shynepo3 0 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Ok, the two villains in the hand, villain 1 is a bad player...plain and simple. He's kind of like a friend of mine, but he seems to think i'm bluffing all the time and calls me thin...extremely thin. Villain 2 is a good player, but he tends to bluff/semibluff a lot...in this session, his stack has went from about 1500 down 600 since i got there...he makes ambitious plays too much.Hero is in BB with 2 7 diamonds.6 limpers, sb completes, hero checks.flop ($40)2 club 3heart 7 clubsb checkshero bets $30 (stack is $350)fold foldvillain 1 calls $30 (stack is $250)foldvillain 2 calls $30 (stack covers)sb foldsturn ($130)9 hearthero bets $80villain 1 calls $80villain 2 goes all-inhero? Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 With your read on villain 2, I think you need to stack off here. Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted May 12, 2010 Author Share Posted May 12, 2010 With your read on villain 2, I think you need to stack off here.Ok...well i 'm good you think that...against most players, i would fold, knowing i'm not good in this spot...because of the two villains tendencies, especially with villain 2 in general, and villian 1's propensity to assume i bluff a lot (it's quite ridiculous with what he calls me with..., and i've proven him wrong so many times, yet he continues to do so), i really felt that i'm leading here over 50% of the time. With the $$ in the pot, and my remaining stack, i felt i had to call here. Link to post Share on other sites
mtdesmoines 3 Posted May 12, 2010 Share Posted May 12, 2010 Ok, the two villains in the hand, villain 1 is a bad player...plain and simple. He's kind of like a friend of mine, but he seems to think i'm bluffing all the time and calls me thin...extremely thin. Villain 2 is a good player, but he tends to bluff/semibluff a lot...in this session, his stack has went from about 1500 down 600 since i got there...he makes ambitious plays too much.Hero is in BB with 2 7 diamonds.6 limpers, sb completes, hero checks.flop ($40)2 club 3heart 7 clubsb checkshero bets $30 (stack is $350)fold foldvillain 1 calls $30 (stack is $250)foldvillain 2 calls $30 (stack covers)sb foldsturn ($130)9 hearthero bets $80villain 1 calls $80villain 2 goes all-inhero?Fold. With 6 players seeing a flop, your middle two pair is no good, especially with our low investment in this hand to the turn. Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted May 13, 2010 Author Share Posted May 13, 2010 no other insights here? i really want to gain more from this hand...lol.. Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted May 13, 2010 Share Posted May 13, 2010 Looks likes a value shove tbh. A LAGish player in spew-mode would most likely raise the flop on a semi-bluff/bluff, given his position. It actually shows a lot of strength to shove over a double-barrel from the SB and a call in a multi-way pot.... Link to post Share on other sites
TraptSteve 0 Posted May 18, 2010 Share Posted May 18, 2010 results?.? Link to post Share on other sites
poker student 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Share Posted May 19, 2010 Ok, the two villains in the hand, villain 1 is a bad player...plain and simple. He's kind of like a friend of mine, but he seems to think i'm bluffing all the time and calls me thin...extremely thin. Villain 2 is a good player, but he tends to bluff/semibluff a lot...in this session, his stack has went from about 1500 down 600 since i got there...he makes ambitious plays too much.Hero is in BB with 2 7 diamonds.6 limpers, sb completes, hero checks.flop ($40)2 club 3heart 7 clubsb checkshero bets $30 (stack is $350)fold foldvillain 1 calls $30 (stack is $250)foldvillain 2 calls $30 (stack covers)sb foldsturn ($130)9 hearthero bets $80villain 1 calls $80villain 2 goes all-inhero?Stats would be helpful or was this live?OK so your friend were not worry about it sounds like. That Just leaves the other player. Looks like a draw.Worst case lets see where you would be.Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 2,684 games 0.001 secs 2,684,000 games/secBoard: 2c 7c 3h 9hDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 66.747% 66.69% 00.06% 1790 1.50 { 7d2d }Hand 1: 33.253% 33.20% 00.06% 891 1.50 { 99, 77, 33-22, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ah7h, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ah3h, Ac2c, Ah2h, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc7c, Kh7h, Kc6c, Kc5c, Kc4c, Kc3c, Kh3h, Kc2c, Kh2h, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, Th7h, 9c8c, 9c7c, 9h7h, 9c6c, 8c7c, 8h7h, 8c6c, 7c6c, 54s, 32s, 54o, 32o }He is less likely to slow play a big hand because of the board and you block the 2 and the 7 as far as sets go. I don't think he's doing this with a 7 unless its a 7 and a draw. So most likly hands would be:a set of 3'sa set of 9's2 pairA drawHe less likly to slow play 3's because it was a 6 way pot.Your only dead to a set and there are way more combos of draws so I say call but thats just me maybe I'm way off. Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 My "friend" played this hand like an idiot, and I suffered for it..lol...i called, because I felt the other villian was on a draw, and that my "friend" was only calling me because it was me...he ends up over calling...Villian has 10/8 clubs, and my friend has a set of 3's Link to post Share on other sites
shynepo3 0 Posted May 19, 2010 Author Share Posted May 19, 2010 Stats would be helpful or was this live?OK so your friend were not worry about it sounds like. That Just leaves the other player. Looks like a draw.Worst case lets see where you would be.Text results appended to pokerstove.txt 2,684 games 0.001 secs 2,684,000 games/secBoard: 2c 7c 3h 9hDead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 66.747% 66.69% 00.06% 1790 1.50 { 7d2d }Hand 1: 33.253% 33.20% 00.06% 891 1.50 { 99, 77, 33-22, Ac9c, Ac8c, Ac7c, Ah7h, Ac6c, Ac5c, Ac4c, Ac3c, Ah3h, Ac2c, Ah2h, KcJc, KcTc, Kc9c, Kc8c, Kc7c, Kh7h, Kc6c, Kc5c, Kc4c, Kc3c, Kh3h, Kc2c, Kh2h, QcJc, QcTc, Qc9c, JcTc, Jc9c, Jc8c, Tc9c, Tc8c, Tc7c, Th7h, 9c8c, 9c7c, 9h7h, 9c6c, 8c7c, 8h7h, 8c6c, 7c6c, 54s, 32s, 54o, 32o }He is less likely to slow play a big hand because of the board and you block the 2 and the 7 as far as sets go. I don't think he's doing this with a 7 unless its a 7 and a draw. So most likly hands would be:a set of 3'sa set of 9's2 pairA drawHe less likly to slow play 3's because it was a 6 way pot.Your only dead to a set and there are way more combos of draws so I say call but thats just me maybe I'm way off.this was live Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted May 20, 2010 Share Posted May 20, 2010 no other insights here? i really want to gain more from this hand...lol..Can't give you any because I have a history of overplaying flopped 2 pairs... Link to post Share on other sites
Footballguru 0 Posted June 3, 2010 Share Posted June 3, 2010 Can't give you any because I have a history of overplaying flopped 2 pairs...haha yea me too. I doubled up some donk when i hit 2 pair j4ss from SB on KJ4 flop and he had K4. Link to post Share on other sites
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