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nbd, just a little value raise... checked turn to induce river bluff which I snap obv... thought about value betting river alsoferal_cow_icon.gifCows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $26.00 CO: $25.00 Button: $26.52 (Hero)SB: $32.65 BB: $36.17 UTG: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with Jd.gif9h.gif (6 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB folds, BB calls $0.35Flop: ($1.30) 7h.gif6c.gifQc.gif (2 players)BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $1.10Turn: ($4.50) As.gif (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($4.50) Qh.gif (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksHero showed Jd.gif9h.gif, and won ($4.28) with a pair of QueensBB mucked 4s.gif5d.gifHero won $4.28(Rake: $0.22)
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This deserves to get seen by a few more people. From our resident Stupidhead...v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton: $237.98SB: $200.00BB: $60.00

I remember when this thread was all about how bad KJ was at 3betting

He's probably not flatting KJ's raise otf if he had a2. Besides, A2 is such a small portion of his range here, we are never ever ever ever ever ever ever folding the turn. People are stupid, they do

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yeah, it was just a funny handvillain donks weak so I'm gonna raise almost my entire range there... and we check it down for the j-high showdown winnerit's that value bluffi click buttons ldo
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Villian is 48/46/AF 14.2 over 103 hands. Bets flop/turn/river 100%/85%/92%I thought of raising him, but then I thought.. Why do the pushing when donkeys do the pulling. You guys ok with just c/c all the way down with a guy like this?Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1119278DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterMP: $14.94CO: $12.97BTN: $16.00Hero (SB): $10.00BB: $10.84UTG: $28.49Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with T :ts T :heart:UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, BTN raises to $0.20, Hero calls $0.15, BB calls $0.10, UTG calls $0.10Flop: ($0.80) 3 :3h 8 :qh 2 :club:(4 players)Hero checks, BB checks, UTG checks, BTN bets $0.80, Hero calls $0.80, BB folds, UTG foldsTurn: ($2.40) 3 :5c(2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $2.40, Hero calls $2.40River: ($7.20) 3 :4h(2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $7.20, Hero calls $6.60 all in

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This hand just happened and was pretty funny... Decided to do the Tommy Angelo just say yes to every poker question they askAfter flop Villian says the following in chat...Villian: Hmm big bet you got aces?Me: YesAfter TurnVillian: Guess you dont have acesMe: YesVillian: Yes you have Aces?Me: YesVillian: Are you a fish?Me: YesAfter River:Villian: If I check will you shove?Me: YesVillian: Ok, I callFull Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 1119294DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterCO: $26.06BTN: $12.31SB: $17.80BB: $8.85UTG: $16.36Hero (MP): $10.00CO posts a big blind ($0.10)Pre Flop: ($0.30) Hero is MP with A :D A :3h1 fold, Hero raises to $0.60, CO calls $0.50, 3 foldsFlop: ($1.40) 4 :club: 8 :qh J :ts(2 players)Hero bets $1.20, CO calls $1.20Turn: ($3.80) A :4h(2 players)Hero bets $3.10, CO calls $3.10River: ($10.00) 8 :5c(2 players)Hero bets $5.10 all in, CO calls $5.10Final Pot: $20.20CO mucks 4 :D 4 :heart:Hero shows A :D A :jh (a full house, Aces full of Eights)Hero wins $18.86(Rake: $1.34)

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One of the things I've been messing around with this month is bvb play.I heard somewhere that at these stakes, it can be profitable to raise the majority of your SB when it's folded to you, and then if you're called just play fit or fold. It seems passive at first, but the majority of your value is coming from all the times the BB folds since most players won't defend their BB as often as they should when the SB open raises.I've only got 123 hands so far this month in these spots, but I'm up almost 4 BI's. Ran good in some spots, but not losing anything major in the pots I don't win. Those little pots you win when they fold pre do add up over time.
These also come up live. At my local 3/6 NLHE game, almost everyone chops the blinds if it is folded around to the SB, but I always felt that I was losing a tonnnnnn of value here, so I made it known to everyone that I NEVER chop my blind. I have easily made 1 BI, and probably a lot more just from BvB play since making that switch. Indeed, Stupidhead was jealous enough that he started following the same policy.
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These also come up live. At my local 3/6 NLHE game, almost everyone chops the blinds if it is folded around to the SB, but I always felt that I was losing a tonnnnnn of value here, so I made it known to everyone that I NEVER chop my blind. I have easily made 1 BI, and probably a lot more just from BvB play since making that switch. Indeed, Stupidhead was jealous enough that he started following the same policy.
Sample size ? Probably play about 4SB's a session live; Having it fold all the way around to the SB in a live game happens about twice a year in my experience. Also depending on the rake structure it might be better to chop. I feel sorry for the fish in this hand. Poor bastard, probably got the maximum from me too before the major suckout. He raises pre I fold, He leads out full on flop I fold, He shoves or bets big on turn I fold feral_cow_icon.gifMilked from the teat of a feral cowHEM/IPoker NL Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersBB: $50.00 UTG: $70.22 UTG+1: $50.00 CO: $21.63 Button: $68.91 (Hero)SB: $18.58 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with :5c:3h (6 players)2 folds, CO calls $0.50, Hero raises to $2.25, 2 folds, CO calls $1.75Flop: ($5.25) :4h:ts:qh (2 players)CO bets $1.00, Hero raises to $4.00, CO calls $3.00Turn: ($13.25) :D (2 players)CO bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00River: ($15.25) :club: (2 players)CO bets $7.63, Hero raises to $15.26, CO calls $6.75CO showed :jh:D, Hero won $42.69
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Now I have heard of fish not being able to laydown fullhouses when they 22 and the board is kkk66 and other type hands. But even this one made me type in What!?Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1120701DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History ConverterBTN: $6.96SB: $15.11BB: $6.70UTG: $14.85Hero (CO): $10.00Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is CO with A :ts 8 :4h1 fold, Hero raises to $0.30, BTN calls $0.30, 2 foldsFlop: ($0.75) 2 :5c J :3h Q :qh(2 players)Hero checks, BTN bets $0.40, Hero raises to $0.80, BTN calls $0.40Turn: ($2.35) 5 :D(2 players)Hero bets $1.40, BTN calls $1.40River: ($5.15) 2 :D(2 players)Hero bets $7.50 all in, BTN calls $4.46 all inFinal Pot: $14.07BTN mucks 3 :club: 4 :club:Hero shows A :jh 8 :D (a flush, Ace high)Hero wins $13.14(Rake: $0.93)

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Sample size ? Probably play about 4SB's a session live; Having it fold all the way around to the SB in a live game happens about twice a year in my experience. Also depending on the rake structure it might be better to chop.
Sample size may be low, but not ridiculously low -- probably around twice a night. But it is ridiculously +EV in those spots. Stupidhead can confirm this.They don't take a rake until post-flop and since I will never take the opportunity to limp the SB or check the BB after a limped SB, any pot that *does* get raked will be large enough to expect one.
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Sizing questions?feral_cow_icon.gifConverted by a herd of feral cowsPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersButton: $27.33 SB: $33.56 BB: $10.00 UTG: $36.37 (Hero)UTG+1: $25.00 CO: $27.99 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with Qc.gifQh.gif (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $1.25, Button calls $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.25Gonna be a couple more...

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feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow PokerPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 5 playersButton: $9.47 SB: $25.45 BB: $51.41 (Hero)UTG: $27.66 CO: $25.25 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with :club::ts (5 players)UTG folds, CO raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, SB raises to $3, Hero raises to $6.50
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feral_cow_icon.gifbeware the feral cow packs. they hunger.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $46.78 CO: $31.16 Button: $25.00 SB: $40.52 (Hero)BB: $25.00 UTG: $25.35 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is SB with :ts:club: (6 players)3 folds, Button raises to $0.75, Hero raises to $3
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@88 I normally go to $2.50 as I like to give myself a good price on bluffs. Obv the smaller we 3b the wider their calling range will be, but I think ppl will play kinda straight forward vs our cbets in these spots.All of this is assuming villains are TAG and such... without reads all these spots are a little different

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I need to get my HEM running again. I had to reload windows a while back. I basically just dig thru text files looking for interesting spots. Thats why lack of reads or stats.The next 2 are just cluelessness from hero...feral_cow_icon.gifConverting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG: $25.35 UTG+1: $22.15 CO: $25.59 Button: $31.90 (Hero)SB: $26.70 BB: $32.95 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with :4h:club: (6 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $1, SB raises to $3, BB folds, Hero calls $2Flop: ($6.25) :5c:qh:ts (2 players)SB checks, Hero checksTurn: ($6.25) :jh (2 players)SB bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50River: ($13.25) :3h (2 players)SB bets $5, Hero?

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