Nashtak 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Should bluffing, or semi-bluffing if you want, change the amount of a c-bet to reduce the risk, or should it be just as hard as if I actually did have something?Converting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersButton: $1.87 SB: $1.01 BB: $1.60 (Hero)UTG: $2.61 UTG+1: $3.79 CO: $3.46 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.08, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.18, CO foldsFlop: ($0.51) (2 players)Hero bets $0.18.I raise more preflop and i don't increase the pot size with bets that are gonna get called by ATC 95% of the time when i hold A high. It's a good spot to c-bet but it's gotta be at least $0.30, likely more.God, just went all in with pocket aces and freaking lost to trip 6. I went .12 raise preflop and he still stuck it. I wanna make out with low stakes so much. FYP Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 The thing is you won't become a better player at 2nl. Chances are you'll crush those games because they're so soft. You won't be learning anything new. If you had bad habits and leaks, which you do because all of us do, then you'll maintain those leaks as you move up in limits. It's also very boring to go start from absolute rock bottom. With $100 it'll take you a long time (in terms of volume) to move up properly. You'll flame out.If you're able to play $200nl live, then your poker bankroll should be able to handle a $400 deposit (unless you're just playing it sparingly because casinos don't offer anything lower, and you have no other options), and you should start in 10nl. imoOk, so here's what I did, I had deposited 100 bucks earlier like I said, and I "sort of" took your advice. My plan was to try to run it up as quick as possible, and if i went broke, reload 400 dollars. So, the first thing I did was sit down at 1/2 with 100, and luckily ran that up quickly to about 450.Now, I can safely play .05/.10 which is a good level for me to be at, I think. I plan on staying at that level till I reach 800 or so. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 So I totally ignored bankroll management and decided to play the lottery. Now I plan to sort of grind 10NL until I see normal downswing variance, get frustrated, swear online poker is rigged, and sit down at 2/4 shortstacked and piss away my bankrollFYP:) Link to post Share on other sites
BaseJester 1 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I have to say that I've never practiced low-stakes bankroll management anywhere near as conservative as I keep hearing. 5 buy-ins or so with a willingness to move down has worked OK for me. Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Most boring hour of poker. Even when I had something, no one wanted to give me their money. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 I can't win as a 19:1 fav today Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 A good feeling: Getting pocket aces with everyone folding. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Sigh, fellas Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Another LOLive hand: .1/.25 6 handed, 200bb effective (I have him covered)Hero is UTG with T T :heart:Hero raises to $1, 1 fold, co calls, 2 folds, bb callsFlop ($3.10): 9 4 4 :spade:bb checks, Hero bets $2.25, co raises to $8, bb folds, Hero???co plays a fairly wide range of hands in position. He flopped two pair with 32 and boated the river vs QQ 3-4 orbits prior.After tanking for 2 minutes he asked if I had 72 and sat back looking uninterested. I had cut out a raise to $19.75 at that point. Sexy $29 turn shoves ftw...Thoughts?His value range imo is like A4, 54, 34 and 99, but sometimes ppl do weird things on paired boards bc they think you have AK...Yo, someone give me something about this hand. Link to post Share on other sites
Nashtak 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 A good feeling: Getting pocket aces with everyone folding.That most happens like 6 times a day, easilyYo, someone give me something about this hand.I hate those spots. Link to post Share on other sites
Syntonic 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Yo, someone give me something about this hand.I think this is a pretty straight forward raise, with intention of getting it in. Do you think he would raise a 4 here? Many (and I think him) would just call with a 4.Think of the alternative: if you call, what will you do on the turn? If a K hits, do you b/f? I think if you have a really good read on this guy, you could probably just call here, putting him on J9, 98, A9, etc.Do you think this guy is capable of calling off his stack with A9 or Q9 on this board? He could also have an underpair, but I think it's less likely because he's raising you in position. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 I think this is a pretty straight forward raise, with intention of getting it in. Do you think he would raise a 4 here? Many (and I think him) would just call with a 4.Think of the alternative: if you call, what will you do on the turn? If a K hits, do you b/f? I think if you have a really good read on this guy, you could probably just call here, putting him on J9, 98, A9, etc.Do you think this guy is capable of calling off his stack with A9 or Q9 on this board? He could also have an underpair, but I think it's less likely because he's raising you in position.I had no intention to call. I thought I'd raise/call it off or raise and shove the turn.I also thought about folding Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 16, 2010 Author Share Posted March 16, 2010 Just to add, I think by calling oop we are gonna get crushed. So many terrible cards on the turn.Also, if he has A9 or 98 or whatev, he won't put any more money in unimproved. Link to post Share on other sites
Syntonic 0 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Yeah you're probably right. Just raise and own. Link to post Share on other sites
fighter 4 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I had no intention to call. I thought I'd raise/call it off or raise and shove the turn.I also thought about foldingAgainst certain people I like calling more then the other options. It keeps their bluff range wide and makes us look weak. If we think they have a wide bluff range on this flop, then the overcards on the turn don't become scare cards but favourable, since he will continue to bet with his bluffs more often the his value hands. Like if the turn comes an K, if he raised A9 , and doesnt bet this turn, then his value range is hands containing over cards he bluff raised with and 4's. I don't like raise/calling it off since you beat nothing except overplayed A9 and he will have alot of 4's in his range since he flats raises with 23 previously. I would rate the actions, Fold > call >>> raise. Link to post Share on other sites
jmbreslin 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I hate shorties...but sometimes I love the fact that they're short.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP2 ($1.66)MP3 ($5.92)CO ($7.95)Button ($2.75)SB ($9.83)BB ($10.06)UTG ($10.12)Hero (UTG+1) ($10)MP1 ($10)Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with A, A1 fold, Hero bets $0.40, 4 folds, Button calls $0.40, 2 foldsFlop: ($0.95) 4, 9, 5(2 players)Hero bets $0.70, Button raises to $2.35 (All-In), Hero calls $1.65Turn: ($5.65) K(2 players, 1 all-in)River: ($5.65) 6(2 players, 1 all-in)Total pot: $5.65 | Rake: $0.37Results:Button had 6, 6 (three of a kind, sixes).Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).Outcome: Button won $5.28 Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 No real reads on villain despite playing 300 hands with him.He was 24/7 and has folded to 8/11 3 bets.I have to assume his range from UTG is fairly strong, but with a high fold to 3 bet and some donk who flatted, a 3 bet seemed right especially w/AK.The real question is the flop play. Is it okay to c-bet this flop, or does it hit his range pretty hard.Stars[/url] Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($10.35)Hero (BB) ($5.87)UTG ($5.22)MP ($13.49)Button ($4.26)Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K UTG bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, UTG calls $0.40, 1 foldFlop: ($1.27) 7 , Q , 9 (2 players)Hero bets $0.75 Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Another good feeling: Getting pocket aces first hand at a table, and taking out the only other person there. Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Probably shouldn't have even bet. This guy was really aggressive, almost raising hard every chance he got.I've noticed that playing the blinds, I've lost more money than the money I've made with the other positions. Milked from the teat of a feral cowPokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 9 playersBB: $2.12 (Hero)UTG: $2.18 UTG+1: $2.94 MP: $0.94 MP2: $2.99 HJ: $0.78 CO: $5.49 Button: $2.60 SB: $3.06 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (9 players)7 folds, SB calls $0.01, Hero checksFlop: ($0.04) (2 players)SB bets $0.02, Hero raises to $0.06, SB raises to $0.20, Hero ? Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 No real reads on villain despite playing 300 hands with him.He was 24/7 and has folded to 8/11 3 bets.I have to assume his range from UTG is fairly strong, but with a high fold to 3 bet and some donk who flatted, a 3 bet seemed right especially w/AK.The real question is the flop play. Is it okay to c-bet this flop, or does it hit his range pretty hard.Stars[/url] Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comSB ($10.35)Hero (BB) ($5.87)UTG ($5.22)MP ($13.49)Button ($4.26)Preflop: Hero is BB with A , K UTG bets $0.15, MP calls $0.15, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.55, UTG calls $0.40, 1 foldFlop: ($1.27) 7 , Q , 9 (2 players)Hero bets $0.75 I'd raise a little more preflop, Jon. .70-.80 Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 I agree with James there, and I think either cbetting or c/folding is fine :)I played a bit with Giggy today, 4bet him with KJ. I felt pretty sexy Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 I agree with James there, and I think either cbetting or c/folding is fine :)I played a bit with Giggy today, 4bet him with KJ. I felt pretty sexyWitnessedKJ is teh nutsMarch: 8k hands, +$0.88[x] rakeback[x] 2 weeks of march still[x] doubt I don't upswong Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Should I raise bigger in these situations? Having premium UTG?Converting hands till the cows come homePokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 5 playersBB: $1.11 UTG: $2.17 (Hero)CO: $0.84 Button: $2.25 SB: $1.22 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is UTG with (5 players)Hero raises to $0.08, CO folds, Button calls $0.08, SB folds, BB calls $0.06Flop: ($0.25) (3 players)BB checks, Hero bets $0.08, Button calls $0.08, BB foldsTurn: ($0.41) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20 Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 17, 2010 Author Share Posted March 17, 2010 bet .20 on the flop Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 17, 2010 Share Posted March 17, 2010 Against certain people I like calling more then the other options. It keeps their bluff range wide and makes us look weak. If we think they have a wide bluff range on this flop, then the overcards on the turn don't become scare cards but favourable, since he will continue to bet with his bluffs more often the his value hands. Like if the turn comes an K, if he raised A9 , and doesnt bet this turn, then his value range is hands containing over cards he bluff raised with and 4's. I don't like raise/calling it off since you beat nothing except overplayed A9 and he will have alot of 4's in his range since he flats raises with 23 previously. I would rate the actions, Fold > call >>> raise.this guy Link to post Share on other sites
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