$#*! The Holy Father Says

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"Most of my grandest ideas originated in what I learned as a boy in the Catholic church. My philosophy is, at it's core, a Christian ideal"- Adolf Hitler

He was on the path to be such a good, Christian person until he started dabbling in evolution obv....75% of the people on Death Row are there because they had to read Origin of Species in school.

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"Most of my grandest ideas originated in what I learned as a boy in the Catholic church. My philosophy is, at it's core, a Christian ideal"- Adolf Hitler

If Hitler said he was a little teacup, short and stout, would that make him one?Or would the only thing that makes him a teacup be when he has a handle and a spout?I mean Dawkins claims to be a thinker, and nobody with a brain would ever grant him that.

[vbnautilus 48]

I should probably clarify that I fabricated that quote from Hitler, but now that two people quoted it, it will start to show up in google searches and will make its way onto wikipedia.Within a few months it will be totally true.

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And so to clarify:RR: The Pope is evil for speaking against atheism, which has a pure as the wind driven snow history.BG: Well, not so pure.CB: Every person who ever wore a german uniform hated JewsJJJ: You sure?CB: Most of them.VB: Hitler said he was a Christian.BG: While Christians in Germany were hiding Jews and Hitler was espousing evolution directly in their radio propaganda addresses to the city?VB: Show me Alex Trebek naked.CB: Let me try making up another statistic while ignoring that exaggerating facts in one post is making it harder to continue to exaggerate facts in another.VB: What?BG: It made sense to me.

[Balloon guy 158]

I should probably clarify that I fabricated that quote from Hitler, but now that two people quoted it, it will start to show up in google searches and will make its way onto wikipedia.Within a few months it will be totally true.

You do believe in evolution.Should anyone wish to read what Hitler really said about Christianity:

All of these are quotes from Adolf Hitler:Night of 11th-12th July, 1941: National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things. (p 6 & 7)10th October, 1941, midday: Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure. (p 43)14th October, 1941, midday: The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State. (p 49-52)19th October, 1941, night: The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity.21st October, 1941, midday: Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea. (p 63-65)13th December, 1941, midnight: Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery.... .... When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease. (p 118 & 119)14th December, 1941, midday: Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself.... Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics. (p 119 & 120)9th April, 1942, dinner: There is something very unhealthy about Christianity (p 339)27th February, 1942, midday: It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie. Our epoch Uin the next 200 yearse will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold ." (p 278)

He sounds familiar, Where is crow anyway?

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In a related article, Catholic League president Bill Donohue had this to say:

The pope cited Hitler today, asking everyone to "reflect on the sobering lessons of atheist extremism of the 20th century." Immediately, the British Humanist Association got its back up, accusing the pope of "a terrible libel against those who do not believe in God."The pope did not go far enough. Radical atheists like the British Humanist Association should apologize for Hitler. But they should not stop there. They also need to issue an apology for the 67 million innocent men, women and children murdered under Stalin, and the 77 million innocent Chinese killed by Mao. Hitler, Stalin and Mao were all driven by a radical atheism, a militant and fundamentally dogmatic brand of secular extremism. It was this anti-religious impulse that allowed them to become mass murderers. By contrast, a grand total of 1,394 were killed during the 250 years of the Inquisition, most all of whom were murdered by secular authorities.Why should atheists today apologize for the crimes of others? At one level, it makes no sense: apologies should only be given by the guilty. But on the other hand, since the fanatically anti-Catholic secularists in Britain, and elsewhere, demand that the pope—who is entirely innocent of any misconduct—apologize for the sins of others, let the atheists take some of their own medicine and start apologizing for all the crimes committed in their name. It might prove alembic.

So, since the pope directly protected pedophiles, I have to apologize? Hitler did that in my name? Yowza...

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OK then I will post some real ones too: I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.. -Mein KampfMy feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited.-Adolf Hitler, in his speech in Munich on 12 April 1922We are a people of different faiths, but we are one. Which faith conquers the other is not the question; rather, the question is whether Christianity stands or falls.... We tolerate no one in our ranks who attacks the ideas of Christianity... in fact our movement is Christian. We are filled with a desire for Catholics and Protestants to discover one another in the deep distress of our own people.-Adolf Hitler, in a speech in Passau, 27 October 1928, Bundesarchiv Berlin-Zehlendorf, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]We are determined, as leaders of the nation, to fulfill as a national government the task which has been given to us, swearing fidelity only to God, our conscience, and our Volk.... This the national government will regard its first and foremost duty to restore the unity of spirit and purpose of our Volk. It will preserve and defend the foundations upon which the power of our nation rests. It will take Christianity, as the basis of our collective morality, and the family as the nucleus of our Volk and state, under its firm protection....May God Almighty take our work into his grace, give true form to our will, bless our insight, and endow us with the trust of our Volk.-Adolf Hitler, on 1 Feb. 1933, addressing the German nation as Chancellor for the first time, Volkischer Beobachter, 5 Aug. 1935, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]The Catholic Church considered the Jews pestilent for fifteen hundred years, put them in ghettos, etc, because it recognized the Jews for what they were".... I recognize the representatives of this race as pestilent for the state and for the church and perhaps I am thereby doing Christianity a great service by pushing them out of schools and public functions.-Adolf Hitler, 26 April 1933, [cited from Richard Steigmann-Gall's The Holy Reich]No, it is not we that have deserted Christianity, it is those who came before us who deserted Christianity. We have only carried through a clear division between politics which have to do with terrestrial things, and religion, which must concern itself with the celestial sphere. There has been no interference with the doctrine (Lehre ) of the Confessions or with their religious freedom (Bekenntnisfreiheit ), nor will there be any such interference. On the contrary the State protects religion, though always on the one condition that religion will not be used as a cover for political ends....National Socialism neither opposes the Church nor is it anti-religious, but on the contrary it stands on the ground of a real Christianity.... For their interests cannot fail to coincide with ours alike in our fight against the symptoms of degeneracy in the world of to-day, in our fight against a Bolshevist culture, against atheistic movement, against criminality, and in our struggle for a consciousness of a community in our national life... These are not anti-Christian, these are Christian principles! And I believe that if we should fail to follow these principles then we should to be able to point to our successes, for the result of our political battle is surely not unblest by God.-Adolf Hitler, in his speech at Koblenz, to the Germans of the Saar, 26 Aug. 1934

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In a related article, Catholic League president Bill Donohue had this to say:So, since the pope directly protected pedophiles, I have to apologize? Hitler did that in my name? Yowza...

You're just not being open to some alembica.

[Balloon guy 158]

OK then I will post some real ones too:

Wiki pages clearly shows that Hitler used Christian words and speech to keep his real agenda from sounding less...evolutionist.

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Dawkins reply on youtube, pretty awesome.

[Balloon guy 158]

Dawkins reply on youtube, pretty awesome.

Two words that pretty much never belong together.That guy has got to be the worst example of illogical conclusions coupled with flat out lies spoken with self-righteous indignation since Hillary Clinton demanded that there was a vast right wing conspiracy saying that Bill cheated on her with Monica.Plus he's an idiot.

[Balloon guy 158]

12 to 18 on the front page.That's the number of threads started contest between you and Greatest I Am.You are losing, but at least you two are together on your ideas.

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I knew the pope always attracted big crowds but probably not what he expected...

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12 to 18 on the front page.That's the number of threads started contest between you and Greatest I Am.You are losing, but at least you two are together on your ideas.

Hey, just providing entertainment for you, but yowza, don't compare me to him or I'll cut you like a b!tch.

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Wiki pages clearly shows that Hitler used Christian words and speech to keep his real agenda from sounding less...evolutionist.

Yeah, but there is that Batismal certificate and the biblical quotes he used to justify getting Christians to kill Jews. Not that Christians weren't always behind a good genocide given the chance.

[Balloon guy 158]

Hey, just providing entertainment for you, but yowza, don't compare me to him or I'll cut you like a b!tch.

I knew that was the lowest blow I could hit you with.I apologize.Just being ornery I guess.

[vbnautilus 48]

Dawkins reply on youtube, pretty awesome.

It really is an awesome speech.

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I knew that was the lowest blow I could hit you with.I apologize.Just being ornery I guess.

haha

It really is an awesome speech.

Yes, yes it was.

[SuitedAces21 2,722]

It really is an awesome speech.

I'm with Dawkins for two obvious reasons:(1) He is right.(2) The British accent is profoundly intellectual.

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The Nazi's had an expansive list of banned books.-Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism.-All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk.In fact, Dawkin's book, The God Delusion would have been banned.

[Balloon guy 158]

The Nazi's had an expansive list of banned books.-Writings of a philosophical and social nature whose content deals with the false scientific enlightenment of primitive Darwinism.-All writings that ridicule, belittle or besmirch the Christian religion and its institution, faith in God, or other things that are holy to the healthy sentiments of the Volk.In fact, Dawkin's book, The God Delusion would have been banned.

That's because they also required at least 3 things to be true in the book.But we already know that Nazis and Communist didn't get along.Two interpretations of Darwinian evolution that clashed, and killed millions of people on their way.

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I'll see your quotes and raise you 30. Your move.The anti-Semitism of the new movement (Christian Social movement) was based on religious ideas instead of racial knowledge."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."[Adolph Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936]"I have followed [the Church] in giving our party program the character of unalterable finality, like the Creed. The Church has never allowed the Creed to be interfered with. It is fifteen hundred years since it was formulated, but every suggestion for its amendment, every logical criticism, or attack on it, has been rejected. The Church has realized that anything and everything can be built up on a document of that sort, no matter how contradictory or irreconcilable with it. The faithful will swallow it whole, so long as logical reasoning is never allowed to be brought to bear on it."[Adolf Hitler, from Rauschning, _The Voice of Destruction_, pp. 239-40]"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was his fight against the Jewish poison. Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exposed."[Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich on April 12, 1922, countering a political opponent, Count Lerchenfeld, who opposed antisemitism on his personal Christian feelings. Published in "My New Order", quoted in Freethought Today April 1990]"I believe today that my conduct is in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator."[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 46]"What we have to fight for...is the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may be enabled to fulfill the mission assigned to it by the Creator."[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp. 125]"This human world of ours would be inconceivable without the practical existence of a religious belief."[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.152]"And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God."[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.174]"Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another... while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve."[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, pp.309]"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so"[Adolph Hitler, to Gen. Gerhard Engel, 1941]"Any violence which does not spring from a spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain. It lacks the stability which can only rest in a fanatical outlook."[Adolph Hitler, _Mein Kampf_, p. 171]"I had excellent opportunity to intoxicate myself with the solemn splendor of the brilliant church festivals. As was only natural, the abbot seemed to me, as the village priest had once seemed to my father, the highest and most desirable ideal."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 1]"I was not in agreement with the sharp anti-Semitic tone, but from time to time I read arguments which gave me some food for thought. At all events, these occasions slowly made me acquainted with the man and the movement, which in those days guided Vienna's destinies: Dr. Karl Lueger and the Christian Social Party."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 2]"...the unprecedented rise of the Christian Social Party... was to assume the deepest significance for me as a classical object of study."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"Political parties has nothing to do with religious problems, as long as these are not alien to the nation, undermining the morals and ethics of the race; just as religion cannot be amalgamated with the scheming of political parties."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"For the political leader the religious doctrines and institutions of his people must always remain inviolable; or else has no right to be in politics, but should become a reformer, if he has what it takes![Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"In nearly all the matters in which the Pan-German movement was wanting, the attitude of the Christian Social Party was correct and well-planned."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"It [Christian Social Party] recognized the value of large-scale propaganda and was a virtuoso in influencing the psychological instincts of the broad masses of its adherents."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3]"If Dr. Karl Lueger had lived in Germany, he would have been ranked among the great minds of our people."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 3, about the leader of the Christian Social movement]"Even today I am not ashamed to say that, overpowered by stormy enthusiasm, I fell down on my knees and thanked Heaven from an overflowing heart for granting me the good fortune of being permitted to live at this time."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]"I had so often sung 'Deutschland u:ber Alles' and shouted 'Heil' at the top of my lungs, that it seemed to me almost a belated act of grace to be allowed to stand as a witness in the divine court of the eternal judge and proclaim the sincerity of this conviction."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]"Only in the steady and constant application of force lies the very first prerequisite for success. This persistence, however, can always and only arise from a definite spiritual conviction. Any violence which does not spring from a firm, spiritual base, will be wavering and uncertain."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 5]"I soon realized that the correct use of propaganda is a true art which has remained practically unknown to the bourgeois parties. Only the Christian- Social movement, especially in Lueger's time achieved a certain virtuosity on this instrument, to which it owed many of its success."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 6]"Once again the songs of the fatherland roared to the heavens along the endless marching columns, and for the last time the Lord's grace smiled on His ungrateful children."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 7, reflecting on World War I]"The more abstractly correct and hence powerful this idea will be, the more impossible remains its complete fulfillment as long as it continues to depend on human beings... If this were not so, the founders of religion could not be counted among the greatest men of this earth... In its workings, even the religion of love is only the weak reflection of the will of its exalted founder; its significance, however, lies in the direction which it attempted to give to a universal human development of culture, ethics, and morality."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]"To them belong, not only the truly great statesmen, but all other great reformers as well. Beside Frederick the Great stands Martin Luther as well as Richard Wagner."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 8]"The fight against syphilis demands a fight against prostitution, against prejudices, old habits, against previous conceptions, general views among them not least the false prudery of certain circles. The first prerequisite for even the moral right to combat these things is the facilitation of earlier marriage for the coming generation. In late marriage alone lies the compulsion to retain an institution which, twist and turn as you like, is and remains a disgrace to humanity, an institution which is damned ill-suited to a being who with his usual modesty likes to regard himself as the 'image' of God."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]"Parallel to the training of the body a struggle against the poisoning of the soul must begin. Our whole public life today is like a hothouse for sexual ideas and simulations. Just look at the bill of fare served up in our movies, vaudeville and theaters, and you will hardly be able to deny that this is not the right kind of food, particularly for the youth...Theater, art, literature, cinema, press, posters, and window displays must be cleansed of all manifestations of our rotting world and placed in the service of a moral, political, and cultural idea."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10, echoing the Cultural Warfare rhetoric of the Religious Right]"But if out of smugness, or even cowardice, this battle is not fought to its end, then take a look at the peoples five hundred years from now. I think you will find but few images of God, unless you want to profane the Almighty."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]"While both denominations maintain missions in Asia and Africa in order to win new followers for their doctrine-- an activity which can boast but very modest success compared to the advance of the Mohammedan faith in particular-- right here in Europe they lose millions and millions of inward adherents who either are alien to all religious life or simply go their own ways. The consequences, particularly from a moral point of view, are not favorable."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]"The great masses of people do not consist of philosophers; precisely for the masses, faith is often the sole foundation of a moral attitude. The various substitutes have not proved so successful from the standpoint of results that they could be regarded as a useful replacement for previous religious creeds. But if religious doctrine and faith are really to embrace the broad masses, the unconditional authority of the content of this faith is the foundation of all efficacy."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 10]"Due to his own original special nature, the Jew cannot possess a religious institution, if for no other reason because he lacks idealism in any form, and hence belief in a hereafter is absolutely foreign to him. And a religion in the Aryan sense cannot be imagined which lacks the conviction of survival after death in some form. Indeed, the Talmud is not a book to prepare a man for the hereafter, but only for a practical and profitable life in this world."[Adolf Hitler, "Mein Kampf", Vol. 1, Chapter 11]"The best characterization is provided by the product of this religious education, the Jew himself. His life is only of this world, and his spirit is inwardly as alien to true Christianity as his nature two thousand years previous was to the great founder of the new doctrine. Of course, the latter made no secret of his attitude toward the Jewish people, and when necessary he even took the whip to drive from the temple of the Lord this adversary of all humanity, who then as always saw in religion nothing but an instrument for his business existence. In return, Christ was nailed to the cross, while our present-day party Christians debase themselves to begging for Jewish votes at elections and later try to arrange political swindles with atheistic Jewish parties-- and this against their own nation."

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Hmmm.Hitler said the German people were farther advanced from an evolutionary stand point then others.Hitler used this 'science' to justify cleaning the gene pool of undesirables.Yea..it's not that big of a stretch to make that connection.

What do you think would happened after Hitler killed off millions of Jews and Gypsies? Do you think the next generation of Europeans contained fewer Jews and Gypsies than there would have been without Hitler's genocide?Assuming your answer is yes, then you and Hitler share a correct practical understanding of genocide's effect. You don't have to believe in evolution through natural selection to believe in artificial selection.

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What do you think would happened after Hitler killed off millions of Jews and Gypsies? Do you think the next generation of Europeans contained fewer Jews and Gypsies than there would have been without Hitler's genocide?Assuming your answer is yes, then you and Hitler share a correct practical understanding of genocide's effect. You don't have to believe in evolution through natural selection to believe in artificial selection.

But Hitler believed in a clear superiority through breeding and genes that justified his declaration that Aryans were the future of the world, and it was for the betterment of the world to remove Jewish blood from the gene pool.Dramatically different from someone who believes that killing all the Italians will result in fewer Italians in the world.

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Yeah, but there is that Batismal certificate and the biblical quotes he used to justify getting Christians to kill Jews. Not that Christians weren't always behind a good genocide given the chance.

A sphincter says what?