NickCave 194 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 lool that last one reminds me of an old Blue Jays VHS I had. It showed some swings from a game where the Jays were up 9-0 or something in the bottom of the 5th, and it was full-out blizzarding, with two inches of snow on the field, and the Jays were trying to make their outs as fast as possible to get the game official. Not surprisingly, the pitcher's location was not precise...since there was goddamn snow on the ball, and the Jays were just wildly swinging. That, combined with 1985 colour commentary, was priceless. You're either making this up or remembering some important details wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Going into to the game tonight, I think Lestser is great, the man can deal gas. But in World Series games, you need more than that, you don't just need a thrower, you need a guy who can pitch-throw, and that's wainwright. Guy's a horse. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 You're either making this up or remembering some important details wrong. Both the score and year are almost certainly wrong. They were approximations, which I should have stated, but I couldn't have imagined someone would want to b-ref the game... Link to post Share on other sites
Essay21 2,385 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Going into to the game tonight, I think Lestser is great, the man can deal gas. But in World Series games, you need more than that, you don't just need a thrower, you need a guy who can pitch-throw, and that's wainwright. Guy's a horse. Cardinals are a team full of werewolves and you need that in a late October series. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
BigDMcGee 3,352 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 yeah, they seem like normal men, but the shine of the big game comes on and they transform into beasts, ready to rip your throat at. Link to post Share on other sites
NickCave 194 Posted October 23, 2013 Share Posted October 23, 2013 Both the score and year are almost certainly wrong. They were approximations, which I should have stated, but I couldn't have imagined someone would want to b-ref the game... Sure, but more importantly, the inning is wrong. 4.5 innings is an official game if the home team is ahead. Link to post Share on other sites
mrdannyg 274 Posted October 24, 2013 Share Posted October 24, 2013 Sure, but more importantly, the inning is wrong. 4.5 innings is an official game if the home team is ahead. Fair enough, so maybe it was the bottom of the 4th or top of the 5th. Or I made the whole thing up. I just wanted attention! Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 thats how you win a game. OBSTRUCTION! Link to post Share on other sites
NickCave 194 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Good call. Big ups to Joyce making that call in a spot that huge. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 rule seems pretty clear. Link to post Share on other sites
NickCave 194 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Yeah, but still, it's the deciding run in a world series game. Nobody would say boo if he just ignored it Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 i would have. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 Pretty obvious interference call. Nothing Middlebrooks could do to get out of the way either. Awful decision by Salty to throw that ball. Also some strange moves from Farrell, like letting Workman bat, not getting Napoli an at bat, and not walking Jay in the 9th. Not getting Napoli in there is probably the most questionable (instead we got Gomes and goddam Carp). Link to post Share on other sites
NickCave 194 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 I was watching Workman up there and just laughing my ass off. What the hell was Farrell thinking? And the call is obstruction. Everybody gets that wrong, for some reason, even the TV and radio guys for the first half hour after the game. Interference is when the baserunner interferes with the fielding team, whereas obstruction is the opposite. Link to post Share on other sites
SuitedAces21 2,722 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 even keith law made an ass of himself last night tweeting about it. it was an odd play, but it was obviously obstruction. rules are rules. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 27, 2013 Share Posted October 27, 2013 The bottom line is, when Salty threw that ball into leftfield the game was obviously over. If the runner hadn't tripped over Middlebrooks there wouldn't have even been a play at the plate. Such a shame because it wasted an outstanding play by Pedroia to get the out at home. It's also a goddam shame that Farrell used Doubront for 2 innings last night cuz we've got Glassarm Buchholz going tonight, but I'm not that mad at him for that - gotta try to win every game and Doubront gave us an opportunity last night. I am kind of mad at him for continuing to start Stephen Drew. I don't really understand using Drew for the first 6 or 7 innings and then going to Middlebrooks as a pinch hitter. Normal strategy would suggest he goes with the better bat at the start of the game and then puts a defensive replacement in if he's got a lead to protect. Drew is again starting tonight, but at least the Johnny Gomes experiment is over. And Salty is taking a seat too. EDIT: Oh, Gomes is in there cuz Victorino is hurt. As long as Nava is in there too, I'm fine. Link to post Share on other sites
brvheart 1,752 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 but at least the Johnny Gomes experiment is over. Haha. I love that you still have to own this tonight. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Haha. I love that you still have to own this tonight. Well yeah, he had the biggest hit of the night and his biggest hit as a Red Sox. I think we all know from poker though that results-based thinking is stupid, and if Victorino is back tomorrow I hope Nava gets the start over Gomes again. Don't get me wrong, I have nothing but love for Gomes. But I hated seeing Nava out of the lineup indefinitely in favor of Gomes (especially since Gomes was ice cold), and I'd still rather have Nava in there unless a lefty is pitching, and the Cardinals have no lefty starters. Nava is also a better fielder. There was one fairly routine fly tonight that Gomes nearly turned into a hit because he broke back on it and had to sprint in and slide to catch it. Anyway, what a ridiculous way for the game to end, again. The best part was that it made Tim McCarver look like an idiot, cuz he was going on and on about how terrible it was for Napoli to be holding the runner on. He's apparently never heard of a double play, cuz most of his rant came when there was only 1 out. I certainly was surprised that Nap was still holding him on with 2 outs, but clearly there was a reason. Link to post Share on other sites
Cha! Cha! 628 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Baseball, amirite? If the Cards didn't have the super gimp running the bases, Salty wouldn't have even thought about making the play at 3rd. And probably a non-gimp doesn't trip all over himself trying to get home. Also: that play by Pedroia was incredible. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Gomes/Nava is a non-issue again tonight, with Victorino still hurt. Would have been interesting to see who Farrell went with. Probably Gomes after last night, which I wouldn't have hated, but Nava really hits righties way better than Gomes, and Gomes in turn hits lefties way better than Nava. . Jonny Gomes career splits: .225/.310/.423 vs righties .277/.377/.502 vs lefties Daniel Nava career splits: .292/.390/.443 vs righties .223/.307/.328 vs lefties Link to post Share on other sites
The Machine 210 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 At least they have Gomes hitting 4th. Link to post Share on other sites
Essay21 2,385 Posted October 28, 2013 Share Posted October 28, 2013 Pointless and uninformed prediction: cards win this game 4-3 and then win game 6, five runs to two. Link to post Share on other sites
The Machine 210 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 1 Link to post Share on other sites
NickCave 194 Posted October 29, 2013 Share Posted October 29, 2013 LOL. I don't know who The Machine is, but I'm on his team. Link to post Share on other sites
timwakefield 68 Posted October 30, 2013 Share Posted October 30, 2013 Tim McCarver explains the obstruction rule: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izxPeDiCs_U&feature=youtu.be Link to post Share on other sites
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