fighter 4 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'll pitch KQo vs nitty utg open most of the timewe're gonna be dominated and oop. So we either have to try to get value oop or we just value towned... bad comboAs played I might foldhis flop check, turn raise and river bet looks like AK a lotttttttIn game I call and sigh, and then remind myself why folding KQ vs an utg raise oop is goodYeah This flop gets cbet by all the hands that miss since his raising range hits that flop better then your defending range. So for him to check the flop he probably has a pocket pair. So when he raises the turn I think he has 55 a large amount. How about this for an idea, if we were villain in this hand we check back the flop with hands that miss a % of the time with the intention of raising the turn bets since it looks so strong and the average regs calling range from the BB completely airballs this flop compared to us. Like an inducing bet only we are checking ? Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 How about this for an idea, if we were villain in this hand we check back the flop with hands that miss a % of the time with the intention of raising the turn bets since it looks so strong and the average regs calling range from the BB completely airballs this flop compared to us. Like an inducing bet only we are checking ?Possibly true. Have to be careful though, because sometimes a 'villain' decides to defend with KQ..... But yes, I think there are a lot of ways to exploit the pf calling ranges of regs because they're so predictable Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 How about this for an idea, if we were villain in this hand we check back the flop with hands that miss a % of the time with the intention of raising the turn bets since it looks so strong and the average regs calling range from the BB completely airballs this flop compared to us. Like an inducing bet only we are checking ?I've actually started doing that a little bit this month, and it works really well against players that don't fold to Cbets often. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Wait, James isn't Smash? Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersBB Hero: $25.00 UTG KayaRock: $22.34 UTG+1 bobbysanchez555: $6.99 CO Tulussa432: $25.00 Button WightShark: $25.00 SB GGTASE: $31.14 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with (6 players)KayaRock raises to $1.10, bobbysanchez555 calls $1.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $25, and is all in, KayaRock calls $21.24, and is all in, bobbysanchez555 foldsFlop: ($45.88) (2 players)Turn: ($45.88) (2 players)River: ($45.88) (2 players)Hero showed , and won ($43.83) with three of a kind, AcesKayaRock showed , and lost with a pair of JacksHero won $43.83(Rake: $2.30) Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 you were in such trouble on that flop btw Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 that was september 4th... i did it twice in about 20 hands bc I was on tiltslammed AA into JJ and then KK a few minutes later... win almost 2bi and tilt is gone... hmmmmmmmm Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 Tough times never last, but tough people do. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 11, 2011 Share Posted January 11, 2011 false Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Share Posted January 11, 2011 falseno you Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 back on the HEM wagon 7-8 tabling.a lot easier to play poker because nits are readily identifiable, and that's like 9/10ths of the battle. only problem is that my computer's so slow that it takes forever to get a session going.made one bad call, KQ raised against a fishy player, flop KJx dd, bet/minraise/call, turn the Kd (ofc) and he bets half pot, I call, turn a blank he shoves for $8 into $11. I'm probably down like 15 BIs on KQ alone due to making trips. Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I hate playing maniacs..... this guy is such a drooler, 60/50 fold to 3bet is 0%.This converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG: $53.10 UTG+1: $18.65 CO: $78.60 Button: $50.00 (Hero)SB: $60.25 BB: $50.00 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, CO calls $2.50Flop: ($7.75) (2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO calls $5Turn: ($17.75) (2 players)CO checks, Hero checksRiver: ($17.75) (2 players)CO bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50CO showed , and won ($34.95) with a flush, Ace highHero mucked :ahCO won $34.95(Rake: $1.80) Link to post Share on other sites
Solar 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 f this game500 hand session ends when one guy joins the table and 3-bets from the button 5 orbits in a row. The last two I have AK and AQ, he has JJ and AA. mbfn Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I hate playing maniacs..... this guy is such a drooler, 60/50 fold to 3bet is 0%.This converter is going to be a cash cow...Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.25/$0.50 - 6 playersUTG: $53.10 UTG+1: $18.65 CO: $78.60 Button: $50.00 (Hero)SB: $60.25 BB: $50.00 Preflop: ($0.75) Hero is Button with (6 players)UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, CO raises to $1, Hero raises to $3.50, 2 folds, CO calls $2.50Flop: ($7.75) (2 players)CO checks, Hero bets $5, CO calls $5Turn: ($17.75) (2 players)CO checks, Hero checksRiver: ($17.75) (2 players)CO bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50CO showed , and won ($34.95) with a flush, Ace highHero mucked :ahCO won $34.95(Rake: $1.80)be glad you didn't get hit with the JJ3 board Link to post Share on other sites
nutzzcase 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 im so awful lolFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 ante $0.02 - 3 playersSB: $9.88 (Hero)BB: $12.11 Button: $13.90 Preflop: ($0.21) Hero is SB with (3 players)Button folds, Hero raises to $0.30, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.66) (2 players)Hero bets $0.50, BB raises to $1.60, Hero calls $1.10Turn: ($3.86) (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10River: ($8.06) (2 players)Hero checks, BB bets $4.10, Hero calls $4.10Hero mucked BB showed , and won ($15.26) with a flush, Jack highBB won $15.26(Rake: $1) Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 I've made my share of those calls Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 I've made my share of those callsfold preflop unless villain has a high (>70% or so) fold to steal and high fold to cbetimo Link to post Share on other sites
nutzzcase 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 fold preflop unless villain has a high (>70% or so) fold to steal and high fold to cbetimothis number doesn't need to be that high since there are antes.(haven't done the math tho.) Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 this number doesn't need to be that high since there are antes.(haven't done the math tho.)well if there are antes than you need to raise larger likely also. 3x means he only needs to call 20c into 46c and he's getting over 2-1 and will be in position... and you have 9292 oop giving a guy great odds isn't gonna be very profitable imo Link to post Share on other sites
KosinTrouble 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 If its ante's wouldnt it be better to just 3bet then that just flat? Given its bvb, he is going to be opening pretty much his button range. But I dont know ante games that well. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 fold preflop unless villain has a high (>70% or so) fold to steal and high fold to cbetimooh I agree, just sympathizing w/him Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 oh I agree, just sympathizing w/himyeah, i dunno why i quoted your post... Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 One of the things I've been messing around with this month is bvb play.I heard somewhere that at these stakes, it can be profitable to raise the majority of your SB when it's folded to you, and then if you're called just play fit or fold. It seems passive at first, but the majority of your value is coming from all the times the BB folds since most players won't defend their BB as often as they should when the SB open raises.I've only got 123 hands so far this month in these spots, but I'm up almost 4 BI's. Ran good in some spots, but not losing anything major in the pots I don't win. Those little pots you win when they fold pre do add up over time. Link to post Share on other sites
dlingdling 0 Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 One of the things I've been messing around with this month is bvb play.I heard somewhere that at these stakes, it can be profitable to raise the majority of your SB when it's folded to you, and then if you're called just play fit or fold. It seems passive at first, but the majority of your value is coming from all the times the BB folds since most players won't defend their BB as often as they should when the SB open raises.I've only got 123 hands so far this month in these spots, but I'm up almost 4 BI's. Ran good in some spots, but not losing anything major in the pots I don't win. Those little pots you win when they fold pre do add up over time.People fold to you BvB? Strange world you live in. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 nbd, just a little value raise... checked turn to induce river bluff which I snap obv... thought about value betting river alsoCows play poker with cow chipsFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $26.00 CO: $25.00 Button: $26.52 (Hero)SB: $32.65 BB: $36.17 UTG: $25.00 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is Button with (6 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, SB folds, BB calls $0.35Flop: ($1.30) (2 players)BB bets $0.50, Hero raises to $1.60, BB calls $1.10Turn: ($4.50) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksRiver: ($4.50) (2 players)BB checks, Hero checksHero showed , and won ($4.28) with a pair of QueensBB mucked Hero won $4.28(Rake: $0.22) Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted January 13, 2011 Author Share Posted January 13, 2011 nit-rolled in the neg-0o0o0ozzzzzzzzzzdonkaments Link to post Share on other sites
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