KosinTrouble 0 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Ok day for me, up $7 over 500 hands though... had 2 really bad beats with runner runner... On the plus side, as long as I dont screw up, I should break the $200 mark in my bankroll this week and move up a new level.Kosin Trouble Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Yeah tourney day left the cash tables tough... doesn't help when you flop the nuts, get it shipped, and get boated on... rinse, repeatdecent start on the ftops deep stack.... THAT 88k is MINE gogogoogogogoogogoggoedt: lots of fish at the opening table... and one of the nits I regularly life own at 6max Link to post Share on other sites
Nashtak 0 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Re:22I think between the fact that the villain is a huge loser and the fact that he min-raised from up front, it's a call. I think he'll have AK AQ AJ and some rando flushes enough to stack off there profitably.Also, his ptr for 2/4 and 3/6 6max (only 3500 hands or so) has him at being 50% and 67% more aggressive than optimal on the river. SUNDAY SUNDAY SUNDAY, let's gooooooo!GL if you play donkaments, I might try to win a jersey in the KO... other than that, let's win some stacks at cashJersey? Where? I want a jersey. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Jersey? Where? I want a jersey.What kind, where from, and how much will u pay? Link to post Share on other sites
babylondonks 5 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 You're right, this guy never spazzes out and always raises with the best hand.Oh wow dude you are so clever, you must win this round...oh waitDoes he tell you what he puts him on? Seriously, this seems like such a snap call against this guy. I would only consider folding this against the nittiest player in the world. Even then, it's close. Still...maybe you enjoy falling from up on your high horse Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 So gross today.Got completely run over on almost every table. Some coolers here and there, like flopped set into flopped flush and no suck out, JJ<99, etc. Of course, I don't think I played very well either, so I'll blame myself for some of the losses as well.Dropping back down to 5NL and I don't plan on completely moving to 10NL until 25 buy-ins. I just don't think I was ever really playing my game at 10NL during the 3,137 hands I played this month. Which I'm sure is because I wasn't fully rolled. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 Which I'm sure is because I wasn't fully rolledThat's a good guess Jon. If you don't run well at a higher limit it's very easy to clam up and play scared. Yeah tourney day left the cash tables tough... doesn't help when you flop the nuts, get it shipped, and get boated on... rinse, repeatdecent start on the ftops deep stack.... THAT 88k is MINE gogogoogogogoogogoggoGL dude. Remember that I've got 30% of you. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 so I sit to rail Ninja and the first hand AK < A6 std Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 so I sit to rail Ninja and the first hand AK < A6 stdI kind of just blew up after that one... one retarded 4bet bluff and an even more retarded hero call with no reads Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted March 14, 2010 Share Posted March 14, 2010 I have used this thread as motivation to try and take online poker seriously again. I am able to beat my 1/2 live game, but it's more than an hour away. I would get crushed if I try to play 1/2 NL online so n the meantime, I will start out at 2nl and try to take it as seriously as possible as I try to move up. I deposited 100 dollars and will move up to 10nl when i have 30 BI's.....or $300. Wish me luck! Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thoughts on this one? How should I play if I flop a straight like this, in the BB?Moooooooooooraaawwwr.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersCO: $4.54 Button: $1.92 SB: $2.57 BB: $1.00 (Hero)UTG: $2.66 UTG+1: $0.90 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO folds, 2 folds, Hero checksFlop: ($0.07) (3 players)Hero bets $0.04, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.08Turn: ($0.47) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20River: ($0.87) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 raises to $0.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.28 Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I kind of just blew up after that one... one retarded 4bet bluff and an even more retarded hero call with no readsI stayed long enough to see the A9 shove:all sorts of perplexed:Hartman I don't recommend that. I think it's cool that you realize 200nl is a lot tougher to beat online than live, and you know that you have to move down online to compensate. However you're going to suffer from extreme boredom trying to grind out 2nl; the stakes will just be too small for you. I'd suggest 10nl at the least, possibly 25nl if you feel reasonably confident in your game. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thoughts on this one? How should I play if I flop a straight like this, in the BB?Moooooooooooraaawwwr.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersCO: $4.54 Button: $1.92 SB: $2.57 BB: $1.00 (Hero)UTG: $2.66 UTG+1: $0.90 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO folds, 2 folds, Hero checksFlop: ($0.07) (3 players)Hero bets $0.04, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.08Turn: ($0.47) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20River: ($0.87) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 raises to $0.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.28 You have the right idea on the flop. Bet and then raise. However, your raise sizing needs work. After he raises you, you should bump it up something large - certainly not a minraise. Make it like 0.36 and then shove the turn. When donks show interest in a hand, they're probably not going to fold, so you should punish them to the best you can. Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thoughts on this one? How should I play if I flop a straight like this, in the BB?Moooooooooooraaawwwr.PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em $0.01/$0.02 - 6 playersCO: $4.54 Button: $1.92 SB: $2.57 BB: $1.00 (Hero)UTG: $2.66 UTG+1: $0.90 Preflop: ($0.03) Hero is BB with (6 players)UTG calls $0.02, UTG+1 calls $0.02, CO folds, 2 folds, Hero checksFlop: ($0.07) (3 players)Hero bets $0.04, UTG folds, UTG+1 raises to $0.12, Hero raises to $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.08Turn: ($0.47) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 calls $0.20River: ($0.87) (2 players)Hero bets $0.20, UTG+1 raises to $0.48 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.28 1. Do you normally buy in short? If not, make sure you have a full stack so you get max value when you get stacks in, although here it doesn't really matter since villain is a shorty.2. Flop is good, but when you 4bet, it needs to be bigger. 3. Bet bigger on the turn and the river.All the money should've been in on the turn if not the flop. Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Yeah, raise the flop to .30, shove the turn, ez game+++++++++++++++++++++STUPIDHEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 So gross today.Got completely run over on almost every table. Some coolers here and there, like flopped set into flopped flush and no suck out, JJ<99, etc. Of course, I don't think I played very well either, so I'll blame myself for some of the losses as well.Dropping back down to 5NL and I don't plan on completely moving to 10NL until 25 buy-ins. I just don't think I was ever really playing my game at 10NL during the 3,137 hands I played this month. Which I'm sure is because I wasn't fully rolled.GL crushing 5nl again. Def wait til you're rolled properly.Like I was gonna move up to 25nl at 25 buy-ins, but I'm still playing 10nl bc of how crushed I got at 25nl last time. So if I have a bigger bankroll and continue to work on my game, only good things can happen.+++++++Syntonic, Babs, play nice! Link to post Share on other sites
Manign 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I usually only put one buck on. Makes me play a bit tighter.I think I should bet more aggressively. I should've made that guy fold before he hit his boat. I don't know if he would've folded anyway. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 You don't want him to fold - you want him to put his money in such horrendous shape. Link to post Share on other sites
hartman72 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I stayed long enough to see the A9 shove:all sorts of perplexed:Hartman I don't recommend that. I think it's cool that you realize 200nl is a lot tougher to beat online than live, and you know that you have to move down online to compensate. However you're going to suffer from extreme boredom trying to grind out 2nl; the stakes will just be too small for you. I'd suggest 10nl at the least, possibly 25nl if you feel reasonably confident in your game. To be honest, you are exactly right. However, ANY level below 1/2 will be too small for me. I am going to just try to ignore the stakes, and try to become a better player. I think it would be awesome to actually start at 2nl and work all the way up to 1/2 using proper br practices. I had a discussion with King James about small stakes....I'm just going to try to take it seriously. Link to post Share on other sites
trystero 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 The thing is you won't become a better player at 2nl. Chances are you'll crush those games because they're so soft. You won't be learning anything new. If you had bad habits and leaks, which you do because all of us do, then you'll maintain those leaks as you move up in limits. It's also very boring to go start from absolute rock bottom. With $100 it'll take you a long time (in terms of volume) to move up properly. You'll flame out.If you're able to play $200nl live, then your poker bankroll should be able to handle a $400 deposit (unless you're just playing it sparingly because casinos don't offer anything lower, and you have no other options), and you should start in 10nl. imo Link to post Share on other sites
SuperJon 175 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 GL crushing 5nl again. Def wait til you're rolled properly.Like I was gonna move up to 25nl at 25 buy-ins, but I'm still playing 10nl bc of how crushed I got at 25nl last time. So if I have a bigger bankroll and continue to work on my game, only good things can happen.+++++++Syntonic, Babs, place nice!Thanks bud. Playing my last donkament of the weekend, in the money and in good shape. If I do well, maybe I won't have to wait so long Link to post Share on other sites
KingJames 11 Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Thanks bud. Playing my last donkament of the weekend, in the money and in good shape. If I do well, maybe I won't have to wait so long GL, TID! Link to post Share on other sites
Nashtak 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Oh wow dude you are so clever, you must win this round...oh waitStill...maybe you enjoy falling from up on your high horseI want to grow up to be just like you. Link to post Share on other sites
Ninja Ace 1 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I stayed long enough to see the A9 shoveIt was semi-tilted... but it's not a horrific playI had seen him resteal b4 (or what I thought were resteals)The move is powerful enough where I only get called by AA/KK especially with the shorty halfway in bc it looks like it can never be a bluff... my had has great equity against the shorties range as well bc i was expecting him to callI card remove an ace... I have 30% equity against KK... he just so happened to show up with aces that time and I look like a total retard. I was shooting for a final table or nothing basically... the small cashes meant nothing to me Link to post Share on other sites
Syntonic 0 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Oh wow dude you are so clever, you must win this round...oh waitStill...maybe you enjoy falling from up on your high horseWhat are you talking about? My high horse? I'm simply stating that this guy is a maniac and I think it's a huge mistake to just brush this off as a trivial fold because you get raised on the river.BIGTYM3R_713 is looser than 97.6% of the population at $5/$10 NL Hold'em (2 max). BIGTYM3R_713 is the red dot on the Preflop Looseness Bell Curve.BIGTYM3R_713 is more aggressive than 98.9% of the population at $5/$10 NL Hold'em (2 max). The right side of the curve is more aggressive, the left side is more passive.I have never played against this guy, obviously, so the only things I can go off are his bet sizing and his history of play. Yeah, obviously he can have a better full house here, but statistically, this guy is maniacal and historically he plays crazy.I want to hear your argument for why this is a fold, because it is not obvious to me. Link to post Share on other sites
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