shynepo3 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 well, i finally had my 1st winning session in 2 months at live poker...granted, i haven't been playing much, but after 10 losers in a row, it felt good...i misplayed quite a few hands...but wanted to knw what y'all thought...my reads are minimal, usuallly loose and crazy, weak tight, or tight/agg....when this hand comes up, i just bluffed the woman in the pot 3 hands ago with a/4 suited on a 3 5 8 10 k no flush draw when i fired all 3 streets....k on the river gave me the ability to get her to fold....i think she flashed 8/9...anyways, i'm in bb with kk....utg foldsutg + 1 foldsmp calls $5 (has whole table covered, extremely loose agg, but is soo predictable, checks his made hands on the flop, and throws out ridiciulous overbets for bulffs...)mp + 1 foldsmp + 2 calls $5 (lady whom i was speaking about...dont know her really yet, but i saw her open limp with a/5 off and won when she flopped an a...seems weak tight..her stack is about 150)hijack foldsbutton calls $5sb calls $3hero raises to $45 (my stack is about $520)mp calls $40mp+ 2 calls $45flop - $145k 10 10 with two spadeshero bets out $60mp raises to $200mp + 2 CALLS all-in $105 ishhero??Now, i have about $400 left...and I'm thinking there is a good chance that mp is on a bluff...if i call, the side pot will be about $170....if mp is on a bluff or flush draw, i can let him catch up or let him try to take it away on the turn or river...if i just shove on top, i take away his bluff (with a decent side pot, and money behind, i think he has to go for the side pot if he's on a bluff right??)... i think the mp +2 made this hand messed up for me...if she had a bigger stack and just called, or shoved, it would have been much easier....but if mp is on a flush draw/straight draw, then i doubt he's folding to my shove...If mp + 2 wasn't aggro, i probably wuld just shove and hope to get called my a case K or some j/10 hand...or even k/10 hand....but knowing that he would just call my bet on the flop with a 10 or a boat, i think he's either on pure air, a flush draw or a king....i have no clue what mp+2 has, and i wans't even thinking about it....lol...thoughts????more mis played hands to come... Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 You have kings full right? Just call. What are you afraid of? Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I think I'm inclined to shove. If villain has a flush draw, now is when he'll call.....not on the turn or river if he misses. If he has a ten, he'll still call. The only risk shoving does is it may fold out hands like 99/QJ/KQ but that doesn't make sense anyways for villain to have. If you just call on the flop, I'm pretty sure villain will shut down if he's on a bluff, esp with one person all in. Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Nevermind after re-reading description of way villain plays. Obv just call Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 whats MP stack size. i mean i would just shove and hope he/she think that the odds are there to chase a flush draw Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 whats MP stack size. i mean i would just shove and hope he/she think that the odds are there to chase a flush drawmp has table covered...not afraid of anything, just want to maximize the best i can with likely near nuts.. Link to post Share on other sites
Biff Goods 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 I think calling>shoving here. There is a pretty good chance Villain is betting turn at which then you could shove giving him an easy call. Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 do you shove turn if a blank rolls off? or check to mp??? anyone?? Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 He's firing. We have a PSB left. There's no reason to "protect this hand." Disgustedly call the flop and let him send the turn in. Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Call flopCheck/Call turn Shovel River (assuming he checks behind turn)If he's on air/draw, he's shoving the turn like EVERYTIME. Maybe he did this with something retarded like 9's, and he MIGHT realize he's behind & check behind the turn. In this case we merrily donk-shove the river to get paid.Ok so be honest now... this was a brag post, eH? Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Author Share Posted July 22, 2010 lol...no it wasn't...i called flop, instead of shoving...i checked turn, he ckeced behind (after turn bricked)river bricked, and i bet like $75 (stupid bet)..and he folded showing a flush draw...both of them had a flush draw...i felt like i missed out $200 extra from shoving the flop...but i guess in the long run, checking is better since we expect villian to show up with air most of the time... Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Tank callsmall river vbet /inducer is fine bc the side pot alone doesn't really make another player bluff at it Link to post Share on other sites
rrumsey 0 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 uhm guys im lazy and dont wanna do the math, but a call makes the pot like close to 600, and we will have like less then 300 behind. how on gods green earth can villain not realizing calling here means we are ready to get it in here. i mean if he is going to pay off, he is going to pay off. not much can even improve him Link to post Share on other sites
Ryan92584 0 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Just stick it in on the flop. He's going to call with all his draws/10's and fold his air (which you wouldn't get any more action after you call anyway). You know he probably doesn't have a K since 3 are gone and likely wouldn't raise flop if did anyway so he most likely has draw/10/or air Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Just stick it in on the flop. He's going to call with all his draws/10's and fold his air (which you wouldn't get any more action after you call anyway). You know he probably doesn't have a K since 3 are gone and likely wouldn't raise flop if did anyway so he most likely has draw/10/or airMy initial post was to shove, but looking at villain, this is just a call. If he has a draw, let him hit it or fire again on the turn. If he has a 10, you'll get his money no matter what you do by the river. If he has total air, you need to let him hang himself. No point in shoving here given villain's agressiveness. Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted July 27, 2010 Author Share Posted July 27, 2010 i think he fires again with his air, especially when i just call...he'll sense weakness and decide that he wants to try and take it away...but it's close...he was very very aggressive...and didnt seem that good either...any K, 10, or made hand gets his money as well when we callso only draws are the one that doesnt benefit from calling.....i think it's close, cause maybe 1/2 the time he doesnt fire with his air...i chose to call..cause i figured he would fire again on the turn even if he had a draw, but he didnt...oh well... Link to post Share on other sites
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