Fade2241 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 2 nitty?PokerStars Game #41244334441: Tournament #253242276, $4.00+$0.40 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level IX (200/400) - 2010/03/16 11:25:32 ETTable '253242276 20' 9-max Seat #8 is the buttonSeat 1: osie32 (6193 in chips) Seat 2: Gordium323 (15865 in chips) Seat 4: lostbear08 (20961 in chips) Seat 6: IamiN4u (20515 in chips) Seat 8: frbidden (8725 in chips) Seat 9: serj_dawg (6165 in chips) osie32: posts the ante 50Gordium323: posts the ante 50lostbear08: posts the ante 50IamiN4u: posts the ante 50frbidden: posts the ante 50serj_dawg: posts the ante 50serj_dawg: posts small blind 200osie32: posts big blind 400*** HOLE CARDS ***Dealt to IamiN4u [Qc Ad]Gordium323: raises 1200 to 1600lostbear08: folds IamiN4u: folds frbidden: calls 1600serj_dawg: folds osie32: folds *** FLOP *** [Td 8c Jc]Gordium323: bets 1200frbidden: folds Uncalled bet (1200) returned to Gordium323Gordium323 collected 4100 from potGordium323: doesn't show hand *** SUMMARY ***Total pot 4100 | Rake 0 Board [Td 8c Jc]Seat 1: osie32 (big blind) folded before FlopSeat 2: Gordium323 collected (4100)Seat 4: lostbear08 folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 6: IamiN4u folded before Flop (didn't bet)Seat 8: frbidden (button) folded on the FlopSeat 9: serj_dawg (small blind) folded before Flopway too nitty. call at least, sometimes i raise. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I think in a 4.40 that is wayyy too nitty, but in other mtts, I really don't mind that as we are going to be put in really stupid spots to a 4x Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted March 18, 2010 Author Share Posted March 18, 2010 I think in a 4.40 that is wayyy too nitty, but in other mtts, I really don't mind that as we are going to be put in really stupid spots to a 4xit's my standard tbh. You can't really flat a utg open which is a 4x that is 10% of his stack profitably. If you flop an ace you're going to have to get it in and play an 80bb pot hoping he has AJ. You're going to be folding the flop alot and not comfortable AT ALL getting it in with 1 pair and you are going to on all flops we flop TP unless it's really wet. Just fold and try working your stack to accumlate and play smaller pots in position preferably with the intiative. Link to post Share on other sites
Fade2241 0 Posted March 18, 2010 Share Posted March 18, 2010 After the call is made pf, that's a horrid fold otf. I can see you making a case for a fold pf in other MTT's but in a $4 180 that's not optimal at all as people play so straight forward. I don't have the same experience you do loosh playing higher buy-ins but in the lower buy-ins i am playing this all day. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 After the call is made pf, that's a horrid fold otf. I can see you making a case for a fold pf in other MTT's but in a $4 180 that's not optimal at all as people play so straight forward. I don't have the same experience you do loosh playing higher buy-ins but in the lower buy-ins i am playing this all day.You do realize Hero folded PF? There was no horrid flop fold Link to post Share on other sites
delved 0 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 I use a rule: Don't 3bet AQ pre if you aren't willing to get it in aipf.Like looshle said it's hard to play profitably just flatting as well. Link to post Share on other sites
vbnautilus 48 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 2 nitty?Please convert your hands!A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em ($4.00+$0.40) t200/t400 ante t50 - 6 playersBB osie32: t6,193 UTG Gordium323: t15,865 UTG+1 lostbear08: t20,961 CO Hero: t20,515 Button frbidden: t8,725 SB serj_dawg: t6,165 Preflop: (t900) Hero is CO with (6 players)Gordium323 raises to t1600, lostbear08 folds, Hero folds, frbidden calls t1600, 2 foldsFlop: (t4,100) (2 players)Gordium323 bets t1200, frbidden foldsGordium323 collected t4100 Link to post Share on other sites
Fade2241 0 Posted March 19, 2010 Share Posted March 19, 2010 You do realize Hero folded PF? There was no horrid flop foldlol, i didn't. totally misread the hh. my bad. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 Sorry I lost the hand history...but I wanted to ask about a deep tournament situation that came up and I am more curious about my opponent's play.15 people left, 8k for first.I am 14/15 with about 200,000 chips exactly. I am in the BB. The SB is 2/15. He has about 850,000 chips. Blinds are 8000/16000.I have been playing very tight as I have been card dead. SB has been a little loose. We have had very few blind v blind battles. One time, he raised and I pushed over him. Two other times, he raised and took it. Anyway, it folds to him in the SB and he raises to 40,000 with Ks5s. I have AdQc in the BB and my play is obvious....I wait a few seconds and then push.Now what do you do if you are him? Link to post Share on other sites
Tehtoe 3 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 If I'm him I shove pre, as played I'm snapping. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 If I'm him I shove pre, as played I'm snapping.Can you elaborate? I think I am playing too tight late and I need to understand better how/why/when you need to loosen it up late. Because I would have shoved preflop if I were him but I would not have snap called if I played it as he did with the raise to 40k. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 160 to call 240 + antes to win, say 250.25:16 = 1.56:1 so he needs 39% against your range.He has over 39% against 20% of hands which is prob a decent reshoving rangeHand 0: 39.819% { K5s }Hand 1: 60.181% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }but i think his best play is to shove pre, he's rarely getting more than break even equity on most raise/calls. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 160 to call 240 + antes to win, say 250.25:16 = 1.56:1 so he needs 39% against your range.He has over 39% against 20% of hands which is prob a decent reshoving rangeHand 0: 39.819% { K5s }Hand 1: 60.181% { 66+, A4s+, K8s+, Q9s+, J9s+, T9s, A9o+, KTo+, QTo+, JTo }but i think his best play is to shove pre, he's rarely getting more than break even equity on most raise/calls.ok, thanks. I really have some work to do on my play deep in mtt's. Link to post Share on other sites
HighwayStar 8 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 To be honest I really dislike raise/callling there. There is so little edge if any. Shoving is definitely going to yield a decent profit. Link to post Share on other sites
CaneBrain 95 Posted March 20, 2010 Share Posted March 20, 2010 To be honest I really dislike raise/callling there. There is so little edge if any. Shoving is definitely going to yield a decent profit.I was surprised he snap called since I had been playing so tight. Just shoving by him makes more sense.Unfortunately, I suck with AQ. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted March 24, 2010 Author Share Posted March 24, 2010 ya the k5ss is the easiest jam in the world. once it folds to him, hes pretty much playing for your stack. R/f would be terrible for him. Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Seems I need a lot of work on bvb play. Looshle, can you give a general primer for the ranges to jam from the SB given various effective stack sizes? Link to post Share on other sites
DonkSlayer 1 Posted March 25, 2010 Share Posted March 25, 2010 Play any different? Huge $4.40 on Pstars with 2k guaranteed. About 900 left out of 2800 or so. Looking back I guess I didn't need to raise the flop that much but I misread the lead size. PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 4.4 Tournament, 60/120 Blinds 15 Ante (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP1 (t4895)MP2 (t9645)MP3 (t11545)Hero (CO) (t19170)Button (t4215)SB (t7825)BB (t4055)UTG (t2560)UTG+1 (t7230)Hero's M: 60.86Preflop: Hero is CO with , 1 fold, UTG+1 calls t120, 1 fold, MP2 bets t360, MP3 calls t360, Hero calls t360, 3 folds, UTG+1 calls t240Flop: (t1755) , , (4 players)UTG+1 checks, MP2 bets t120, MP3 calls t120, Hero raises to t2111, 1 fold, MP2 calls t1991, MP3 calls t1991Turn: (t8088) (3 players)MP2 checks, MP3 bets t480, Hero calls t480, MP2 calls t480River: (t9528) (3 players)MP2 checks, MP3 bets t840, Hero calls t840, Link to post Share on other sites
SwolyswoND 1 Posted March 26, 2010 Share Posted March 26, 2010 Nothing wrong with that raise size at all. If anything you could make a case for raising bigger. For turn/river IPITS, you can't fold given the price. MP3 is godawful, no matter what he had. Link to post Share on other sites
looshle 6 Posted March 26, 2010 Author Share Posted March 26, 2010 Nothing wrong with that raise size at all. If anything you could make a case for raising bigger. For turn/river IPITS, you can't fold given the price. MP3 is godawful, no matter what he had.This.He should have dimes or JT to be able to call/call on the flop but its way too cheap on the river to fold. Link to post Share on other sites
nutzzcase 0 Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 can I get away from this hand ?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2925)BB (t6950)UTG (t2113)Hero (UTG+1) (t3271)MP1 (t3165)MP2 (t3450)MP3 (t3306)CO (t2420)Button (t2400)Hero's M: 14.54Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, A1 fold, Hero bets t344, 2 folds, MP3 calls t344, 4 foldsFlop: (t913) 5, K, 10(2 players)Hero bets t600, MP3 calls t600Turn: (t2113) A(2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t900, Hero calls t900River: (t3913) 10(2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t1462 (All-In), Hero calls t1427 (All-In)Total pot: t6767 Link to post Share on other sites
BenRobbin 0 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Aces early postition under the gun in a cash game? One caller, Say you throw out a feeler bet and they raise you on the flop or another one was on the turn. should you fold or call til river?Board: Qs 10s 6c Link to post Share on other sites
donk4life 34 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Aces early postition under the gun in a cash game? One caller, Say you throw out a feeler bet and they raise you on the flop or another one was on the turn. should you fold or call til river?if you'd post hand histories it'd make it much easier to give analysis to hands. Link to post Share on other sites
JSpencer 0 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 can I get away from this hand ?PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, 11 Tournament, 75/150 Blinds (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB (t2925)BB (t6950)UTG (t2113)Hero (UTG+1) (t3271)MP1 (t3165)MP2 (t3450)MP3 (t3306)CO (t2420)Button (t2400)Hero's M: 14.54Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with J, A1 fold, Hero bets t344, 2 folds, MP3 calls t344, 4 foldsFlop: (t913) 5, K, 10(2 players)Hero bets t600, MP3 calls t600Turn: (t2113) A(2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t900, Hero calls t900River: (t3913) 10(2 players)Hero checks, MP3 bets t1462 (All-In), Hero calls t1427 (All-In)Total pot: t6767 Fold Preflop. Raising with AJ there is just silly. Link to post Share on other sites
TrueAce13 18 Posted April 1, 2010 Share Posted April 1, 2010 Fold Preflop. Raising with AJ there is just silly.wow, jspencahhhhh is destroying these threads Link to post Share on other sites
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