New Challenge: Movin' On Up

[Nashtak 0]

Nice life

fu, i'm still running like thrash.

[babylondonks 5]

gg this thread

[KingJames 11]

gg this thread

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[Nashtak 0]

Did i do it?

[babylondonks 5]

Can't we all just sit in a circle sipping herbal teas?

[trystero 0]

kinda weird spot, wasn't sure what amount to raiseFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comHero (BB) ($10)UTG ($3.85)MP ($10)CO ($10)Button ($20.48)SB ($10)Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 , 9 1 fold, MP bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30Flop: ($1.25) 9 , 10 , 5 (3 players)Hero checks, MP bets $0.80, CO raises to $1.60, Hero raises to $3.80, 1 fold, CO calls $2.20Turn: ($9.65) 8 (2 players)Hero bets $5.80 (All-In), CO calls $5.80 (All-In)River: ($21.25) A (2 players, 2 all-in)Total pot: $21.25 | Rake: $1.41Results:Hero had 9 , 9 (three of a kind, nines).CO had J , 10 (one pair, tens).Outcome: Hero won $19.84

[jmbreslin 0]

Another Rush hand. Good flop, but not sure the best way to play it out. I'm open to criticism on all streets.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comCO ($8.24)Button ($15.10)SB ($4.90)Hero (BB) ($10.73)UTG ($12.34)UTG+1 ($21.03)MP1 ($12.41)MP2 ($9.80)MP3 ($24.58)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, CO bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10Flop: ($1) A, 4, K(5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.80, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.30Turn: ($4.60) 10(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40River: ($7.40) 5(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $3, Hero foldsTotal pot: $7.40 | Rake: $0.49

[trystero 0]

I just take the nice odds and call the flop. It's not like I fault a raise, but in position I'd rather do that, because we can control the pot size more effectively since he'll check to us a lot, and of course we never mind getting it in on this board so if he does 3-bet we just jammo.

[BaseJester 1]

Another Rush hand. Good flop, but not sure the best way to play it out. I'm open to criticism on all streets.Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (9 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comCO ($8.24)Button ($15.10)SB ($4.90)Hero (BB) ($10.73)UTG ($12.34)UTG+1 ($21.03)MP1 ($12.41)MP2 ($9.80)MP3 ($24.58)Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, K1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10, 2 folds, CO bets $0.20, 1 fold, SB calls $0.15, Hero calls $0.10, UTG+1 calls $0.10, MP1 calls $0.10Flop: ($1) A, 4, K(5 players)SB checks, Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, MP1 bets $0.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.80, 1 fold, MP1 calls $1.30Turn: ($4.60) 10(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.40, Hero calls $1.40River: ($7.40) 5(2 players)Hero checks, MP1 bets $3, Hero foldsTotal pot: $7.40 | Rake: $0.49

I don't think this line represents anything sensible to the villain. Your raise on the flop is small enough that you can expect him to call with most of his range. When you check/call the turn, the gig is up: you're on a draw. If you're going to use the pair as part of the justification for raising the flop for value, then we can't check/fold the river.

[jmbreslin 0]

Hell, I'm getting slaughtered tonight.Stacked off on turn with a set, villain has a gutter+FD and rivers the straight.Lost 2/3 of stack w/ KK overpair to a villain who called my raise w/ 96o, called my pot CB with a pair of 9's, and turned 2P.Lost another 1/3 stack when I got shortie AIPF w/ KK against his AQ and he flopped an Ace.Sorry, just venting. Every time it seems like I'm starting to make progress in my results, I have a session like this that erases most of my progress. Maybe I'm just destined to be Even Steven.

[trystero 0]

Lost 2/3 of stack w/ KK overpair to a villain who called my raise w/ 96o, called my pot CB with a pair of 9's, and turned 2P.

A real man loses it all.**unless villain was short.

[jmbreslin 0]

As for the hand I posted, I struggle with my judgment regarding when have enough equity that I should try to get it in on the flop or turn (and how) and when I shouldn't. I think I was prepared to get it in on the flop but when he flat called I figured I might be able to get a free card OOP by checking the turn. Then he gave me nice odds to call with his bet, so I just decided to call with all my outs (now any club plus Jacks).Would it be nuts to push the turn with my increased equity? I'm assuming villain is on a decent Ace, though a set of 4's is certainly possible.

[jmbreslin 0]

A real man loses it all.**unless villain was short.

LOL, yes villain was short. I suppose I should thank the poker gods for not making all 3 opponents full stacked...

[trystero 0]

As for the hand I posted, I struggle with my judgment regarding when have enough equity that I should try to get it in on the flop or turn (and how) and when I shouldn't. I think I was prepared to get it in on the flop but when he flat called I figured I might be able to get a free card OOP by checking the turn. Then he gave me nice odds to call with his bet, so I just decided to call with all my outs (now any club plus Jacks).Would it be nuts to push the turn with my increased equity? I'm assuming villain is on a decent Ace, though a set of 4's is certainly possible.

You can push the turn if you feel villain can fold a pair of aces. This is 10nl and it ain't happening. Against ace-rag you're in good shape, almost 40% equity, but against broadway aces, sets, and two pairs (imo AJ is more likely than like A6) you're not quite 30%. Once you check the turn it's fine I think to just call his bet and c/f UI on the river.

[jmbreslin 0]

At least my night finished on a positive note with 3 near double-throughs. Crazy game, this poker. I'm probably just not used to the swinginess since I typically play low volume and Rush basically crams several sessions into a single one.

[BaseJester 1]

As for the hand I posted, I struggle with my judgment regarding when have enough equity that I should try to get it in on the flop or turn (and how) and when I shouldn't. I think I was prepared to get it in on the flop but when he flat called I figured I might be able to get a free card OOP by checking the turn. Then he gave me nice odds to call with his bet, so I just decided to call with all my outs (now any club plus Jacks).Would it be nuts to push the turn with my increased equity? I'm assuming villain is on a decent Ace, though a set of 4's is certainly possible.

I'm a little afraid to even touch the topic of when to flat call with big draws, but this isn't one of them, imho. I think you need to keep betting on the turn to continue representing a hand as good as TPTK or better. A line that gets the money all in earlier to eliminates his positional advantage.

[KingJames 11]

New video of my sucking at poker. I don't recommend watching it http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GKDYPPOYBut if you do watch it, thoughts are appreciated.Yes I am a nit

[trystero 0]

At least my night finished on a positive note with 3 near double-throughs. Crazy game, this poker. I'm probably just not used to the swinginess since I typically play low volume and Rush basically crams several sessions into a single one.

Even against the donks of 10nl, poker remains swingy. You can't get around it. The best you can do is have a forward-thinking mindset, and that means doing your best to not worry about results (like, don't fuss over whether you're up or down in a particular session; get used to just logging volume for the sake of logging volume and doing your best to play well). Kind of hard to do at this limit I know because usually you're grinding to build a roll and to move on. It's not like you can comfort yourself with the thought that you'll be making good money once the runbad goes away.

[BaseJester 1]

Sorry, just venting. Every time it seems like I'm starting to make progress in my results, I have a session like this that erases most of my progress. Maybe I'm just destined to be Even Steven.

I returned, and saw under the sun, that the race is not to the swift, nor the battle to the strong, neither yet bread to the wise, nor yet riches to men of understanding, nor yet favour to men of skill; but time and chance happeneth to them all.

I'm an atheist, but I thought this might help.

[trystero 0]

New video of my sucking at poker. I don't recommend watching it http://www.megaupload.com/?d=GKDYPPOYBut if you do watch it, thoughts are appreciated.Yes I am a nit

1:10 folding 55 is fine imo but maybe someone could CRUNCH numberslots of std spots4:50 folding 66 is fine there, you have no equity when you're behind6:00 nh w/t9s9:00 you call that shit talk? pft.14:14 c/behind is OK17:30 j4s > 65o.18:00 22 hand obv fine22:00 kq fold is fine to an utg raise...hard to get value when ahead, easy to get owned when behind OOP25:00 not sure about 3betting ATs from bb...27:00 I sent the memo out, 3bet kj_kj28:30 good fold of 22 to a LP stealer29:40 can't see bet sizes, call w/j9s is of course fine

[Nashtak 0]

I don't think this line represents anything sensible to the villain. Your raise on the flop is small enough that you can expect him to call with most of his range. When you check/call the turn, the gig is up: you're on a draw. If you're going to use the pair as part of the justification for raising the flop for value, then we can't check/fold the river.

Can't the pair simply be considered as additional outs and not as a pair by itself? I mean, we know we are likely behind with a pair, but a king or a queen definitely add to our hand, so the outs increase the value of our hand greatly.

[KingJames 11]

1:10 folding 55 is fine imo but maybe someone could CRUNCH numberslots of std spots4:50 folding 66 is fine there, you have no equity when you're behind6:00 nh w/t9s9:00 you call that shit talk? pft.14:14 c/behind is OK17:30 j4s > 65o.18:00 22 hand obv fine22:00 kq fold is fine to an utg raise...hard to get value when ahead, easy to get owned when behind OOP25:00 not sure about 3betting ATs from bb...27:00 I sent the memo out, 3bet kj_kj28:30 good fold of 22 to a LP stealer29:40 can't see bet sizes, call w/j9s is of course fine

Thanks homie

[droberts 3]

some hands that i had tonight.v1.11Dont have a cow, heres your converted handHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersCO Prot LT: $18.90 Button Camelrooter: $11.70 SB lexx9000: $10.05 BB Hero: $10.25 UTG WengerASek: $3.40 UTG+1 hallen1991: $15.70 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with : : (6 players)WengerASek folds, hallen1991 calls $0.10, Prot LT folds, Camelrooter calls $0.10, lexx9000 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, hallen1991 folds, Camelrooter calls $0.40Flop: ($1.15) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.75, Camelrooter calls $0.75Turn: ($2.65) : (2 players)Hero bets $1.75, Camelrooter calls $1.75River: ($6.15) : (2 players)Hero bets $3.00, Camelrooter calls $3.00Hero showed : :, Camelrooter showed : :, Hero won $11.60v1.11Feral Cow PokerHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersCO Arnesto22: $14.95 Button joevideo: $9.75 SB Hero: $10.70 BB alurko_86: $18.95 UTG AndiKon: $4.05 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (5 players)AndiKon folds, Arnesto22 calls $0.10, joevideo raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, joevideo calls $0.80Flop: ($2.20) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $1.50, joevideo calls $1.50Turn: ($5.20) : (2 players)Hero bets $3.50, joevideo raises to $7.00, Hero raises to $8.20, joevideo calls $0.25River: ($19.70) : (2 players)Hero showed : :, joevideo showed : :, Hero won $18.75v1.11Feral Cow PokerHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG ~Migre~74: $13.95 UTG+1 floriluap: $4.20 CO pantam83: $4.40 Button Dim-ko M: $7.05 SB Hero: $13.15 BB A_P0KER_STAR: $0.85 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (6 players)2 folds, pantam83 calls $0.10, Dim-ko M folds, Hero raises to $0.40, A_P0KER_STAR folds, pantam83 calls $0.30Flop: ($0.90) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.60, pantam83 calls $0.60Turn: ($2.10) : (2 players)Hero checks, pantam83 bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, pantam83 calls $1.10River: ($5.10) : (2 players)Hero bets $2.00, pantam83 calls $1.90Hero showed : :, pantam83 showed : :, Hero won $8.50v1.11Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersUTG duiral: $1.85 CO gezAA29: $9.95 Button Dim-ko M: $8.95 SB Hero: $15.70 BB A_P0KER_STAR: $9.40 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (5 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, A_P0KER_STAR calls $0.20Flop: ($0.60) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.40, A_P0KER_STAR calls $0.40Turn: ($1.40) : (2 players)Hero checks, A_P0KER_STAR bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50River: ($2.40) : (2 players)Hero checks, A_P0KER_STAR bets $2.10, Hero raises to $14.50, A_P0KER_STAR foldsHero won $6.30v1.11Feral Cow PokerHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG rickylin1001: $10.25 UTG+1 koenman: $10.95 CO xtilted: $5.55 Button Tunesierin: $2.70 SB Hero: $11.60 BB Balabola: $5.40 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (6 players)3 folds, Tunesierin raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $3.00, Balabola folds, Tunesierin calls $1.90Flop: ($5.50) : : : (2 players)Turn: ($5.50) : (2 players)River: ($5.50) : (2 players)Hero showed : :, Tunesierin showed : :, Hero won $5.25EDIT: making a video would make this much easier.

[fighter 4]

some hands that i had tonight.v1.11Dont have a cow, heres your converted handHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersCO Prot LT: $18.90 Button Camelrooter: $11.70 SB lexx9000: $10.05 BB Hero: $10.25 UTG WengerASek: $3.40 UTG+1 hallen1991: $15.70 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with : : (6 players)WengerASek folds, hallen1991 calls $0.10, Prot LT folds, Camelrooter calls $0.10, lexx9000 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, hallen1991 folds, Camelrooter calls $0.40Flop: ($1.15) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.75, Camelrooter calls $0.75Turn: ($2.65) : (2 players)Hero bets $1.75, Camelrooter calls $1.75River: ($6.15) : (2 players)Hero bets $3.00, Camelrooter calls $3.00Hero showed : :, Camelrooter showed : :, Hero won $11.60You could bet river bigger if you had an idea that he was this tarded. If not It is fine. v1.11Feral Cow PokerHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersCO Arnesto22: $14.95 Button joevideo: $9.75 SB Hero: $10.70 BB alurko_86: $18.95 UTG AndiKon: $4.05 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (5 players)AndiKon folds, Arnesto22 calls $0.10, joevideo raises to $0.20, Hero raises to $1.00, 2 folds, joevideo calls $0.80Flop: ($2.20) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $1.50, joevideo calls $1.50Turn: ($5.20) : (2 players)Hero bets $3.50, joevideo raises to $7.00, Hero raises to $8.20, joevideo calls $0.25River: ($19.70) : (2 players)Hero showed : :, joevideo showed : :, Hero won $18.75nicev1.11Feral Cow PokerHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG ~Migre~74: $13.95 UTG+1 floriluap: $4.20 CO pantam83: $4.40 Button Dim-ko M: $7.05 SB Hero: $13.15 BB A_P0KER_STAR: $0.85 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (6 players)2 folds, pantam83 calls $0.10, Dim-ko M folds, Hero raises to $0.40, A_P0KER_STAR folds, pantam83 calls $0.30Flop: ($0.90) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.60, pantam83 calls $0.60Turn: ($2.10) : (2 players)Hero checks, pantam83 bets $0.40, Hero raises to $1.50, pantam83 calls $1.10River: ($5.10) : (2 players)Hero bets $2.00, pantam83 calls $1.90Hero showed : :, pantam83 showed : :, Hero won $8.50Don't like the turn C/R. We don't need to do it to put his entire stack in the middle, looks much stronger, gives him a chance to check and let an action killing card fall like J or K. v1.11Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 5 playersUTG duiral: $1.85 CO gezAA29: $9.95 Button Dim-ko M: $8.95 SB Hero: $15.70 BB A_P0KER_STAR: $9.40 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (5 players)3 folds, Hero raises to $0.30, A_P0KER_STAR calls $0.20Flop: ($0.60) : : : (2 players)Hero bets $0.40, A_P0KER_STAR calls $0.40Turn: ($1.40) : (2 players)Hero checks, A_P0KER_STAR bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50River: ($2.40) : (2 players)Hero checks, A_P0KER_STAR bets $2.10, Hero raises to $14.50, A_P0KER_STAR foldsHero won $6.30v1.11Feral Cow PokerHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG rickylin1001: $10.25 UTG+1 koenman: $10.95 CO xtilted: $5.55 Button Tunesierin: $2.70 SB Hero: $11.60 BB Balabola: $5.40 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is SB with : : (6 players)3 folds, Tunesierin raises to $0.80, Hero raises to $3.00, Balabola folds, Tunesierin calls $1.90Flop: ($5.50) : : : (2 players)Turn: ($5.50) : (2 players)River: ($5.50) : (2 players)Hero showed : :, Tunesierin showed : :, Hero won $5.25EDIT: making a video would make this much easier.

[droberts 3]

ya i didnt really know that camelrooter was that crazy.. i was just valuebetting half pot for a midpair 55-99.. or a random J that made it to the turn.on the KJ hand i agree that i should have led the turn again.. when i seen the turn i kinda froze cuz i was like oh, i binked da nutz.. and checked... meh!the QQ hand i wasnt too happy with his minraise but i wasnt folding at that point.. if we were both deeper i most likely would have let it go.