do you guys "hit and run" online?

[SAM_Hard8 50]

I love to play craps and I learned a long time ago that money management is the only way to have a chance at winning. It is the same for poker.Set a win goal, and if you hit it bank that money and don't dip back into it again that session. I know it can be hard to maintain that discipline at a hot table but it is the only way to be a consistent winner.Don't be afraid if people get mad at you for leaving with their money, it's your money now.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Did you see the post by that dude who made it to $500+ sitting at the .1/.15 table or whatever? The best I've ever done was about $260 at a .25/.50 table at my college.

Yeah...happened upon that thread after I posted that. That's pretty impressive.

[The Ace of Jades 0]

I'll say what Phil Gordon does in his book. While you might be limiting how much you can lose, you're also limiting how much you can win.

[Comatose_Soul 0]

I generally try to not to win and leave -- the only instances I can think of where I have left a table after winning (or a few hands after,) are when I was already past the amount of time I set aside to play - or if a tourney is starting and I want to focus on it.I'm normally shutting down tables (last to leave.) The last two days, I've made all my money when it got down to heads-up. Opponent went broke, and my session was done for the night

[joker12676 0]

I used to hit and run all the time. I built up a nice little BR but I was palying above it and it eventually caught up to me. It also gave me an inflated sense of how good I was.Now i set a limit in how much I can lose but as for how long I play if I'm winning or haven't lossed my limit I play until I'm tired an my attention wanders. (obviously then I'm not playing my best)

[deversm 0]

I like to leave a table after hitting a set amount of profit, so that in case I get called all in and lose I don't waste hours of work.  Do you guys do this?  Do you guys prefer to play it safe by taking out your winnings or to leave it in play on the table so you can potentially win a bigger pot?

Always stick to your money management system. be that person.

I agree. As your game evolves your money management system will more than likely evolve as well.

[UglyJimStudly 0]

Is there really a casino rule against ratholing or is this more of an ettiquite issue? I'm pretty sure I've seen this done at AC.

Ratholing is taking money off the table while you're playing, and there's rules against it at pretty much every casino I've ever heard of. What was described earlier (leaving your seat, cashing out, then buying in at another table) isn't against the rules anywhere, and you see it from time to time at casinos. It's much more common online where you can find new games much more quickly.

[Rocketwadster 0]

While it may be considered bad form to put your winnings "in your pocket" in the middle of the game, it is YOUR money, so you can do what you want with it, regardless of whether it is a home game, casino, or online poker. Who cares what other people may think about what you do with YOUR money when playing online or in a casino (home games are a little different, as they are usually filled with your buddies/relatives and mioght be on the receiving end of an atomic wedgie or something like that) :wink:

[ajs1281 0]

Online, I dont know why you would do that, and I have notes on all my hit and run people because i know they are just there to throw it in the middle and double up and move on so I stay clear unless I know I have them dominated, I just wait for them to come at me (and I usually have a much bigger stack than them because I am not doing a hit and run, so even if they get lucky its not going to cripple my buy-in)Live, my favorite people to see at the table are the "two stacks" people, the people who keep buy-in or profits in a a seperate pile, all you need to do is pressure them into knowing you will make them reach into that 2nd pile at one point in the hand and they will fold.

[LongOdds 0]

I think there are several valid reasons to hit and run, under the proper circumstances.First of all, if your table is full of capable players, except for one or two live fish, and you target the fish and wipe them out, I think leaving is a wise move. Another instance where I like to leave a profitable table, is when my tight-aggresive play is beginning to effect the play of others. If I sat down at a juicy table with a 44% seeing the flop, and that percent drops to 33%, I am likely to run with my winning and look for a better table. It isnt that this table cant be beat, its just that there are more profitable situations to be had.Lastly, I think some of the prior responses might have missed an important aspect to this dilemma. If everyone at the table has $25, I am fine with having everyone covered and having around $30. There is no need to have double or triple the stack as the other players. Covered is covered, its as simple as that. So, if leaving a table gives me the opportunity to set some of my original buyin aside as profit, and move on to another table where the max buyin will make me one of the big stacks (very common where I play), then I dont hesitiate to do it.All that being said, if you are leaving a game that is still ripe because you are scared to have all those chips in play, then you are doing yourself a disservice and that is a problem that should be corrected.....

[Erudis 0]

in limit poker i think you play however many hours you've planned on playing, or until some predetermined red flag has been raised (ie, you're down 25BB's and that is your stop-loss).i'm very unconvinced when it comes to NL holdem which is what i play.

I'll say what Phil Gordon does in his book. While you might be limiting how much you can lose, you're also limiting how much you can win.

which effectively means, you're controlling variance. i made a couple larger posts a month or so ago but i didn't see any good, rare insights so I dropped the discussion.I'm really not sure where I stand on this in regards to NL holdem. seems to me there should be some sort of middle ground - i'm currently trying to find it...at any rate, it is not so cut and dry as this: "if you're a good player, blah blah blah, leave all your money in jeapordy at all times...". I hate to say it, but I have to wonder how many people who have posted have had 2k sitting on the table and felt completely comfortable calling an all in with KK, tptk, Q-high flush, middle-set, 2nd nuts...I have a large enough bankroll to stand some swings, but there's several times i've rocked a table so hard, that I get uncomfortable with the amount of money i have at the table.as i said i'm currently on a huge downswing. i've lost more 90%ers since last saturday then I can ever remember losing in a full month I shit you not. nearly all of these losses where i've been 90%+ to win have been large pots (>$500). what has usually been the case is I come in and play my usual game, get up a ways, then BAM lose it all on a 90%er. if any of you guys remember that one example where you have AA 3x in a row versus pocket 2's. you are an underdog to win all 3. Obviously this example has some very blatant... flaws (ie you might lose the first, win the next two, or any other combination); but it gets you thinking about variance control when you're sitting with a large amount of money at the table.the problem is that poker is not 100% about skill - there is some % of luck that is always involved. you cannot simply outskill everybody forever in a gambling game. thus it seems to me that some idea of variance control or 'table-roll management' makes sense.During this retarded downswing of mine, i have always kept all the money on the table, however far up, and regardless of other stack-sizes at the table. I'm rethinking this and here is what I'm probably going to try for the next month:1. buy in for the max or nearly the max (as usual)2. if after doubling or tripling my buy-in (not sure which yet), I will look at the stacks at the table3a. if i have far and away the largest stack at the table, i'll just keep playing as normal (ie, if most people at the table are around the max buy in amount or less, I keep going)3b. if more than 2 or 3 or 4 (not sure what number yet) people at the table have me covered or have an equal stack, I will leave the table and go to another table.so there's a couple cents on the subject. really would like some good insight on this from someone and not the same old boring and narrow "well if you're a good player..." argument.

[DCWildcat 0]

As long as I feel I can beat the game, I stay. It's tempting to leave when you hit two huge hands really quickly to just leave and be happy that you're now 20BB richer, but profit really comes by sitting and milking those tables for all you've got.

[The Ace of Jades 0]

Phil Gordon was actually talking about nl games. If you get up from that table with 3 people who have you covered and go to another game you lose the chance to double up off those who have you covered.

[scweeber 0]

i hit and run occassionally... usually with a goal in mind, like "i'll play this table until i make $20 and thewn use that profit to play a SnG"...