3,005 HJ eatyourstac: t3,150 CO DuduPoker-Br: t4,430 Button Chip_Coach: t3,120 SB Hero: t2,860 BB alicia369: t1,500 UTG phzfan: t1,560 Preflop: (t45) Hero is SB with (9 players)4 folds, eatyourstac raises to t3150 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls t2845 and is all-in, alicia369 foldsFlop: (t5,750) (2 players)Turn: (t5,750) (2 players)River: (t5,750) (2 players)eatyourstac showed , and lost with high card AceHero showed , and won (5750) with a pair of JacksHero won t5750----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t100/t200 - 8 playersCO kockas15: t4,455 Button madein1984: t2,210 SB th€.special1: t6,035 BB eatyourstac: t5,825 UTG DuduPoker-Br: t6,725 UTG+1 Chip_Coach: t3,095 MP Hero: t5,025 HJ phzfan: t1,130 Preflop: (t300) Hero is MP with (8 players)2 folds, Hero raises to t600, 2 folds, madein1984 raises to t2210 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls t1610Flop: (t4,720) (2 players)Turn: (t4,720) (2 players)River: (t4,720) (2 players)madein1984 showed , and won (4720) with two pair, Tens and FoursHero showed , and lost with a pair of Foursmadein1984 won t4720-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t125/t250 ante t25 - 9 playersMP spel91: t11,925 MP2 pricopmarius: t18,982 HJ VVSS: t4,874 CO roy1005: t3,925 Button disko_101: t3,975 SB ModernBenoni: t17,674 BB dlighted1: t7,985 UTG Hero: t5,565 UTG+1 PAO_IDUL17: t8,915 Preflop: (t600) Hero is UTG with (9 players)Hero raises to t750, 4 folds, roy1005 raises to t3900 and is all-in, 3 folds, Hero calls t3150Flop: (t8,400) (2 players)Turn: (t8,400) (2 players)River: (t8,400) (2 players)roy1005 showed , and won (8400) with two pair, Aces and TensHero showed , and lost with two pair, Aces and Tensroy1005 won t8400------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t125/t250 ante t25 - 9 playersUTG spel91: t11,875 UTG+1 pricopmarius: t10,557 MP VVSS: t4,824 MP2 roy1005: t17,350 HJ disko_101: t3,925 CO ModernBenoni: t17,499 Button dlighted1: t7,560 SB Hero: t1,365 BB PAO_IDUL17: t8,865 Preflop: (t600) Hero is SB with (9 players)spel91 folds, pricopmarius raises to t1000, 5 folds, Hero raises to t1340 and is all-in, PAO_IDUL17 folds, pricopmarius calls t340Flop: (t3,155) (2 players)Turn: (t3,155) (2 players)River: (t3,155) (2 players)pricopmarius showed , and won (3155) with two pair, Kings and FoursHero showed , and lost with a pair of Queenspricopmarius won t3155------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Another Tournament $3r 180 PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t50/t100 - 9 playersBB ppapak52: t1,375 UTG RalphAFCA: t3,110 UTG+1 Jochurt: t1,345 MP logykz: t2,220 MP2 vamplursmit7: t1,595 HJ vanderstaass: t3,665 CO Hero: t2,035 Button louloudakos: t3,080 SB CvilleGolf: t1,035 Preflop: (t150) Hero is CO with (9 players)RalphAFCA raises to t3110 and is all-in, Jochurt folds, logykz calls t2220 and is all-in, 2 folds, Hero calls t2035 and is all-in, 3 foldsFlop: (t6,625) (3 players)Turn: (t6,625) (3 players)River: (t6,625) (3 players)RalphAFCA showed , and lost with two pair, Nines and Sevenslogykz showed , and won (370) with two pair, Queens and NinesHero showed , and won (6255) with a full house, Eights full of Nineslogykz won t370Hero won t6255-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t200/t400 ante t50 - 8 playersUTG elgringou69: t3,560 UTG+1 RalphAFCA: t4,960 MP qwasek1981: t9,560 HJ zanzie: t13,555 CO vanderstaass: t4,165 Button Hero: t8,850 SB louloudakos: t3,425 BB CvilleGolf: t12,570 Preflop: (t1,000) Hero is Button with (8 players)2 folds, qwasek1981 folds, zanzie folds, vanderstaass raises to t4115 and is all-in, Hero raises to t8800 and is all-in, 2 foldsFlop: (t9,230) (2 players)Turn: (t9,230) (2 players)River: (t9,230) (2 players)vanderstaass showed , and won (9230) with a flush, King highHero showed , and lost with a pair of Jacksvanderstaass won t9230-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Very Next Hand: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t200/t400 ante t50 - 9 playersBB elgringou69: t3,510 UTG RalphAFCA: t4,910 UTG+1 qwasek1981: t9,510 MP zanzie: t13,505 MP2 schinkel1: t12,867 HJ vanderstaass: t9,230 CO Hero: t4,685 Button louloudakos: t3,175 SB CvilleGolf: t12,120 Preflop: (t1,050) Hero is CO with (9 players)4 folds, vanderstaass raises to t9180 and is all-in, Hero calls t4635 and is all-in, 3 foldsFlop: (t10,320) (2 players)Turn: (t10,320) (2 players)River: (t10,320) (2 players)vanderstaass showed , and lost with a pair of KingsHero showed , and won (10320) with three of a kind, KingsHero won t10320Converted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t300/t600 ante t50 - 8 playersBB elgringou69: t3,860 UTG RalphAFCA: t3,960 UTG+1 Darada44: t7,139 MP zanzie: t13,555 HJ schinkel1: t13,667 CO vanderstaass: t3,545 Button Hero: t9,120 SB CvilleGolf: t12,620 Preflop: (t1,300) Hero is Button with (8 players)RalphAFCA raises to t3910 and is all-in, Darada44 raises to t7089 and is all-in, 3 folds, Hero raises to t9070 and is all-in, 2 foldsFlop: (t19,388) (3 players)Turn: (t19,388) (3 players)River: (t19,388) (3 players)RalphAFCA showed , and lost with three of a kind, TensDarada44 showed , and won (19388) with a full house, Tens full of KingsHero showed , and lost with a full house, Tens full of JacksDarada44 won t19388-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t300/t600 ante t50 - 8 playersMP goodfriendge: t7,200 HJ Darada44: t18,288 CO zanzie: t12,405 Button schinkel1: t12,517 SB vanderstaass: t3,995 BB Hero: t3,081 UTG louloudakos: t7,135 UTG+1 CvilleGolf: t13,370 Preflop: (t1,300) Hero is BB with (8 players)louloudakos raises to t7085 and is all-in, 6 folds, Hero calls t2431 and is all-inFlop: (t6,762) (2 players)Turn: (t6,762) (2 players)River: (t6,762) (2 players)Hero showed , and won (6762) with a pair of Kingslouloudakos showed , and lost with high card AceHero won t6762---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------A hold, for a change: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t400/t800 ante t75 - 8 playersHJ goodfriendge: t5,575 CO paschan: t3,935 Button Darada44: t21,863 SB zanzie: t12,980 BB schinkel1: t15,471 UTG vanderstaass: t3,270 UTG+1 Hero: t7,787 MP CvilleGolf: t12,545 Preflop: (t1,800) Hero is UTG+1 with (8 players)vanderstaass raises to t3195 and is all-in, Hero raises to t7712 and is all-in, 6 foldsFlop: (t8,190) (2 players)Turn: (t8,190) (2 players)River: (t8,190) (2 players)vanderstaass showed , and lost with a pair of FoursHero showed , and won (8190) with two pair, Sevens and FoursHero won t8190------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Very next hand: PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t400/t800 ante t75 - 7 playersUTG+1 goodfriendge: t5,500 HJ paschan: t3,860 CO Darada44: t21,788 Button zanzie: t12,505 SB schinkel1: t14,596 BB Hero: t12,707 UTG CvilleGolf: t12,470 Preflop: (t1,725) Hero is BB with (7 players)CvilleGolf folds, goodfriendge calls t800, 3 folds, schinkel1 calls t400, Hero checksFlop: (t2,925) (3 players)schinkel1 checks, Hero checks, goodfriendge checksTurn: (t2,925) (3 players)schinkel1 checks, Hero bets t1750, 2 foldsHero collected t2925----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- An the very next hand after that one PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t500/t1000 ante t100 - 9 playersMP goodfriendge: t4,625 MP2 paschan: t3,785 HJ Darada44: t21,713 CO zanzie: t12,430 Button schinkel1: t13,721 SB MB_200: t27,191 BB Hero: t14,757 UTG denimryder: t12,395 UTG+1 CvilleGolf: t12,395 Preflop: (t2,300) Hero is BB with (9 players)CvilleGolf folds, goodfriendge raises to t4525 and is all-in, 4 folds, Hero raises to t14657 and is all-in, denimryder foldsFlop: (t10,850) (3 players)Turn: (t10,850) (3 players)River: (t10,850) (3 players)goodfriendge showed , and won (10850) with a straight, Four to EightHero showed , and lost with a pair of Jacksgoodfriendge won t10850-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And finally, 6 hands later for the finisher PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t600/t1200 ante t125 - 8 playersMP goodfriendge: t10,250 HJ _LIGHT-3-BET: t48,304 CO Darada44: t19,113 Button zanzie: t22,725 SB schinkel1: t12,121 BB MB_200: t30,491 UTG Hero: t9,632 UTG+1 CvilleGolf: t15,095 Preflop: (t2,800) Hero is UTG with (8 players)Hero raises to t9507 and is all-in, 6 folds, MB_200 calls t8307Flop: (t20,614) (2 players)Turn: (t20,614) (2 players)River: (t20,614) (2 players)MB_200 showed , and won (20614) with three of a kind, EightsHero showed , and lost with a pair of AcesMB_200 won t20614

[HighwayStar 8]

1. KJs - fold2. KQs fine3. AJo - 600 or fold pre and fold to the reshove unless he's very loose - (edit he's in later position than I originally read - raise calling AJ is here is probably okay although not a huge winning play. Depends a lot on how loose the player is)4. QTs- i'd fold since you are against an UTG+1 range and you're gonna get shove spots in the next few hands5. 88 - close6. AJo - good7. KQo - unless he's batshit insane, fold, call from blinds 8. JJ - probably kinda close but I'd never fold in game.9. AKo - lol?10. 77- fine11. 22 - If you're ask if I'd jam this pre then the answer is no. 55+12. JJ - lol? (edit - I think the HH messed up here...says someone folded after you shoved from BB...did UTG limp or something?)13. A7o - I looked this up and it's a fold (edit - altohugh I think it's okay if the table is playing fairly tight)

[CorvairShaggy 5]

1. KJs - fold2. KQs fine3. AJo - 600 or fold pre and fold to the reshove unless he's very loose - (edit he's in later position than I originally read - raise calling AJ is here is probably okay although not a huge winning play. Depends a lot on how loose the player is)4. QTs- i'd fold since you are against an UTG+1 range and you're gonna get shove spots in the next few hands5. 88 - close6. AJo - good7. KQo - unless he's batshit insane, fold, call from blinds 8. JJ - probably kinda close but I'd never fold in game.9. AKo - lol?10. 77- fine11. 22 - If you're ask if I'd jam this pre then the answer is no. 55+12. JJ - lol? (edit - I think the HH messed up here...says someone folded after you shoved from BB...did UTG limp or something?)13. A7o - I looked this up and it's a fold (edit - altohugh I think it's okay if the table is playing fairly tight)

Cool. Thanks for going over all of that. Basically I need to tighten a little more, and pay more attention to where v's are shoving from. Allright here is two more. Went deep again, but here was 2 questionable hands.BTW- on #12 I was SB. BB folded.BTW - I finally broke my 0-35 sng streak, with a 3rd place $3 18 man. I feel not much better tho.$3r 180-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t400/t800 ante t75 - 8 playersHJ ph1shman420: t8,450 CO polutz: t8,455 Button Hero: t20,810 SB Ráyie: t5,650 BB harlem champ: t6,975 UTG sirnik2: t14,565 UTG+1 edxpress: t21,200 MP easthunter2: t7,250 Preflop: (t1,800) Hero is Button with (8 players)sirnik2 folds, edxpress calls t800, 3 folds, Hero raises to t2150, 2 folds, edxpress raises to t21125 and is all-in, Hero foldsedxpress collected t6100Ok. Here I basically did not want to flip for stacks. I might have been behind to AK already. Now, when your this deep against an unknown that got moved to the table just a few hands before, and you are this deep and about 50 players left, is AK suited JJ+ a good range here???-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------This converter is going to be a cash cow...PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($3.00+$0.30) t800/t1600 ante t150 - 7 playersUTG+1 kirkboel: t12,100 HJ polutz: t15,855 CO Hero: t11,560 Button Felipefam: t29,160 SB sirnik2: t30,571 BB shadowb86: t31,870 UTG FMLtilliWin: t56,028 Preflop: (t3,450) Hero is CO with (7 players)FMLtilliWin raises to t3200, 2 folds, Hero raises to t11410 and is all-in, 3 folds, FMLtilliWin calls t8210Flop: (t26,270) (2 players)Turn: (t26,270) (2 players) OK here was classic case of me not putting UTG on range here?? I was under 10 BBs at this point, so is this an unavoidable call, or just calling too light with AJ? AQ suited or JJ+ here??? I went out in 39th here. Thanks again!!!!

[HighwayStar 8]

Raise bigger with the AQo (2650) and I'd probably call off there as a default. I think you're against a lot of pairs/random broadways and a few hand that crush you. To be honest I don't mind just jamming initially although most will think it's a little on the big side.w/AJs that guy is a reg and I can't remember exactly hw he plays. He's never raise folding but he does have a lot of chips so is probably not super tight here. He won't have random trash in his since he is committed to calling half of the stacks at the table but I reckon AJs is going to be in good shape against his range.This is probably the worst ace I get in here vs a normal reg. You should be getting in at least 8s if you're getting in AJ...maybe 77 ...AQ+ JJ+ is not a compatible range.

[CorvairShaggy 5]

Raise bigger with the AQo (2650) and I'd probably call off there as a default. I think you're against a lot of pairs/random broadways and a few hand that crush you. To be honest I don't mind just jamming initially although most will think it's a little on the big side.w/AJs that guy is a reg and I can't remember exactly hw he plays. He's never raise folding but he does have a lot of chips so is probably not super tight here. He won't have random trash in his since he is committed to calling half of the stacks at the table but I reckon AJs is going to be in good shape against his range.This is probably the worst ace I get in here vs a normal reg. You should be getting in at least 8s if you're getting in AJ...maybe 77 ...AQ+ JJ+ is not a compatible range.

Gotcha. There's too many damn regs in these $3 rebuy. One last thing to pick your brain with. If you are at 15bbs and about 40 people or so left, if you have A10 suited UTG with the blinds at 800/1600, are you just open shoving here?? This happened earlier, and I raised a little, got 2 callers, 10 comes on the flop as highest card dry board. I shove, get 2 callers all similar stacks, and get drawn out on. Should this be a fold or open shove from UTG with ~15bbs??Thanks again for your help. I finished 1st in a $3 18 man, so I am getting warmer, and been going deeper and deeper in the $3 r, but just can't get back to the promise land.

[rrumsey 0]

in rebuy period? hand one is a spew imobc if not i fold hand 2, but if it is then thats fine.hand 3, i like to 2.2 or 2.5X pre and fold to 3 bets. FOLD THE 8's, wild gamble imothe jacks hand, i know it is painful but you are not looking great. i would maybe fold if i was on my game. the a7 hand, im not folding that pre to open a pot with that stack. even more so being UTG with a tight preceived range. easy ship imo. the AQ hand im not folding pre, too strong. i could let Aj off go.

[HighwayStar 8]

Gotcha. There's too many damn regs in these $3 rebuy. One last thing to pick your brain with. If you are at 15bbs and about 40 people or so left, if you have A10 suited UTG with the blinds at 800/1600, are you just open shoving here?? This happened earlier, and I raised a little, got 2 callers, 10 comes on the flop as highest card dry board. I shove, get 2 callers all similar stacks, and get drawn out on. Should this be a fold or open shove from UTG with ~15bbs??Thanks again for your help. I finished 1st in a $3 18 man, so I am getting warmer, and been going deeper and deeper in the $3 r, but just can't get back to the promise land.

edit - one thing I'm reading tells me this is a profitable shove, another does not. It's very borderline and I'd usually fold unless the table was playing super tight. I'd very rarely open.0/35 is ultra standard. I probably do it once every three or four sessions. I once went 0/75

[CorvairShaggy 5]

No, all of the hands above are WAY after the rebuy period. I can get thru that just fine, alot of times with starting with 3k chips, and add on. I have trouble deeper in, as you can tell. Still just too loose.I am a gambler by nature, not a strategic guy, so it is hard to get out of that "throw some shit at the wall and see if it sticks". But, I have got alot better at folding Ace-rags and small PPs OOP and OP if the situation calls for it. Just still have leaks to fix, as would be expected for someone that has only been playing "seriously" for 8 months, but cannot get much volume in on a weekly basis. If things don't turn tonight, I will be broke for the first time in 3 months. Not bad for starting with $100, and cashing out over $200+ in the past 3 months.I only play 5-7 games per night, so 4 days with no min cash playing $3r and $6.50 18-man and $10 DONs and even $3 18-man is pathetic. Now, you play like 100+ a night, so 0-35 is just a bad couple of hours for you , but you are also playing in tougher games.Also, looks like I keep putting myself in flip situations, which I ned to get better at recognizing them and laying those down.Don't know if I am having fun playing or enjoying the ass kicking and frustration

[HighwayStar 8]

Also, looks like I keep putting myself in flip situations, which I ned to get better at recognizing them and laying those down.

Nothing wrong with flipping.Shaundeeb said (a long time ago) that if you're not getting your money in bad fairly often in tournaments, you're not getting your money in often enough.

[CorvairShaggy 5]

Nothing wrong with flipping.Shaundeeb said (a long time ago) that if you're not getting your money in bad fairly often in tournaments, you're not getting your money in often enough.

Good Point. Today was a good hands-on learning day. I have been at it for 9 hours now, by far the longest session I have ever played. I've got a few $$ left, so I think it is time to run great or redeposit this week. Thanks for all the info. I swear I am learning, just wish it would show.

[rrumsey 0]

Good Point. Today was a good hands-on learning day. I have been at it for 9 hours now, by far the longest session I have ever played. I've got a few $$ left, so I think it is time to run great or redeposit this week. Thanks for all the info. I swear I am learning, just wish it would show.

in rebuys the variance is going to be big bc you effectively putting a ton of games into one, so a few big cashes make up for a huge # of BI's spent. you got to go big to be able to make money in them

[HighwayStar 8]

in rebuys the variance is going to be big bc you effectively putting a ton of games into one, so a few big cashes make up for a huge # of BI's spent. you got to go big to be able to make money in them

There is a lot less variance in rebuys for various reasons. Mostly the dead money of the people who don't make it out of the rebuy period and the fact that they play deeper in general thus leading to higher ROIs for the more skilled players.

[CorvairShaggy 5]

There is a lot less variance in rebuys for various reasons. Mostly the dead money of the people who don't make it out of the rebuy period and the fact that they play deeper in general thus leading to higher ROIs for the more skilled players.

I would have to agree here. Look at my sharkscope for the past 4-6 weeks. Especially the past 2 weeks. In the past 2 weeks I am pretty consistent going out in 40-60th place, and usually in the rebuy I will do the add-on before it starts, and the add on at break. I don't like to get super loose, but need to adjust because I may be leaving money on the table here. Some rebuy periods guys are super loose, and some you may have the same guys at the table all the way through the rebuy and nobody goes bust. On these tighter tables I probably need to loosen up a bit. Not in a sense of shoving, but being more aggressive on the tight starts. At 40-60th, that is when you are in fold/shove mode, and as seen here, is my biggest weakness. In the ones I have cashed big in, I always had a good stack going into 500/1k level, so it is easier (of coarse) to play than being at only ~10bbs. If I can be consistent going out in 40-60th, why not consistent bubble/min-cash?? To me, if I could get to this, I would be happy, and would give better chances to get into bigger $$$. Anyway, I'll keep plugging away at it. Thanks!!

[HighwayStar 8]

Just as a comparison between 12s and 3Rs. This guy is a solid player who plays a ridiculous volume and you can see how much higher his ROI is in the 3Rs/how much smaller his downswings are relatively.I find the fact he has had a $5k downswing in the 12s recently somewhat terrifying for myself.

[SuperJon 175]

Corvair, do you ever play on FTP?

[CorvairShaggy 5]

Corvair, do you ever play on FTP?

Transfered $100 over there a few weeks ago, just to try out Rush. Lost it, and don't care for rush. Why do you ask?? I hear it is easier there, but comfortable with the PS interface, but I can always get used to another.

[SuperJon 175]

Transfered $100 over there a few weeks ago, just to try out Rush. Lost it, and don't care for rush. Why do you ask?? I hear it is easier there, but comfortable with the PS interface, but I can always get used to another.

The $8.80s are extremely soft, like WAYYYYYY softer than the regular 180 mans on Stars. Although I don't know how they compare to the $3R-180.Here's a hand to show you the type of people that play in these.Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em t20/t40 - 9 playersCO: t2,345 Button: t2,400 SB: t985 BB: t2,895 UTG: t5,060 UTG+1: t3,325 MP: t1,910 MP2: t1,465 (Hero)HJ: t2,855 Preflop: (t60) Hero is MP2 with (9 players)3 folds, Hero raises to t180, HJ calls t180, 4 foldsFlop: (t420) :D (2 players)Hero bets t160, HJ calls t160Turn: (t740) (2 players)Hero bets t260, HJ calls t260River: (t1,260) (2 players)Hero bets t865, and is all in, HJ calls t865Hero showed , and won (2,990) with two pair, Kings and SevensHJ mucked :5hHero won t2,990

[CorvairShaggy 5]

The $8.80s are extremely soft, like WAYYYYYY softer than the regular 180 mans on Stars. Although I don't know how they compare to the $3R-180.

I did not see any $8.80 under SNG, but under All-Tourneys. Is this a scheduled tourney?? Looks like PS has more of a game selection per $ for SNG than FT does. I am in a $6.50 18 man now, and play does look pretty soft compared to the $6.50 18-man on PS. Turbo structure is different and faster than PS. I may redeposit $100 on each and do a table of each for the next week or so and see how it goes.Thanks!EDIT: Thanks Jon, I owe you a beer. Just knocked down 1st in that $6.50. Hopefully not beginners luck.

[SuperJon 175]

I did not see any $8.80 under SNG, but under All-Tourneys. Is this a scheduled tourney?? Looks like PS has more of a game selection per $ for SNG than FT does. I am in a $6.50 18 man now, and play does look pretty soft compared to the $6.50 18-man on PS. Turbo structure is different and faster than PS. I may redeposit $100 on each and do a table of each for the next week or so and see how it goes.Thanks!EDIT: Thanks Jon, I owe you a beer. Just knocked down 1st in that $6.50. Hopefully not beginners luck.

Yeah, the 8.80s are scheduled which kinda sucks, because you have to wait like 35 minutes for the next one to start.The good thing is they're super soft and have a great structure.

[rrumsey 0]

Yeah, the 8.80s are scheduled which kinda sucks, because you have to wait like 35 minutes for the next one to start.The good thing is they're super soft and have a great structure.

i the structure and the average size of those things.