More Value Or Shove Turn?

[Brutha K 0]

Villain is your typical calling station...A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($2.00+$0.20) t60/t120 ante t15 - 6 playersCO: t2,815 Button: t6,035 SB: t15,426 BB: t230 UTG: t3,970 UTG+1: t3,670 (Hero)Preflop: (t270) Hero is UTG+1 with (6 players)UTG folds, Hero raises to t360, CO calls t360, 3 foldsFlop: (t990) (2 players)Hero bets t360, CO calls t360Turn: (t1,710) (2 players)Hero checks, CO bets t600, Hero ???????

[AimHigher 0]

Calling stations like to call, they don't like to bet or raise, so you need to do the betting for them.bet 650 on the flop and that'll leave him like 1800 on the turn, the pot will be 2300ish and you can just put him in. As played I just check/jam because if he's calling a raise he's calling a jam.

[TrueAce13 18]

yeh...that seems right!

[Brutha K 0]

sweet thats exactly what i did, unfortunately he folded

[Biff Goods 0]

If you bet more on the flop it would have been harder for him to fold the turn shove.

[XXEddie 0]

check to a 'calling station' is like lighting money on fire.

[Brutha K 0]

If you bet more on the flop it would have been harder for him to fold the turn shove.

ya i looked that after and slapped my self

[rrumsey 0]

such a safe turn, bet and get value. i would bet decently small to spazz induce or just shove him on the turn. not too many wrong moves here besides checking and risking the chance he doesnt bet. as played easiest shove in the world. he may have a set or a really good kinda draw. or 2 pair. i mean this line makes no sense unless your plan is to shove. but we dont wanna give free cards. have a clear plan for the hand preflop, on the flop, and the turn, and the river if you get there. your plan when you flop the current nuts is to win his stack. nbet and at some point get it in. plan plan plan.

[cashman 0]

such a safe turn, bet and get value. i would bet decently small to spazz induce or just shove him on the turn. not too many wrong moves here besides checking and risking the chance he doesnt bet. as played easiest shove in the world. he may have a set or a really good kinda draw. or 2 pair. i mean this line makes no sense unless your plan is to shove. but we dont wanna give free cards. have a clear plan for the hand preflop, on the flop, and the turn, and the river if you get there. your plan when you flop the current nuts is to win his stack. nbet and at some point get it in. plan plan plan.

Why would you ever check the turn after betting the flop. If you're trapping you have to do that on the flop. You definitely cannot check the turn at these levels because if he bets, like he did, a check/raise makes it obvious that you have a big hand. However, once you did check, I think I might just call because he may put you on four to the flush. To me a check call would very much look like a draw. Sometimes I get greedy it backfires, but how often are you going to flop that hand. Once you do you want to get paid off big time. It's heads up so you're opponent most likely doesn't have a flush draw. If a card other than a club comes on the river he may put you on a missed draw and make a big bluff. Checking the turn is a big mistake IMO, but check raising it only compounded the mistake. Can I get anyones thoughts on my reasoning for check calling the turn as opposed to check raising?

[rrumsey 0]

Villain is your typical calling station...[\

Why would you ever check the turn after betting the flop. If you're trapping you have to do that on the flop. You definitely cannot check the turn at these levels because if he bets, like he did, a check/raise makes it obvious that you have a big hand. However, once you did check, I think I might just call because he may put you on four to the flush. To me a check call would very much look like a draw. Sometimes I get greedy it backfires, but how often are you going to flop that hand. Once you do you want to get paid off big time. It's heads up so you're opponent most likely doesn't have a flush draw. If a card other than a club comes on the river he may put you on a missed draw and make a big bluff. Checking the turn is a big mistake IMO, but check raising it only compounded the mistake. Can I get anyones thoughts on my reasoning for check calling the turn as opposed to check raising?

villain is a station. dont worry about what it "looks like" and leveling, vbet all day and get his stack. i mean i am relying on his read being correct of course. but just bet the shhhiitteee out of this when villain is a station. we only need to discuss how we wish to bet here, not if we are or not.