Random Hands Looking For Feedback Please...

[KosinTrouble 0]

I was at the table for a while, been raising preflop lots with any decent starting hand.just curious if I should have raised him on the turn, or if the reraise at the end was good. Thinking back, I think if I would have min raised him after the turn, he would have still called and I could have gotten an extra bet out of him.i know the river looked scary with all the straight draws, but I know my read on him was right, either mid-upper pair or A9.Anyways feedback is always wanted by this new fish, be it good or negative feedback, I want it all.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.02 BB (9 handed) - Poker-Stars Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (Button) ($4.67)SB ($3)BB ($0.85)UTG ($3.45)UTG+1 ($4.77)MP1 ($2.45)MP2 ($2.22)MP3 ($5)CO ($2.95)Preflop: Hero is Button with 4, 4UTG calls $0.02, 5 folds, Hero calls $0.02, 1 fold, BB checksFlop: ($0.07) 5, 2, 9(3 players)BB checks, UTG bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, 1 foldTurn: ($0.11) 4(2 players)UTG bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06River: ($0.23) 6(2 players)UTG bets $0.16, Hero raises to $0.32, 1 foldTotal pot: $0.55 | Rake: $0Results below: Hero didn't show 4, 4 (nothing).Outcome: Hero won $0.55Kosin Trouble

[Ninja Ace 1]

can't see the suits... but unless if there's 4 to a flush on the turn this is an easy pot sized raise... that's why ur in such an ugly spot on the river when 4 to a straight comes out because you have trouble getting a call from worse hands since you aren't the aggressor.

[KosinTrouble 0]

can't see the suits... but unless if there's 4 to a flush on the turn this is an easy pot sized raise... that's why ur in such an ugly spot on the river when 4 to a straight comes out because you have trouble getting a call from worse hands since you aren't the aggressor.

No, it was randow flop, turn made 4suites and river made 2spades, 1club, 1heart, 1diamond..I understand though what yo umean by having troubel getting a call from worse hands, Thanks for the feedback!Kosin Trouble

[KingJames 11]

Yes, raise the turn for value.Between .15 and .19 probably.

[droberts 3]

No, it was randow flop, turn made 4suites and river made 2spades, 1club, 1heart, 1diamond..I understand though what yo umean by having troubel getting a call from worse hands, Thanks for the feedback!Kosin Trouble

he wasnt saying that the board had 4 of one suit.. he was saying unless it has 4 of one suit, then you should raise the turn.

[KosinTrouble 0]

he wasnt saying that the board had 4 of one suit.. he was saying unless it has 4 of one suit, then you should raise the turn.

My reply was not done well. He said he couldnt see the suits, so I mentioned the suit.Then because a possible straight was showing and because I was not the agressor on the turn and that was why i didnt get action after the flop at least thats what I think he was meaning, thats the way I understood it, please correct me if I am wrong.Sorry still new to the posting/forum thing, usually a lurker but really want to get moving and increase my poker knowledge. Thanks for being patient with me...Kosin Trouble

[mtdesmoines 3]

Anyone mention raise turn ???

[KingJames 11]

Yes, raise the turn for value.Between .15 and .19 probably.

Anyone mention raise turn ???

[Hector Cerif 0]

Although this is may be results-oriented thinking- doesn't it seem like had we raised the turn in this hand we wouldn't have achieved maximum value?My first instinct was to raise the turn as well, but villain winds up donk-betting river and folding to a min raise- would he have called a raise on the turn?

[potatoman 0]

Although this is may be results-oriented thinking- doesn't it seem like had we raised the turn in this hand we wouldn't have achieved maximum value?My first instinct was to raise the turn as well, but villain winds up donk-betting river and folding to a min raise- would he have called a raise on the turn?

I think it is results-oriented thinking. I think if the question is - what should our line be on the turn, we should ignore whatever happens after that.In this case, I think we can usually raise on the turn. Lots of scare cards can come on the river that hurt our action. Betting forces draws to become more expensive, and if villain improves to 2 pair on the river, we are able to build a bigger pot. Plus we're ahead here almost always and it's 1c/2c so betting with strong hands should be standard. Opponent dependent of course.

[Ninja Ace 1]

Although this is may be results-oriented thinking- doesn't it seem like had we raised the turn in this hand we wouldn't have achieved maximum value?

We hit a setget stacks in ASAP

[mtdesmoines 3]

We hit a setget stacks in ASAP

We're good here +++++++90% of the time, and we need to get money in to get value when we're this strong. And in a limped pot, villain could show up w 2 pair, a cynical top pair, nutso, whatever. Establish chipflow potwards.

[Biff Goods 0]

Anyone interested in button raising here pf? I don't really see a downside.

[Ninja Ace 1]

Anyone interested in button raising here pf? I don't really see a downside.

It's 2NL and you're going to be playing for a set in most of the pots you raise as well... the players are so bad they worry about their cards much more than pot size so your ability to get stacks be it a limped pot or raised pot remains virtually the same.

[trystero 0]

PF is a clear raise regardless of stakes. There's no reason to limp behind here especially since we're deep..

[Ninja Ace 1]

There's no reason to limp behind here especially since we're deep..

Yuh huh... playing 24 tables on Stars ABCDEFG is a pretty good reason ... srsly it's penny stakes play like ultra nit, volume, profits

[rrumsey 0]

Yuh huh... playing 24 tables on Stars ABCDEFG is a pretty good reason ... srsly it's penny stakes play like ultra nit, volume, profits

meh, a raise wouldnt be bad, but at this limit i just say make our hands and go insane then. no need for any deception. but it should in theory be a raise. either way we need to vbet a sick amount when we hit the set and get max value once we have it, regardless of how we got there.

[SCS 0]

Calling or raising preflop are both fine, but I think raising is better.