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finally got around to watching this yesterday. It was fantastic.I think a lot of things about the 'reality' in this movie are very dream-like. How he gets from place to place is never really explained in the movie. Also, his relationships with the team members and how he recruits them so easily seems kind of transparant. Also the fact that the scene at the end which is supposedly in reality is literally an exact replica, from the exact same viewpoint, as the recurring 'dream' image that he sees throughout the film of his two children crouching in the yard. Plus that scene where it looks like the walls are closing in on him in the alleyway is very dream-like. I remember thinking as that scene was happening that this must be a dream.

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finally got around to watching this yesterday. It was fantastic.I think a lot of things about the 'reality' in this movie are very dream-like. How he gets from place to place is never really explained in the movie. Also, his relationships with the team members and how he recruits them so easily seems kind of transparant. Also the fact that the scene at the end which is supposedly in reality is literally an exact replica, from the exact same viewpoint, as the recurring 'dream' image that he sees throughout the film of his two children crouching in the yard. Plus that scene where it looks like the walls are closing in on him in the alleyway is very dream-like. I remember thinking as that scene was happening that this must be a dream.
Ya its all a dream, likely someone putting an idea into Cobbs head trying to get him to wake up?theres so many possible scenarios but I def feel like the reality is his first dream level
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Was talking about this today and my friend said he read somewhere that the kids clothing were different at the end which would lead to the conclusion that it is not a dream level. Although, in a dream things can change from how we first perceived them. Also, they made it sound like the top hit a wobble at the very end but again we don't really care anymore if the top spins out or not.

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saw it again (still loved it) and a few thingssometimes I got the feeling all the Michael Caine scenes were him trying to get Leo to come back to realityI think JGL and the forger are Exs or just secretly hot for one anotherI didn't understand the following sequenceLeo: Scarecrow is dead. we're ****edEllen: no we can go down and get him and come back.forger: yea we can just revive him with the thingyEllen: yea I'll just make my own kick down therewait. you can make your own kick? and you can just kill yourself in limbo and come back? so it's not really that bad? you can just make your own kick? that's not how I understand kicks. sorry. I just like saying kick.oh yea. I just happen to be your biggest competitor and we're on the same flight back from Sydney and you don't even say an uncomfortable hello or nod (give a nod not say nod). I guess you really aren't cut out to fill your father's footsteps.

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The kick vs killing yourself in limbo situation is the only real question I have.
My real question is why he can't just have his kids move from the states to overseas ... it's not like they have to stay with his wife (assuming she really died).He was only wanted in the US correct? He could live in other countries ... like Roman Polanski.
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My real question is why he can't just have his kids move from the states to overseas ... it's not like they have to stay with his wife (assuming she really died).He was only wanted in the US correct? He could live in other countries ... like Roman Polanski.
If we are to take what happens at face value...his mother-in-law blames him for the mother's death and she doesn't even want them talking to him, so I don't think she would cooperate with moving them overseas. And do you really want to raise your kids as a wanted criminal or would you rather clear your name and go back home?
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If we are to take what happens at face value...his mother-in-law blames him for the mother's death and she doesn't even want them talking to him, so I don't think she would cooperate with moving them overseas. And do you really want to raise your kids as a wanted criminal or would you rather clear your name and go back home?
Well since he just wanted to see them ... then wouldn't it be easy to get them on a plane to go and see their dad. Also as a father I wouldn't care less what my mother in law thought, they're my kids. As far as raising the kids, I am only a criminal in the US so if I am overseas there is no reason to clear my name. I will just tell the kids that it is all a crazy misunderstanding and they will buy it ... cause they are kids and have no reason to distrust me. Then when they are older I tell them the whole story and they can figure out for themselves what they think.
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Who do you think their legal guardian is?
Ah interesting. I would think it would be the dad, but if I take your question as a statement that the mother in law is the guardian then that would change a lot of things.
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Ah interesting. I would think it would be the dad, but if I take your question as a statement that the mother in law is the guardian then that would change a lot of things.
I'm no expert, but if you are wanted for murder and on the run in foreign countries, you will lose legal custody of your children. But I'm no expert.
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I'm no expert, but if you are wanted for murder and on the run in foreign countries, you will lose legal custody of your children. But I'm no expert.
Are you an expert?
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If we are to take what happens at face value...his mother-in-law blames him for the mother's death and she doesn't even want them talking to him, so I don't think she would cooperate with moving them overseas. And do you really want to raise your kids as a wanted criminal or would you rather clear your name and go back home?
But the big reveal in the movie was that Leo planted the idea in his wife's head. So unless he revealed this to his parents, in which case why the dramatic music when he reveals it to the crew?Why would his dad teach architecture in Paris while his mom lives in the states? At the end he was there in the states, so he must still be with his wife.Why can't the architect change things in the world he/she made like that one guy can change his appearance?Bad guys are shooting at you? Oh well now there are 50 good guys with guns.The whole point of the bad guys shooting at them was that their mark had some training and was using a defensive technique to protect himself. If he could bring in 'people with guns' in another person's dream, why couldn't they all?In Limbo Leo and his wife were alone for decades, yet the Japanese guy was in limbo with people / guards. If limbo allows you to build a whole world, one where you can live a whole life and then kill yourself to come back after aging only a couple hours, why not go to limbo and learn all languages, martial arts, etc? I enjoyed the movie, but thought it was trying too hard to be Matrix. Expecting people to leave the theater questioning the possibility that reality isn't what we've always thought it was.And can we PLEASE quit having extremely young girls be the best at something in all these movies. I mean architecture? Really? She looked 19.
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But the big reveal in the movie was that Leo planted the idea in his wife's head. So unless he revealed this to his parents, in which case why the dramatic music when he reveals it to the crew?
I don't think a mother needs to have concrete evidence to blame someone for the death of her child.
Why would his dad teach architecture in Paris while his mom lives in the states? At the end he was there in the states, so he must still be with his wife.
His dad, his wife's mom.
Why can't the architect change things in the world he/she made like that one guy can change his appearance?
The architect can change things. What's the question here? The thing about changing things is that if the dreamer starts to notice these changes, he will realize he's dreaming and that's when random people start attacking you.
Bad guys are shooting at you? Oh well now there are 50 good guys with guns.The whole point of the bad guys shooting at them was that their mark had some training and was using a defensive technique to protect himself. If he could bring in 'people with guns' in another person's dream, why couldn't they all?
Because he had training while not everyone did?
In Limbo Leo and his wife were alone for decades, yet the Japanese guy was in limbo with people / guards. If limbo allows you to build a whole world, one where you can live a whole life and then kill yourself to come back after aging only a couple hours, why not go to limbo and learn all languages, martial arts, etc?
I don't know. Was there something about the longer you stay, the harder it is to come back?
I enjoyed the movie, but thought it was trying too hard to be Matrix. Expecting people to leave the theater questioning the possibility that reality isn't what we've always thought it was.
I don't have a problem with it, but I like to talk about movies after the fact instead of just saying, "Ooh, remember when that one thing blew up? That was cool."
And can we PLEASE quit having extremely young girls be the best at something in all these movies. I mean architecture? Really? She looked 19.
I think she's super cute.Have you seen Hard Candy?
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Reasonable rebuttals.What about when the mark gets back to his dad's office, dins that there is nothing in the safe, and because of his training asks his original trainer if it's possible that someone incepted him?The guy shows him a picture of the biggest names in the business and there's Leo. Bam, inception failed.And the whole movie was predicated on the notion that a guy who controls an empire vastly larger than the Japanese guy's flew commercial, after the Japanese guy buys the entire airline to make sure he books that flight? Why would the guy not own his own planes..as in a bunch of them?I know they mentioned this in the movie but I don't remember how they addressed it. Or maybe I only dreamed that they mentioned it?

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None of that has to do with the movie Hard Candy.
Was that movie anything like Walk Hard?Cause there were some funny things in that movie
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