tbrick412 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 i'd wager all my chips Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 i'd wager all my chipspringles or ruffles Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 i'd wager all my chipsyou're willing to flip that early, and are not afraid of one of those players having AA or KK? Link to post Share on other sites
outsider13 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 you're willing to flip that early, and are not afraid of one of those players having AA or KK?I don't think i've folded AK ever pre in a 4.40 Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I don't think i've folded AK ever pre in a 4.40ya i know that was what i was thinking lol.I guess i didn't want to risk it at 15/30 with a 3-bet all in and a caller.Maybe I probably should have pushed instead of called when it was raised to 210 Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 do not fold.yes sir. Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 yes sir.unless you got a PM or AIM or something, it'd be kind of important to know why instead of blindly accepting this as correct. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Just shove or fold on your first option. Preferably shove. I would fold this spot in a 3k starting stack tournament but not a 1500 chips starting stack 180 man turbo or non turbo.As played .....toss a coin. I don't think it's a clear cut call even in a 4.40. You're in pretty bad shape if I read it right.edit - given the first flatter and original raiser got it in and not the 3 bettor...don't fold. If the original 3 better got it in there I'd hate my hand. You're probably against 88-QQ\AQ+ of the flatter and TT+ / AK/AQs of the original raiser. Given this is a 4.40 very early give a non zero chance of J4o showing up too. Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 unless you got a PM or AIM or something, it'd be kind of important to know why instead of blindly accepting this as correct.no I definitely am not taking it blindly. I just give short responses to short answers lol. It is just nice to hear strategy from tourney regs. Although I don't play for a living, I've been playing regularly live and online for a long time so I'm not completely clueless.thanks for the responses Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 edit - given the first flatter and original raiser got it in and not the 3 bettor...don't fold. If the original 3 better got it in there I'd hate my hand. You're probably against 88-QQ\AQ+ of the flatter and TT+ / AK/AQs of the original raiser. Given this is a 4.40 very early give a non zero chance of J4o showing up too. no I definitely am not taking it blindly. I just give short responses to short answers lol. It is just nice to hear strategy from tourney regs. Although I don't play for a living, I've been playing regularly live and online for a long time so I'm not completely clueless.thanks for the responsescool thenHWY was the only one to give any meaningful strat. he's a good chap. tehtoe kept his reasoning to himself which is cool. I tried to poke him into giving a more in depth hand analysis. Link to post Share on other sites
tbrick412 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 chances of being against AA/KK are (obviously) not real likely, though there is a small chance of it. there is enough in the pot that it makes it worth getting it in here, and its AK and its a 4.40. folding isnt really terrible, but I dislike the flat, we miss the flop too often for it imo.that said, i really dont know what i'm talking about, but thats just my $0.02 Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I'm getting it in as opposed to flatting the first time around, but the fact of the matter is this IS a 4.40 and you're never gonna find ranges are tight enough to justify a fold here, especially w/ the random spazzy trash that gets it in here simply because it's a 4.40.Agree with folding in a reg MTT, but not a 4.40. Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I don't think i've folded AK everFYPcool thenHWY was the only one to give any meaningful strat. he's a good chap. tehtoe kept his reasoning to himself which is cool. I tried to poke him into giving a more in depth hand analysis.Yeah seriously, **** tehtoe he's a little prick Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 inb4 TA13 suggests raise/folding Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted May 9, 2010 Author Share Posted May 9, 2010 I say fold, because it's better for me if you don't do so well in the challenge. Link to post Share on other sites
Ko8e34 0 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 inb4 pucksniper suggests open foldingfyp Link to post Share on other sites
lurbz 2 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 inb4 pucksniper suggests open folding and then moving tables fypfyfmp Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 sitting like 12/34, no stats on villainMoooooooooooraaawwwr.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($4.00+$0.40) t125/t250 ante t25 - 9 playersUTG: t6,109 UTG+1: t3,435 MP: t14,595 MP2: t4,143 HJ: t11,207 CO: t3,465 Button: t9,588 (Hero)SB: t18,088 BB: t15,625 Preflop: (t600) Hero is Button with (9 players)2 folds, MP calls t250, 3 folds, Hero raises to t717, SB raises to t2250, 2 foldsQQ I just get it in with, wasn't sure with JJ... Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 I'd not fold Tens there Link to post Share on other sites
wildspoke 2 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Final Table 271122709sitting 2 of 6Gunga la-gunga! Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 Final Table 271122709sitting 2 of 6Gunga la-gunga!gl!!! Link to post Share on other sites
GWCGWC 83 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 try not to run your aces into a flush draw! Link to post Share on other sites
king_tanner 84 Posted May 9, 2010 Share Posted May 9, 2010 try not to run your aces into a flush draw!yeah really. People get a flush draw and orgasm all over their keyboard Link to post Share on other sites
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