New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[KingJames 11]

Immediately drop back down as it is a shinigami dropping boards for you. Also, raise turn

I'd fold pre

[fighter 4]

LOL... did you really time out or is that a justification for checking the turn?

I really timed out. He has more combos of sets and flush draws then miracle 45, 24 draws. Usually timing out screws you over completely. That is why I love this hand.

[QED 4]

Nice time out tarp skills.

[meservery 0]

Also, raise turn

igoring results...I thought about raising turn, but wouldnt that fold out lots of his Aces? Also arent I in a very tough spot if I get re-raised? If i flat and then villain checks the river i can value bet and get called by an Ace, hoping he'd think i missed hearts.

[meservery 0]

I'd fold pre

But I have position and a sooted T8!seriously though. how loose of a call is in on a scale of 1-10? whats the bottom of your range for calling here.against the button i'd 3 bet or fold normally... but with position shouldn't we be calling blind v blind?

[trystero 0]

So maybe i've gone crazy with overwhelming myself with too much info/tables... but is it me or have all cash tables become significantly more difficult in general?I could use some basic protips on where to brush up as I want to stop grinding SNGs the moment my working BR is a healthy K again.

cash is just kinda tough in general...far fewer fishimo deep nitring is where it's at.

[SuperJon 175]

But I have position and a sooted T8!seriously though. how loose of a call is in on a scale of 1-10? whats the bottom of your range for calling here.against the button i'd 3 bet or fold normally... but with position shouldn't we be calling blind v blind?

If you're planning on making moves at the pot postflop and not just trying to flop the nuts, I think calling can be okay. 3betting is also in obvious option.I agree about flatting the turn. No reason to blow him off a worse hand, and it just puts us in a tough spot when we get 3bet. I don't think raising is horribad, but I'd need a pretty good reason/read to do so.

[Nashtak 0]

cash is just kinda tough in general...far fewer fishimo deep nitring is where it's at.

Would i be wrong if i assumed that term means Deep-stack TAG play, with emphasis on the T?

[XXEddie 0]

v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersBB AznAnim8: $5.21 UTG IAHawx985: $4.00 UTG+1 TranceGhost: $16.61 MP kaczusia1: $17.73 MP2 chaupis: $9.85 HJ Ch1pr8der: $10.00 CO jaeyole: $10.00 Button Idontgotaname: $11.50 SB Hero: $29.20 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (9 players)2 folds, kaczusia1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, Idontgotaname raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.20, 2 folds, Idontgotaname raises to $4.00, Hero calls $2.80Flop: ($8.20) : : : (2 players)Villain is an unkown.ZOMG MISCLICK! Totally had every intention of just shipping pre. I hesistated for a few seconds but had the bar drag to arrrin, then somehow clicked the call button instead. Do we just lead here giving villain a chance to ship it in with AK type hands, are just lead into him. We're both <1 PSB deep.

[XXEddie 0]

A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handHEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersBB Tajarib: $11.10 UTG Mick-chipO: $9.05 UTG+1 Stebelek: $7.19 MP TrabantPL: $9.19 MP2 Hetrik: $21.71 HJ Hero: $20.07 CO AverkinIgor: $15.99 Button Phoenix11-11: $10.35 SB jwkels: $10.67 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is HJ with (9 players)2 folds, TrabantPL raises to $0.20, Hetrik folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, jwkels calls $0.15, Tajarib foldsFlop: ($0.70) (3 players)jwkels checks, TrabantPL checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.70) (3 players)jwkels checks, TrabantPL checks, Hero bets $0.30, jwkels raises to $0.95, TrabantPL folds, Hero calls $0.65River: ($2.60) (2 players)jwkels bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75Villain is 20/10 through like 20. Nothing really made sense other than like KT. That's a semi-dangerous board to be checking 44/AQ twice. I thought maybe he was turning Ax into a bluff putting me on a similar hand. Was just kind of lost all around.

[KingJames 11]

binkout side of this, i had a trrbl session tho.dude was 52/33 with a 42% 3b over 50 handsYour converted hand, now with more cowbell.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB W35N3R: $14.24 BB piiri22: $179.50 UTG Hero: $44.80 UTG+1 aka sammut: $34.82 CO bitbytare: $13.69 Button entony84: $32.43 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, aka sammut folds, bitbytare calls $0.75, 2 folds, piiri22 raises to $3.10, Hero raises to $7.50, bitbytare folds, piiri22 raises to $179.50, and is all in, Hero calls $37.30, and is all inFlop: ($90.70) (2 players)Turn: ($90.70) (2 players)River: ($90.70) (2 players)piiri22 showed , and lost with a pair of SevensHero showed , and won ($87.45) with two pair, Jacks and SevensHero won $87.45(Rake: $3)

[KingJames 11]

he left or we would have played a $170 pot

[KingJames 11]

Originally opener was kind of nitty, and we haz position so I chose to not cold-4CO is 39/17 and this is his first 3b over like 40 handsotf, should we just jam to fold our over cards, i mean, if we flat, we can't fold the turn (even an A or K) based on the pot being like $17 and having $7 left right? Just stick it in on flop??Cows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB: $5.60 UTG: $45.21 UTG+1: $25.00 CO: $15.14 Button: $22.77 (Hero)SB: $25.31 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $1, CO raises to $2.50, Hero calls $2.50, 3 foldsFlop: ($6.35) (2 players)CO bets $5, Hero???

[dlingdling 0]

binkout side of this, i had a trrbl session tho.dude was 52/33 with a 42% 3b over 50 handsYour converted hand, now with more cowbell.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersSB W35N3R: $14.24 BB piiri22: $179.50 UTG Hero: $44.80 UTG+1 aka sammut: $34.82 CO bitbytare: $13.69 Button entony84: $32.43 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is UTG with (6 players)Hero raises to $0.75, aka sammut folds, bitbytare calls $0.75, 2 folds, piiri22 raises to $3.10, Hero raises to $7.50, bitbytare folds, piiri22 raises to $179.50, and is all in, Hero calls $37.30, and is all inFlop: ($90.70) (2 players)Turn: ($90.70) (2 players)River: ($90.70) (2 players)piiri22 showed , and lost with a pair of SevensHero showed , and won ($87.45) with two pair, Jacks and SevensHero won $87.45(Rake: $3)

sick hold

[KingJames 11]

sick hold

i never lose those

[dlingdling 0]

i never lose those

teach me?

[KingJames 11]

A pack of feral cows chewed their cuds for .0043 seconds to convert this handHEM/Full Tilt NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 9 playersBB Tajarib: $11.10 UTG Mick-chipO: $9.05 UTG+1 Stebelek: $7.19 MP TrabantPL: $9.19 MP2 Hetrik: $21.71 HJ Hero: $20.07 CO AverkinIgor: $15.99 Button Phoenix11-11: $10.35 SB jwkels: $10.67 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is HJ with (9 players)2 folds, TrabantPL raises to $0.20, Hetrik folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, jwkels calls $0.15, Tajarib foldsFlop: ($0.70) (3 players)jwkels checks, TrabantPL checks, Hero checksTurn: ($0.70) (3 players)jwkels checks, TrabantPL checks, Hero bets $0.30, jwkels raises to $0.95, TrabantPL folds, Hero calls $0.65River: ($2.60) (2 players)jwkels bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75Villain is 20/10 through like 20. Nothing really made sense other than like KT. That's a semi-dangerous board to be checking 44/AQ twice. I thought maybe he was turning Ax into a bluff putting me on a similar hand. Was just kind of lost all around.

I think I bet the flop when it's check to me most of the time. We can get value from worse, protect vs draws, and more clearly define their ranges.As played I bet the turn much larger, $0.60 likelyAnd yeah, I think you will see more slow played sets than you would think. These fish are tarp-eeeeeeeI think the river might be fold. The baluga theorum generally holds true... turn raises are scary

[KingJames 11]

teach me?

1. Quit SNGs and play cash games again2. Find huge fish with 700bbs who 5b jams 180bbs with A9o3. Cooler a reg to get deepish4. Get a premium hand 99+ AJ+ should do5. Get it in6. Say out loud, "Hold it!"7. Let the board run out without much of a seat8. profitI'm waitlisting a 100nl shallow game that he is in... likely won't play it, but he's an epic fish

[dlingdling 0]

1. Quit SNGs and play cash games again2. Find huge fish with 700bbs who 5b jams 180bbs with A9o3. Cooler a reg to get deepish4. Get a premium hand 99+ AJ+ should do5. Get it in6. Say out loud, "Hold it!"7. Let the board run out without much of a seat8. profitI'm waitlisting a 100nl shallow game that he is in... likely won't play it, but he's an epic fish

I don't know how to do Step 7Maybe Step 6 is key.Selling action at 100nl? Skype me.

[CobaltBlue 662]

Would i be wrong if i assumed that term means Deep-stack TAG play, with emphasis on the T?

nitring = full ringI tend to agree btw. I found that most of the decent LAG regs infest the 6-max games on Bodog, while I get to start some pretty fishy FR games.Also...guess who just hit his arbitrary BR to bump back up to 100nl Rush! Seriously...I've played like 31k hands already this month...most of that 50nl Rush. I've dropped my open down to 2.5x and just generally been playing pretty straight-forward. I'll still make a move here and there, but generally speaking, I've gotten away from being quite as LAG and mostly dropped the pre-flop wars. I'm calling a lot more frequently to see some flops. Seems to be working pretty well.

[trystero 0]

what's your winrate at that Cobalt?

[CobaltBlue 662]

what's your winrate at that Cobalt?

At which? FR 50nl Rush? 5bb/100 over 340k hands.

[QED 4]

Did you use the new custom buttons on ftp for getting the 2.5x open?

[trystero 0]

5 at Rush, nicely done

[SuperJon 175]

At which? FR 50nl Rush? 5bb/100 over 340k hands.

Yeah, but 340k hands at Rush. That's like, what, a few hours worth of playing??