Olympic Tawk

[serge 904]

Dale a few pages back you offered Swiss to NOT win a medal at 50-1...I wanted to book it, but you got scared...I still obviously like to book it, and will lower the odds to 30 to 1....Interested..??

[MapleLeafpoker 1,462]

Olympics - Men , Hockey Slovakia vs Russia To win, +650 Risking 80.00 to Win 520.00 CAD......but I lost.damn 60min games.

[Untilted 158]

Even Pittsburg gets the odd PP goal. Russia is 1-13 for a 7.69% PP. For such a stacked line-up this is horrible.There is alot of very weak penalties being called yet some of the most obvious ones are not getting called. I have seen at least a dozen hits from behind and hits to the head that should be called under IIHF rules, and usally are.Go scroll down to the attendance part. How the hell is canada not the lead here

Most if not all mens hockey games are sell outs.There is such a huge demand for the media for Canada games that the media has taken away some of the spectator seats

[MapleLeafpoker 1,462]

what a game..I had it down to slovakia -.5 + 294 , however i thought i take a shot and go Slovakia +590...And it came in..WEEEthanks to Switzerland +4.5 and the biatch curling parlay it was a very profitable night.

nice, those are good odds for no ties.

[MapleLeafpoker 1,462]

Anyone else stay up and watch the RUS-SLV game? While the bet had me interested I would concede, I thought it was a great game. And even with Russia still not at 100% (they really look disorganized and lost out there at times), it was still some sick hockey. No way should Slovakia have been an 18-1 dog to win that group. Going back to John's question about top 7 and next team to crack it......interestingly enough, Switz is actually ranked 7th in IIHF. Slovakia is 10th. I think Germany could easily move up, but they just dont have the grass roots foundation, not enough kids taking up+sticking with hockey. I think the Swiss could become a possibility, but still not there. I wonder if there is anyone in the B group that could suprise in 5-10yrs?

[Zach6668 513]

Olympics - Men , Hockey Slovakia vs Russia To win, +650 Risking 80.00 to Win 520.00 CAD......but I lost.damn 60min games.

I hate those 3-way lines. A win is a win, IMO.

[Zach6668 513]

Anyone else stay up and watch the RUS-SLV game? While the bet had me interested I would concede, I thought it was a great game. And even with Russia still not at 100% (they really look disorganized and lost out there at times), it was still some sick hockey. No way should Slovakia have been an 18-1 dog to win that group. Going back to John's question about top 7 and next team to crack it......interestingly enough, Switz is actually ranked 7th in IIHF. Slovakia is 10th. I think Germany could easily move up, but they just dont have the grass roots foundation, not enough kids taking up+sticking with hockey. I think the Swiss could become a possibility, but still not there. I wonder if there is anyone in the B group that could suprise in 5-10yrs?

I watched it. I really enjoyed it.

[serge 904]

nice, those are good odds for no ties.

ya i was surprised when they were offering the line INCLUDING ot and shootout..thinking it was way off. Very happy though

[coesillian 0]

I was starting to feel a little hockey overdosed after watching most of the 9 first games of the Olympics, but that SLVK-RUS game was good and I was glad i watched it through. I liked the Slovaks from the get go, I like them better than the Finns, Halak was outstanding last night.I didn't like the decision to use Ovechkin twice in the shootout. His stats don't support him being used twice, oddly Crosby stats aren't much better 18/46 career shootout vs 12/46 by Ovy. Crosby has been good this season though going 6 for 8 or something like that. Datsyuk should have shot 4th and then 5th and 6th until it was over.

[troyomac 0]

I was starting to feel a little hockey overdosed after watching most of the 9 first games of the Olympics, but that SLVK-RUS game was good and I was glad i watched it through. I liked the Slovaks from the get go, I like them better than the Finns, Halak was outstanding last night.I didn't like the decision to use Ovechkin twice in the shootout. His stats don't support him being used twice, oddly Crosby stats aren't much better 18/46 career shootout vs 12/46 by Ovy. Crosby has been good this season though going 6 for 8 or something like that. Datsyuk should have shot 4th and then 5th and 6th until it was over.

39% is MUCH MUCH better than 26%, and I'd have to think 39% is a very very good shootout percentage.

[JoeyJoJo 18]

39% is MUCH MUCH better than 26%, and I'd have to think 39% is a very very good shootout percentage.

Career leaders, 20 or more attemptsKozlov, Vyacheslav ATL 27 46 58.7%Jokinen, Jussi CAR 26 48 54.2%Toews, Jonathan CHI 13 24 54.2%Wolski, Wojtek COL 18 34 52.9%Christensen, Erik NYR 17 33 51.5%Kotalik, Ales CGY 21 42 50.0%Pavelski, Joe SJS 16 32 50.0%Datsyuk, Pavel DET 23 47 48.9%Kariya, Paul STL 12 26 46.2%Kopitar, Anze LAK 16 35 45.7%Parise, Zach NJD 20 44 45.5%Demitra, Pavol VAN 14 31 45.2%Kane, Patrick CHI 14 31 45.2%Koivu, Mikko MIN 19 42 45.2%Langenbrunner, Jamie NJD 12 27 44.4%O'Sullivan, Patrick EDM 12 27 44.4%Elias, Patrik NJD 14 32 43.8%Briere, Danny PHI 14 32 43.8%Boyes, Brad STL 18 42 42.9%Selanne, Teemu ANA 14 33 42.4%Richards, Brad DAL 18 43 41.9%Letang, Kris PIT 10 24 41.7%Gionta, Brian MTL 16 39 41.0%Hejduk, Milan COL 16 39 41.0%Dawes, Nigel CGY 9 22 40.9%Koivu, Saku ANA 11 27 40.7%Jokinen, Olli NYR 14 35 40.0%Kovalev, Alexei OTT 14 35 40.0%Williams, Jason DET 12 30 40.0%Cullen, Matt OTT 11 28 39.3%Crosby, Sidney PIT 18 46 39.1%Erat, Martin NSH 10 26 38.5%Satan, Miroslav BOS 13 34 38.2%Pominville, Jason BUF 8 21 38.1%Ribeiro, Mike DAL 13 35 37.1%Hossa, Marian CHI 14 38 36.8%Kessel, Philip TOR 11 30 36.7%Brown, Dustin LAK 11 30 36.7%Frolov, Alexander LAK 8 22 36.4%Svatos, Marek COL 12 33 36.4%Weight, Doug NYI 8 22 36.4%Spezza, Jason OTT 9 25 36.0%Stafford, Drew BUF 9 25 36.0%Getzlaf, Ryan ANA 15 42 35.7%Nash, Rick CBJ 16 45 35.6%Huselius, Kristian CBJ 11 31 35.5%Alfredsson, Daniel OTT 11 31 35.5%Doan, Shane PHX 7 20 35.0%Kunitz, Chris PIT 7 20 35.0%Stempniak, Lee TOR 7 20 35.0%Hemsky, Ales EDM 16 46 34.8%Mueller, Peter PHX 8 23 34.8%McDonald, Andy STL 12 35 34.3%Perry, Corey ANA 11 33 33.3%Richards, Mike PHI 10 30 33.3%Vrbata, Radim PHX 10 31 32.3%Semin, Alexander WSH 9 28 32.1%Reinprecht, Steven FLA 7 22 31.8%Roy, Derek BUF 7 22 31.8%Sullivan, Steve NSH 7 22 31.8%Marleau, Patrick SJS 7 23 30.4%Kesler, Ryan VAN 6 20 30.0%Wheeler, Blake BOS 6 20 30.0%Zetterberg, Henrik DET 11 37 29.7%Smyth, Ryan LAK 8 27 29.6%Sturm, Marco BOS 8 27 29.6%Tanguay, Alex TBL 7 24 29.2%Bertuzzi, Todd DET 7 24 29.2%Lecavalier, Vincent TBL 12 42 28.6%Modano, Mike DAL 7 25 28.0%Hunter, Trent NYI 6 22 27.3%Ovechkin, Alex WSH 12 44 27.3%

[troyomac 0]

Wow, I'm surprised at that.

[Zach6668 513]

Looks like there's only about 12 Olympians with a higher career shootout percentage greater than Sid's.Here's the thing about Crosby. Coesillian mentioned that he's been deadly this year 6 or 7/8. But the thing Crosby thrives on is the pressure, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's nobody better when the game is actually on the line.

[Speed Limit 0]

LOLOL Nigel Dawes.

[LongLiveYorke 38]

Not giving Datsyuk was a mistake. Giving Crosby another shot was not a mistake. If I'm Russia, I'm rolling Ovey, Datsyuk, and Kovalchuk. If I'm Canada, I'm alternating Crosby and maybe a handful of others (meaning, for example, Crosby, Marleau, Crosby, Heatly, Crosby, Iginla, etc)

[Speed Limit 0]

Not giving Datsyuk was a mistake. Giving Crosby another shot was not a mistake. If I'm Russia, I'm rolling Ovey, Datsyuk, and Kovalchuk. If I'm Canada, I'm alternating Crosby and maybe a handful of others (meaning, for example, Crosby, Marleau, Crosby, Heatly, Crosby, Iginla, etc)

They also had Getzlaf who fricken plays with Hiller, so I'm sure they would have gone back to him as well.

[JoeyJoJo 18]

But the thing Crosby thrives on is the pressure, and I wouldn't be surprised if there's nobody better when the game is actually on the line.

Two points:1. Isn't the game basically always on the line in a shootout?2. Crosby has more "game deciding goals" in a shootout than anyone, with 12. Ales Kotalik and Vyacheslav Kozlov have 11, Philip Kessel has 10.I'm not even sure what game deciding means. Wouldn't a big part of that be when in the order you shoot?

[Zach6668 513]

Two points:1. Isn't the game basically always on the line in a shootout?2. Crosby has more "game deciding goals" in a shootout than anyone, with 12. Ales Kotalik and Vyacheslav Kozlov have 11, Philip Kessel has 10.I'm not even sure what game deciding means. Wouldn't a big part of that be when in the order you shoot?

1. Yeah, but I mean, if it comes down to him, score and it's over, I think he's a lot more clutch than most. Certainly just a hunch, and I definitely don't watch all shootouts, it's just the way he gets when something is on the line.2. Yeah, it's the same as "Game-Winning Goal", like if he shot first, scored, then Fleury stopped the rest, even if the 2nd Penguins shooter scored, I'm 99% sure Sid would get the GDG. I guess it's a function of where you shoot, I dunno. Sid is usually 3rd, but I mean, they put him there for a reason, because of his clutchitude.

[coesillian 0]

If the coaches weren't aware of their player shootout stats before last night I'm sure they've made themselves aware now.I've become used to the shootout and it didn't really bother me that a shootout was going to decide the winner of this fairly important game. Once overtime started I could look forward to closure within a couple minutes. If it were the NHL playoffs it could have lasted a couple more periods. I think using 5 shooters would be a good addition as well, then allow for repeat shooters.

[serge 904]

repeat shooters is BAD..Very bad...

[Zach6668 513]

repeat shooters is BAD..Very bad...

Why?

[JoeyJoJo 18]

Why?

Because the game is only decided by a few players and team depth will never come into play. I also like the idea of not allowing repeat shooters.

[serge 904]

Why?

here is my thinking:The Shoot out is too individualistic as it is...by allowing the same shooter to shoot it makes it even worse...Canada Russia Shootout....Isnt Canada Russia anymore , its just Crosby vs Datysuk...I am in favour of having 5 shooters like the AHL, and no repeat shooters..At least you are getting more players involved..We have had the argument before how the shootout is bad, but thats another discussion.

[Belanger25 3]

I don't mind repeating shooters in International tournaments. Teams are so deep anyway who cares who shoots.

[serge 904]

I don't mind repeating shooters in International tournaments. Teams are so deep anyway who cares who shoots.

but not all teams are that deep..For example the Swiss have only 2 or 3 legit shooters...Also certain players are way better in shootouts than others, as Zach has pointed out.