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This deserves to get seen by a few more people. From our resident Stupidhead...v1.27Feral Cow Poker Hand ConverterHEM/Poker Stars NL Hold'em $1.00/$2.00 - 6 playersButton: $237.98SB: $200.00BB: $60.00

I remember when this thread was all about how bad KJ was at 3betting

He's probably not flatting KJ's raise otf if he had a2. Besides, A2 is such a small portion of his range here, we are never ever ever ever ever ever ever folding the turn. People are stupid, they do

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Poker is a bitch. You must have been steaming around, oh, hand 21,649. Dropped about $1200 over 1000-ish hands. Yikes. Chin up!
There was definitely some steaming, but a lot that stretch was suckouts and coolers in gigantic pots... like 200+ deep effective stacks and such. I feel like one of them I played poorly though because I stacked off pre with KK 250BB deep to a decent "reg." I should've 4 bet a lot smaller or even flatted the 3bet and played it postflop... i may have still ended up stacking off but I'd have at least widened his stackoff range.
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So... does that boost your roll significantly?
No... we did a $10 LLBut my PS roll is now over $125 and I've never deposited... one stake in a stud tournament and I've run it up, bink
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UTG is 5/0 through 22 hands and BB is a mega-fishThoughts on this line?feral_cow_icon.gifv1.11Dont have a cow, heres your converted handFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG+1 Hero: $10.30 CO Stogram: $15.32 Button chp0k: $10.00 SB ArNoLd_ALliGaTe: $10.21 BB GHetzer1988: $10.40 UTG floatingd: $10.00 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG+1 with :3h: :4h: (6 players)floatingd raises to $0.35, Hero calls $0.35, 3 folds, GHetzer1988 calls $0.25Flop: ($1.10) :ts: :jh: :qh: (3 players)GHetzer1988 checks, floatingd bets $0.60, Hero calls $0.60, GHetzer1988 calls $0.60Turn: ($2.90) :club:: (3 players)GHetzer1988 checks, floatingd checks, Hero bets $1.80, GHetzer1988 calls $1.80, floatingd foldsRiver: ($6.50) :5c: (2 players)GHetzer1988 checks, Hero bets $3.75, GHetzer1988 raises to $7.65, and is all in, Hero calls $3.80, and is all in

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Villain is 16/13/3.0 over 38 hands... thoughts on all streets and river especially.feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG: $8.37 UTG+1: $11.20 CO: $6.98 Button: $15.65 (Hero)SB: $12.84 BB: $10.00 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with Ad.gifAh.gif (6 players)UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB folds, UTG calls $0.30Flop: ($1.30) 3h.gif2h.gifKd.gif (3 players)SB bets $0.60, UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.80, SB calls $1.20Turn: ($4.90) Jd.gif (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50River: ($9.90) Js.gif (2 players)SB bets $1.25, Hero?He's got 6.89 behind and I have him covered...

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Villain is 16/13/3.0 over 38 hands... thoughts on all streets and river especially.feral_cow_icon.gifFeral Cow Poker Hand ConverterFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.05/$0.10 - 6 playersUTG: $8.37 UTG+1: $11.20 CO: $6.98 Button: $15.65 (Hero)SB: $12.84 BB: $10.00 Preflop: ($0.15) Hero is Button with Ad.gifAh.gif (6 players)UTG calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero raises to $0.40, SB calls $0.35, BB folds, UTG calls $0.30Flop: ($1.30) 3h.gif2h.gifKd.gif (3 players)SB bets $0.60, UTG folds, Hero raises to $1.80, SB calls $1.20Turn: ($4.90) Jd.gif (2 players)SB checks, Hero bets $2.50, SB calls $2.50River: ($9.90) Js.gif (2 players)SB bets $1.25, Hero?He's got 6.89 behind and I have him covered...
I don't see any hand betting that small on the river that has you beat unless he's trying to appear weak to get a raise out of you.33,22, and JhKh are all raising the turn, or at least should be. I could see JhQh and Jh10h playing the flop and turn this way, but I would imagine them making a larger river bet.My vote goes to flatting. You're getting ridiculous can't fold odds. You lose the minimum when you're behind, which sucks for him if he does have you beat, because that means he played the hand poorly and didn't get maximum value. In any case, I hope you took lots of notes.
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Easy shove, only hand he really has that beats you is like QJhh/JThh
What hands that we beat are we getting value from?Edit: I guess what I'm getting at here is based on what Trystero said about this being a blocker bet. Usually when someone makes a blocker bet, they're in a bet/fold situation. So if this is a blocker bet, and villain is bet/folding, then there's little to no value in raising.Just my opinion.
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i swear to ****ing god if they don't turn the doom switch off on me I'm going to massacre the whole full tilt staff...feral_cow_icon.gifConverted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $18.75 CO: $71.30 Button: $26.20 SB: $55.87 BB: $64.16 (Hero)UTG: $26.38 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Ac.gifAh.gif (6 players)UTG raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls $0.85, CO calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $4.75, 2 folds, CO calls $4.15, Button foldsFlop: ($17.55) 4d.gif8d.gif3s.gif (3 players)SB bets $16.92, Hero calls $16.92, CO foldsTurn: ($51.39) 9c.gif (2 players)SB bets $20.76, Hero raises to $42.24, and is all in, SB calls $13.19, and is all inRiver: ($119.29) Qs.gif (2 players)SB showed Qc.gifQh.gif, and won ($116.29) with three of a kind, QueensHero showed Ac.gifAh.gif, and lost with a pair of AcesSB won $116.29(Rake: $3)

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TY for the responses on the AA hand, fellas. I called (call me a pussy), and he had KcQc and I should have had his gold. I'm terrible :(Sigh, ninja ace..Also, I'm counting the Million yesterday as 1k hands bc it was a f-in grind... but I'm almost to my goal... and I'm crushing ppls faces...I spewed with AQ vs a reg tho... and I need to not do that...Also, got the $50 bonus from FTP, it's gonna take about 1k hands per $5 so to clear it will take about 10k hands, so I have 20 days to do that and really want to... so make that a goalAND... I AM OUT OF MAKE UP... BINK

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i swear to ****ing god if they don't turn the doom switch off on me I'm going to massacre the whole full tilt staff...feral_cow_icon.gifConverted by the cows of Feral Cow PokerFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em $0.10/$0.25 - 6 playersUTG+1: $18.75 CO: $71.30 Button: $26.20 SB: $55.87 BB: $64.16 (Hero)UTG: $26.38 Preflop: ($0.35) Hero is BB with Ac.gifAh.gif (6 players)UTG raises to $0.85, UTG+1 calls $0.85, CO calls $0.85, Button calls $0.85, SB raises to $5, Hero calls $4.75, 2 folds, CO calls $4.15, Button foldsFlop: ($17.55) 4d.gif8d.gif3s.gif (3 players)SB bets $16.92, Hero calls $16.92, CO foldsTurn: ($51.39) 9c.gif (2 players)SB bets $20.76, Hero raises to $42.24, and is all in, SB calls $13.19, and is all inRiver: ($119.29) Qs.gif (2 players)SB showed Qc.gifQh.gif, and won ($116.29) with three of a kind, QueensHero showed Ac.gifAh.gif, and lost with a pair of AcesSB won $116.29(Rake: $3)
I would never flat from the BB here... I know you're better post-flop than I am, but I still think this is a ez 4bet, especially the image you prob have
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What hands that we beat are we getting value from?Edit: I guess what I'm getting at here is based on what Trystero said about this being a blocker bet. Usually when someone makes a blocker bet, they're in a bet/fold situation. So if this is a blocker bet, and villain is bet/folding, then there's little to no value in raising.Just my opinion.
Thing is this is 10nl where no one can ever really bet/fold.
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I don't see any hand betting that small on the river that has you beat unless he's trying to appear weak to get a raise out of you.33,22, and JhKh are all raising the turn, or at least should be. I could see JhQh and Jh10h playing the flop and turn this way, but I would imagine them making a larger river bet.My vote goes to flatting. You're getting ridiculous can't fold odds. You lose the minimum when you're behind, which sucks for him if he does have you beat, because that means he played the hand poorly and didn't get maximum value. In any case, I hope you took lots of notes.
Jon, ty for the responses. I like what you're getting at. I think the thing to focus on is that when we're beat, we're beat and we shrug it off. But ppl hate to fold, so we're gonna get calls from a lot of Kx and other random crap we beat...Also, trystero, good call about betting more on the turn... ty
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Jon, ty for the responses. I like what you're getting at. I think the thing to focus on is that when we're beat, we're beat and we shrug it off. But ppl hate to fold, so we're gonna get calls from a lot of Kx and other random crap we beat...Also, trystero, good call about betting more on the turn... ty
I see. Thanks.
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Jon this is the caliber of player we're dealing withFull Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Full-Tilt Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.comMP ($3.94)Hero (CO) ($11.72)Button ($8.03)SB ($6.72)BB ($4)UTG ($6.72)Preflop: Hero is CO with 4 :3h, 4 :D2 folds, Hero bets $0.30, Button calls $0.30, 1 fold, BB calls $0.20Flop: ($0.95) 5 :D, 5 :club:, 4 :4h(3 players)BB checks, Hero checks, Button checksTurn: ($0.95) 7 :qh(3 players)BB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 foldRiver: ($1.95) 6 :ts(2 players)BB bets $1.95, Hero raises to $7.80, BB calls $1.25 (All-In)Total pot: $8.35 | Rake: $0.55Results:BB had J :D, Q :5c (one pair, fives).Hero had 4 :jh, 4 :D (full house, fours over fives).Outcome: Hero won $7.80and I'm not complaining, especially in light of TNuts's doomswitch, but boy 10nl is boring as all hell during a downswing

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doomswitch here14 bi downswing n counting. i basically lost two months profit in three days. bad beats led to bad play. sigh i've moved down. was platimum * but thats all over. sigh again.so movin on down for me not up. sigh.

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