Facing A C/r Multiway 50nl

[rrumsey 0]

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 795594The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBB: $38.10UTG: $69.30MP: $63.85CO: $50.50Hero (BTN): $54.45SB: $50.00Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K J UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1Flop: ($4.75) 2 9 K (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3, BB folds, UTG raises to $8.50, Hero calls $5.50Turn: ($21.75) 7 (2 players)UTG bets $15, Hero foldsVillain hasnt taken this line yet, very little history. I mean nothing out the ordinary has happened

[droberts 3]

Full Tilt Poker $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 795594The Official DeucesCracked.com Hand History ConverterBB: $38.10UTG: $69.30MP: $63.85CO: $50.50Hero (BTN): $54.45SB: $50.00Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K J UTG raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold, BB calls $1Flop: ($4.75) 2 9 K (3 players)BB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets $3, BB folds, UTG raises to $8.50, Hero calls $5.50Turn: ($21.75) 7 (2 players)UTG bets $15, Hero foldsVillain hasnt taken this line yet, very little history. I mean nothing out the ordinary has happened

im folding this everytime to UTG open.also when he c/r on that flop, then leads strong on that turn.. ur usually crushed.

[droberts 3]

also have u moved up stakes already, or are u just taking a shot?

[KingJames 11]

im folding this everytime to UTG open.also when he c/r on that flop, then leads strong on that turn.. ur usually crushed.

you are crushed here... utg open + flop c/r multiway (yes bb folded but still) = KJ no gooooood

[donk4life 34]

you are crushed here... utg open + flop c/r multiway (yes bb folded but still) = KJ no gooooood

Don't sell yourself short, you're very good!

[KingJames 11]

Don't sell yourself short, you're very good!

I like you more than phil (the aussie one)

[custom36 5]

im folding this everytime to UTG open.

Yup.

[XXEddie 0]

Yup.

This was my first thought, but then I saw it was 6-max. Does that still make this a clear fold?edit - as played I instafold turn

[babylondonks 5]

I like you more than phil (the aussie one)

Who doesn't?

This was my first thought, but then I saw it was 6-max. Does that still make this a clear fold?edit - as played I instafold turn

It can be a call depending upon the villain and your own ability. But given most people generally overestimate their own ability to "play position" I'd much prefer folding pre. I think 3betting has merit too.

[custom36 5]

This was my first thought, but then I saw it was 6-max. Does that still make this a clear fold?edit - as played I instafold turn

Except on rare occasions, I'll fold this every time - even in 6-max. KJo is a hand you shouldn't be calling a PF raise from UTG with in either full ring or 6-max.

[XXEddie 0]

Who doesn't?It can be a call depending upon the villain and your own ability. But given most people generally overestimate their own ability to "play position" I'd much prefer folding pre. I think 3betting has merit too.

Ha, true story.

[Ninja Ace 1]

Calling utg with KJo is indeed terrible...Raising on the other hand...

[rrumsey 0]

im folding this everytime to UTG open.also when he c/r on that flop, then leads strong on that turn.. ur usually crushed.

your pretty nitty if you are not at least calling IP here against just an open. I mean that is just my honest opinion

[SuperJon 175]

your pretty nitty if you are not at least calling IP here against just an open. I mean that is just my honest opinion

No, he's smart.Aside from flopping the nuts, you're never going to feel comfortable playing KJ to an UTG raise, even though you have posistion.And when you flop a one pair type hand and decide to get it all in, you're almost never being called by a hand that doesn't have you crushed.

[Ninja Ace 1]

your pretty nitty if you are not at least calling IP here against just an open. I mean that is just my honest opinion

It has nothing to do with nitty... KJo plays like shit in this spot when you flat an EP open.Raising sometimes > folding >>>>>>>>>>>>>calling

[donk4life 34]

your pretty nitty if you are not at least calling IP here against just an open. I mean that is just my honest opinion

you're pretty spewwy if you really think calling an UTG's raise w/ KJ is profitable just because you have position. I mean that is just my honest opinion.

[rrumsey 0]

yah i played the hand terribly, i should have just 3 bet foled

[donk4life 34]

yah i played the hand terribly, i should have just 3 bet foled

Or, fold preflop!

[Ninja Ace 1]

Or, fold preflop!

Totally villain dependent... either could be optimal