Confusing Spot

[Milton 0]

Playing the 6-max $22 deepstack on Stars yesterday when the following hand came about.Only had been at the same table as the villain for 15-20 hands. In that time span, I never saw his cards in a showdown. However, he did make 4 open raises preflop, 1 4x raises, 2 5x raises, and 1 6x raise. Yes, all OPEN raises, no limpers. On the 6-x raise, everyone folded preflop and he showed KQ offsuit.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 22 Tournament, 100/200 Blinds (6 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (Button) (t7480)SB (t15577)BB (t9378)UTG (t18260)Villain (MP) (t69436)CO (t43425)Hero's M: 24.93Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 91 fold, Villain calls t200, 1 fold, Hero bets t700, 2 folds, Villain calls t500Flop: (t1700) 2, 6, 4(2 players)Villain bets t800, Hero ?Haven't really seen the Villain play enough hands postflop to have any idea what he's doing. The donkbet tells me he's got something and I think a raise is really in order, but what is a good size in this scenario?One of the main ideas that crossed my mind was shoving. And I'm curious to see what the thoughts are on that.

[HighwayStar 8]

I think shoving is a little over the top but probably not terrible. In a heads up pot I'll usually call here (as I will with most of the rest of my range) and play pretty passively for the rest of the hand - trying to get to showdown cheaply. Generally I won't fold to many turn/river combosI think shoving or raise/calling it off is ok. If you raise, make it 2200.edit - If you don't think you'll feel comfortable playing later streets then definitely get more money in on the flop.

[rrumsey 0]

i almost wanna say minraise or micro raise to put some money in the middle but not blow this pot up too big with our hand. and it may force villain to slow down on the turn if he calls.

[kodkid 0]

Villian has a HUGE chip stack. given the fact that he didn't raise PF I am pretty sure he doesn't have a premium hand. However, he probably has overs or a drawing hand or something like that, I would not let him see them cheaply. He C-bet 800 into a 1500 pot which is only 1% of his stack. He probably just wanted to see if he could take it away cheaply. He might even have hit the board. I would shove in that instance, take that pot down quickly and not let him see another card.

[SwolyswoND 1]

I raise more pre - once a limper is in I throw away my 2.5x open rule for late stage play and revert to 3x + 1 BB per limper, so I make it at least 800. Maybe even higher since my hand is vulnerable to lots of flops.On the flop, this is a very similar spot to the other hand recently posted (99 overpair on rags flop, shallowish stacks). Because you will hate so many turn cards, and villain has so many draws in his range, I raise. At this point, if you raise the pot is 3300 plus your raise amount, and you would have 5900 behind to raise with. I think I just stick it in. I don't hate Highway's 2200 idea, if you do that you either snap his 3bet flop shove, or call/shove any turn.

[Fade2241 0]

shove here too, take the big stack to valuetown.

[Mercury69 3]

Unzip your fly, unleash Snakey, start stroking and shove your chips in with your other hand at the same time.

[JSpencer 0]

Unzip your fly, unleash Snakey, start stroking and shove your chips in with your other hand at the same time.

^ winner

[Milton 0]

I had been 2.5x raising and adding 1x for each limper, so I wanted to keep consistent. My logic for not boosting it more is knowing the guy probably had a weak hand because of the limp. Figured I could see a flop, c-bet and take it down or slow down and try see a showdown.However, this happened to be a 4s6s instacall. Usually, I only see leads like this with pair/draw combos or 2 overs and a flush draw and I didn't peg him as the type to play a set this way. So impossible to give him credit for 2 pair.Thanks for the reinforcement of what, in this instance, turned out to be play. I shoved figuring I could get a huge range of worse hands to call and knew that almost every single potential turn card leaves me wondering if my hand was still good. My stack size did play a role in my shoving too.However, let's say instead of having 6k left to shove on the turn, what are your thoughts on if I have, say, 15k? Do I even bother building a pot on the flop, or is it better to just flat and save a raise for the turn assuming it looks safe?